Community MetaSteam | June 2022 - It's Hot Outside! Sit and Play Some Videogames.

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Dragon1893

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As much as I love P5R it's one of the longest games I've ever played. I don't see myself replaying it anytime soon.
After P4G and P4 Arena it only makes sense to follow up with P4 Dancing.
 

Cacher

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Starfield, Persona 345, Banjo, Silksong all in one show... This is crazier than Sony E3 2016 imo. I seriously doubt it.

Personally just Starfield being good would make me happy. All the remaining are bonus content.
 
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I need P5: Royal on PC. My PS4 broke down when I was almost done with that and starting Horizon. I've rectified the later, I've to rectify the former.
 
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I actually like the dancing games (how can you not with that music) but I get the frustration lol.
For me its just the case of the spinoffs coming to the platform first without the main games on it, but once the main game is there I don't mind how many spinoff of those games they release later . Hell a Persona 5 cooking game would be fine too once P5R is already on PC.
 

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Xbox insiders now
I think leaks should always be treated carefully. Not just that people might lie about things (and that's probably a good chunk of leaks, just people guessing stuff), but even you do have "sources", you might not be told the full story, but only get a few glimpses and interpret them the wrong way. Even if a person knows exactly what they are talking about, the leak might still turn out to be wrong: simply because over time things can change.

Like maybe this collection was a real thing, and Microsoft canned it later because it ran out of time and budget.
 

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Ok i was really enjoying Vampyr then i arrived at Chapter 4 and this is now getting annoying as hell. I am doing pacifist run and no matter that i did almost all side investigations i got up to this point enemies are at least 10 levels above me and even more. And on top of that i get those save citizen missions that i need to do before i go to sleep to upgrade because if i don't do them those citizens will die. And when i go to save them you guessed enemies are 10+ level above me so combat with them drags and i need to try to do it multiple times. And of course that you lose that little resources you managed to find roaming around at respawn (if you use them in combat). And on top of that i have feeling that there are more and more enemies on the map and again you guessed they are all 10+ levels above me (non boss enemies are not hard but they are annoying to fight). And of course that game is not designed to avoid combat and every street you pick to traverse will have at lest 3 enemies if not more. So you can't even move fast from one part of the map to other because you need to stop and fight at every corner.

And it's pissing me off because as i said i was really enjoying the game and i liked story and characters but i am no stuck for hours in Chapter 4 because i need to grin enough XP point so upgrade to be able to fight bosses without being annoyed and having like 20min fights.
Vampyr is a good looking but not very good game and this is one of the reasons why. They let you play as pacifist or violently but both choices have downsides that are substantially worse than the upside. If you play violent then combat is a piece of cake but you will miss a large number of side quests and story telling. If you play pacifist then the mandatory combat becomes horrible because you do fuckall damage and you'll have to keep dodging enemies non stop for ages. So the choices really are that you either miss lots of story and quests or your gameplay becomes horrible. There were other issues with the game as well, including the 4th district being both half baked and superfluous. And the game makes run around the map several times until you are able to unlock shortcuts.

Anyway what I did when I was in your position was to finish as many quests as I could in the very first district and then I just murdered every last person there. From what I recall, you get a substantial power bump from every kill. And I would definitely advise you to increase your power before the final boss.
 
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Ok i was really enjoying Vampyr then i arrived at Chapter 4 and this is now getting annoying as hell. I am doing pacifist run and no matter that i did almost all side investigations i got up to this point enemies are at least 10 levels above me and even more. And on top of that i get those save citizen missions that i need to do before i go to sleep to upgrade because if i don't do them those citizens will die. And when i go to save them you guessed enemies are 10+ level above me so combat with them drags and i need to try to do it multiple times. And of course that you lose that little resources you managed to find roaming around at respawn (if you use them in combat). And on top of that i have feeling that there are more and more enemies on the map and again you guessed they are all 10+ levels above me (non boss enemies are not hard but they are annoying to fight). And of course that game is not designed to avoid combat and every street you pick to traverse will have at lest 3 enemies if not more. