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Pochi-Sensei is back!

She said she might do a stream or two before coming back regularly but i don't know if this is one of them or if she's feeling much better and has returned for regular streams. We'll find out soon.
Good to know, I really miss her morning streams, she's usually what I watch before Pikamee streams, but I think I stopped for a bit when she played a ton of Apex lol, and she became inactive, was it mostly due to work?
 

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Good to know, I really miss her morning streams, she's usually what I watch before Pikamee streams, but I think I stopped for a bit when she played a ton of Apex lol, and she became inactive, was it mostly due to work?
I'd heard she'd been unwell and had either shut herself away or moved to a hotel to concentrate on getting better. I suspect like most mangaka she was working too hard, not taking care of herself, feeling guilty all of which led to a burnout. She might also have some underlying conditions which became troublesome but i don't know about that or if it was all stress induced.

She wants to start streaming more often but it will take a while so she may stream once a week for a while before doing more streams. She's going to concentrate on Vol #6 of her series and then see how she feels but she will be streaming, she loves it.

From what i picked up she hasn't streamed for 3 months and she's sorry about that.
She became ill, she said it was a chronic illness and she had no energy for anything, she got treatment, shut herself away from the internet while she recovered. She was working hard illustrating as that is her priority but she REALLY wanted to stream, she called it Streaming Therapy, and she had so many messages of support from people that it really helped keep her going and she's really appreciative of that.

She's sorry she missed her 200k celebration but she won't have a 200k stream because it's been too long and it doesn't feel right to her. She was shocked at how quickly she reached 200k, chat then were saying 300k next month, a million by summer and things like that but she was laughing and saying she doesn't want that, like at all. She was drinking non-alcoholic beer and she seemed REALLY happy to be sharing a beer with chat. When she had to leave, the chat were saying she's non-alcoholic drunk and laughing with her.

I'd say put the stream on in the background, it's a zatsudan stream so there's nothing going on but her chatting and interacting with chat in japanese and english. The first 15 minutes are a joy, you can tell she's happy to be back streaming and chatting with people. There may be more but it was early morning, i was fixing my mods in a game with the stream on in the background so i may have missed something.
 

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Trailer for Millie's version of Phony released at 2am 17th Jan GMT. It's going to be quite a ride i reckon. Go, Millie! lol.
Turn on CC for english but it's disabled so iexpect it to be enabled when the Premiere goes live on the same link later on
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Live now and wow it's full of energy! Love it!
 
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Oh god, i just bought the IRyS CD and 2x HoloX badges from GeekJack and because i'm an idiot i just had a look around at the items in their inventory sale and they have the Usada Pekora Plum Wine. I reall want it but the shipping, holy crap the shipping is as expensive as the already expensive products. I was going to order 2 bottles but hmmmmmm, i'm having second thoughts.


Also Ninisani Nina's Karaoke stream was cursed. Her singing was great but the frame, the frame around the screen man. Cursed.


2am GMT - Pomu just put up a notice that there's a technical issue with Youtube Memberships but they're working on it and they should be back soon.
 
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Pikamee, Rosemi, Ironmouse, GirlDM Mario Party collab.


I'd say put the stream on in the background, it's a zatsudan stream so there's nothing going on but her chatting and interacting with chat in japanese and english. The first 15 minutes are a joy, you can tell she's happy to be back streaming and chatting with people. There may be more but it was early morning, i was fixing my mods in a game with the stream on in the background so i may have missed something.
Yeah I know streaming has been something she really enjoys and to de-stress from work, so sad to hear she wasn't able to the past several months. Hope she feels better and I don't think she should stress herself out about not streaming, since it's more about her health and their audience probably just want her to feel better and have fun with the hobby.
 

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Selen has been absolutely tormenting her Niji friends on these Twitch Apex streams. Bullying Ike, Making Finana cry and selling her tears, and now running Mysta through the wringer lmao.

Twitch Selen is a bully. :fingergunsblob:

Saruei is a french VTuber on Twitch with Youtube clip & VOD channels as usual who streams in english... spot the moment she reads the chat before it hits TTS... lol


Apologies in advance to vietnamese metacouncil.
Subbed to Saruei just the other day lol. Fun streamer.

Also somehow got a gift sub to Kaneko Lumi who seems to be part of a US based Vtuber agency. I didn't know there were any US based agencies.
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#1 Dad streaming LoL. (She said Zen is chats mom) Also she said she might be able to upgrade her PC soon so she can do better streams. (Currently for Apex she has to be a "pngTuber" to save her frames for example.)
 

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"Gift Subs" occur all the time in Twitch. If you're watching the stream and someone decides to donate subs instead of bits then the subs are randomly distributed. Actually, i think the person who donated can specify criteria for gifted subs but i've never bothered looking it up tbh.

There's two sites that i find handy for looking up info on VTuber, usually who their Agency is, Illustrator or Rigger are and if they have any other "family members" who share one or both of them.

virtualyoutuber - fandom site
youtube - fandom site VTuber category

There are a couple of NA agencies and VTubers but they are mainly indie or small scale at the moment.

Tsunderia are in NA and Phase Connect are Canadian.
 

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odd, the mario party collab isn't announced anywhere still, which happens today supposedly if I'm getting the time correctly.

 

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odd, the mario party collab isn't announced anywhere still, which happens today supposedly if I'm getting the time correctly.
5PM PST is 1AM GMT tomorrow 2022/01/18 01:00 GMT so there's plenty of time for Rosemi to get a link up. I assume she's hosting because there's nothing on anyone's Twitch schedule yet and no mention on twitter that i can see.

Pikamee is streaming tonight... first twitch then youtube according to the tweet but the time is wrong for the collab. I wonder if Rosemi has got the date wrong?
 

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5PM PST is 1AM GMT tomorrow 2022/01/18 01:00 GMT so there's plenty of time for Rosemi to get a link up. I assume she's hosting because there's nothing on anyone's Twitch schedule yet and no mention on twitter that i can see.

Pikamee is streaming tonight...
Yea Pika's twitch stream is 2hours later, morning her time, but she and the others didn't say anything so it's what I find odd, she'll need to be up earlier to announce it lol

edit: don't think the collab is happening lol, might be rescheduled probably
 
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My god i love Reine... look at this geek go! If you remember she has had a few keyboard nerd streams and this is the latest. I think Moona is also a mechanical keyboard girl too.




edit: Anteater Yeah, if not one of them has mentioned it on twitter yet and Pikamee is streaming at a different time on a different platform then unless Pikamee is having a massive Pon-Pikamee moment, which i doubt, then i suspect either the date is wrong or something has popped up. It's odd not to get a notification but sometime these don't come until late.

I haven't seen anything yet on VirtualYoutuber or Nijisanji reddit. Who knows what's occurring? We'll find out soon enough.
 
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Suddenly I'm extremely ok with everyone bullying Mysta lol.
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Speaking of Vtubers and Keyboards, yesterday Botan showed her new one...


I immediately went and looked for one of these myself. I love tenkeyless boards. But in America the prices are over $300... And RGB ones are even more. (Not neccesarily an RGB fan but I do like my keys to be backlit since I play and sit in dim light conditions.) 😅
 

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Suddenly I'm extremely ok with everyone bullying Mysta lol.
In PRISM this is known as "Shiki Dew"... but she doesn't use it as a body warmer later on.

Speaking of Vtubers and Keyboards, yesterday Botan showed her new one...
[ Pic of Realforce Keyboard Box ]
I immediately went and looked for one of these myself. I love tenkeyless boards. But in America the prices are over $300... And RGB ones are even more. (Not neccesarily an RGB fan but I do like my keys to be backlit since I play and sit in dim light conditions.) 😅
I think i've posted the links ages ago but yeah, Botan had a keyboard conversation when she was talking about PC Tech. building a new machine etc a few months after debut. She said that she really likes Realforce then and even spoke about which key force/pressure she likes.

I've almost bought Realforce a couple of times.

I've also posted the videos that Roboco has put up showing her "Battlestation", desk and keyboards. She uses/used Duck One Minis and FinalMouse mice, not low-end kit by any means. lol.


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Here's the videos i found after a quick look, for Botan there are a lot of video clips as she talked about building a PC for Lamy, her gaming tastes and FPS weapons, and a bunch of other PC tech things too.

 
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Calli holding a Pokemon Casual Tournament at the end of Jan.


Haachama in a mood because Youtube won't ban/demonetize her for a month.

( I've missed the backstory to this but i suppose she's lost a bet or is going for laughs because Ame and some of the HoloEN girls voluntarily stop Super chats all the time )
 

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Pika talked about her teacher that gave her shit in highschool again:



Seems like she was hospitalized for a day after eating some bad food, she threw up everything so her mom took her to the hospital, and get hooked up to IV since she can't eat. Doctors couldn't figure out the cause, but seems like food poisoning, and not covid or anything.
 
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I've had Enna and Millie's LoL stream (Elira also joined) running in the background for a few hours now.


I have basically 0 knowledge of or interest in LoL, but it's just so funny how often I can go "what the fuck did I just hear" while listening to this stream.
 

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Sad that this stuff even has to be said. But can't say I'm too surprised since Cover Corp. tubers started as and to a degree still behave as "Idols." And that's got a long and documented history of toxicity from fans and management all by itself. And since the Holo Girls are basically the face of Vtubing... it's not too surprising the idol subculture bleeds out all over Vtubing.

Calli is very professional about it here... I really wonder how much she wishes she could just cut loose and tell these people to fuck off though. Honestly, that's one of the things I've found refreshing about exploring other V-Streamers. For example: Veibae will tell people right where to stick it, and idk, it's like "damn girl, good for you!" Cuz they really don't deserve some of the stuff that is flung their way a lot of these streamers...

I do really worry about how much toxicity and stuff gets thrown at the Youtube girls. Most famously there is the case of Hachaama and Kson, but I've seen it also in the start Kronii was getting hit hard with it (her very first member streams covered it and how she was struggling to adjust.) Isn't Fubuki still harassed a lot too? And Kiara gets a lot of hate also... It's worrying. And if you listen to them talk, it really seems like their only support is each other/genmates. 😓
 

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I do really worry about how much toxicity and stuff gets thrown at the Youtube girls. Most famously there is the case of Hachaama and Kson, but I've seen it also in the start Kronii was getting hit hard with it (her very first member streams covered it and how she was struggling to adjust.) Isn't Fubuki still harassed a lot too? And Kiara gets a lot of hate also... It's worrying. And if you listen to them talk, it really seems like their only support is each other/genmates. 😓

Going to need moderators. The chit chats I watched of Calli were really good when I watched back then, sad to see it's come to this, I always get the vibe that some of them want to distant themselves from idol culture on the EN side, but hard when they're really huge. One of the things I love about vtubers is the interactions so I hope the toxicity doesn't bleed into other smaller communities. Even when some people don't have bad intentions, they can overdo it and it could easily snowball down into something toxic especially with new viewers, because internet.
 
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ALL of the VTubers on Youtube and Twitch get hate. They get hate in their Twitter DMs and on Facebook too. Hell, everyone in a vaguely public facing position gets hate. People are dicks and there are lots of people with anger or attachment issues out there or just straight up trolls, edgelords and just people who don't like what you've done or said.
You just get to see very little of it as a viewer.
If i was Calli i wouldn't have said anything, i would just take the money and not read their Supas. Let them work it out while throwing money at you.

I don't know about Fubuki but Aqua, Fubuki and Matsuri have at times invoked the wrath of both billibilli and "idol culture" and basically told them to deal with it or take a hike. I know Fubuki and Matsuri did when people complained about their collabs with male vtubers. They made it clear that if you thought like that then they didn't want you to watch them anymore regardless of how many superchats you sent.

In chat the other day 99% of KFP told Kiara to collab with whoever she wants to and if people don't like it they can fuck off after she asked if it was okay if she did a sponsored stream with a male vtuber. It took me back just how reticent she was about asking but chat's response made me realise that not all supporters are idiots.

It also made me remember how HoloID and especially HoloEN have it much easier than HoloJP on the Idol Culture situation. HoloID made sure to collab with HoloStars early on as if to say "We like looking good and having fun but we're going to collab with male vtubers when we want to so deal with it."

It's not limited to Youtube either VShojo have just recently had a lot of drama and things were learnt on both sides. Also sometimes topics cannot be mentioned as they are part of an active investigation sometimes with law enforcement involvement. So although it seems like nothing is happening we do not know what is going on behind the scenes.

Luckily the communities of the streamers i watch most often seem to be really cool and supportive and even though some of them are young they get the issue of parasocial relationships and how supporting someone is just that and has no obligation on their side or implies any other kind of relationship. They entertain us and we give them money to support them. That's it. Trolls get the boot pretty quickly and regulars who get a little excited or grumpy get a time out or other people in chat tell them to calm down a bit and that works 90% of the time.

These are tiny streams with <200 viewers and about 20 people actively chatting and interacting though.
 
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It's why I hate some new viewers trying to push the "idol" idea onto some smaller streamers (because their exposure were probably from Hololive) when some streamers don't want anything to do with that culture or are better without it.
 
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I think most viewers with "Idol Culture" come from countries/cultures with such ideas already engrained into them or they are some form of weeb who oddly thinks it's a good thing, probably because they haven't understood the downsides of the system and way of thinking or don't care as they are too far gone.
 

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I feel like, at least with the EN Vtubers I mostly watch, the whole "idol" thing is used in a satirical manner at least 95% of the time (when it is mentioned at all). Of the other 5%, 4.9 percentage points are cases where people just want to express appreciation or surprise at the streamer doing some "idol-like" thing, e.g. singing very well. And only the remainder is actually problematic.
 

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Gura, playing Apotheon.


It's Sumi's last day tomorrow. Sadge. At least we've had a fun and creative week of streams with her. Good times, it'll be a sad stream tomorrow but also a fun one to send her off with lots of happy memories i hope.



I'm not sure if there wil be other streams but Non has had this up for a week now. Bless.
 

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Saruei started Bloodborne today which was pretty fun. I've never seen Bloodborne myself, except screenshots and my only Souls experience is DS1. (Which I only consider to be "ok,") It's atmospheric, and has nice consistent style. I know people complain about the Chromatic Aberration also but i kinda like it lol. Now I get why everyone wants this on PC though!!

Watching Selen wheeze her way through RE2. :ROFLMAO:

Kronii is hoping to finish Inscryption tonight. I still can't watch the Inscryption streams myself cuz I wanna play it spoiler free soon. But in other news about our super cool time lord... For members, she asked if we wanted Zatsudan, Karaoke, or Movie watchalong. She took the top two and then polled that so Zatsudan Vs. Karaoke. Than she said she'll do both anyway lol. Blessed Time Lord be spoiling us.

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Rosemi, crusher of can openers, struggled to free Pikl from his jar.
 
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Apparently Iofi has been hyping this event according to pre-chat.
Kiara has just been saying wait until Friday, it must be killing her not to leak or hint info.


Battle with cards linked to the theme!
An important announcement of EXPO & 3rd fes.
The largest offline event and live concert in Hololive Production history !!
March 19-20, 2022,
"hololive SUPER EXPO 2022 Supported By Weiss Schwarz"
at Makuhari Messe International Exhibition Hall 1, 2, 3

"Hololive 3rd fes. Link Your Wish Supported By Weiss Schwarz"
will be held at Makuhari Messe Event Hall!
▼ Special HP (EXPO / 3rd fes. Common TOP) https: //hololivesuperexpo.hololivepro ...
▼ Local & delivery ticket application (Venue & Streaming) https: //hololivesuperexpo.hololivepro ...
 

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Pika made a dedicated account for her twitch VODs:



She said her schedule for Youtube will be 1 day time YT stream during weekdays, and she'll be streaming on Twitch for the other day time streams.

Pika's schedule is usually 1 or 2 streams per day during weekdays, and usually do long youtube streams on weekends, so what this means is probably she'll do mostly twitch streams during the day on weekdays, if she takes a day off she'll probably have 3 twitch streams per week, makes sense.
 

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Cool, i've subbed to the Pikamee VOD Channel.



Strongest Idol's latest MV



Sumi's graduation is still going and it's been an amazing rollercoaster. I saw 400 people top viewcount but her poll for "Rewatch Debut" is at 1,147 votes and we're watching it. She even called out the Lurkers and TONS of people popped up to say "Hi", it was awesome. Really going to miss her, i've downloaded a bunch of her streams in the last week or so in case her channel is taken down soon after graduation. Also pulled out chat logs for a bunch of them too.

We're getting some juicy behind the scenes knowledge from Sumi and Non too as we rewatch Sumi's debut.
edit: 7hr 13 Graduation stream lol. 11.22gb at 720p according to ytarchive. Now to try to grab the chat log.
edit 2: Just checked and it's 1920x1080 not 720p.
 
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If Myth and ID are going to be "Live Onstage" at the event then they'll need a 3D reveal before March 19th and for various countries to lift travel restrictions, i assume? Let's see how it goes.


Kronii's MV Teaser is up

Her single is on Youtube Music


IRyS has voice problems, GWS IRyS!


Mario Party collab last night while i was playing Pina Party with Pina and Chat after Sumi's Graducation stream.
 
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Really interesting that they're going to be part of it but I wonder how.
I do feel bad for IRyS that's she not there. This seems the perfect place for EN's Vsinger....
 

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According to the schedule Ina, Gura & Ame are on Day 1 with Call & Kiara on Day 2.
Hopefully we get more news in February but i'm expecting 2D call -in or pre-recorded shows for the EN & ID girls.
Calli & Kiara have been talking about how much work they have put into dance lessons but again we don't know if that's just a process to get their skills up for the eventual Myth 3D reveal and show or if it's for this specific event or just because they need to anyway.

It's going to be an interesting few weeks while we wait.
 

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Saruei MRE Opening and Tasting. Chilli with Beans!
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Kronii's song is beautiful. (Of course!) 💙

Super excited for karaoke tomorrow.
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I've wracked up a ton of gift subs, just watching Streamers lol. Twitch really is the home of whales haha.



All since Monday...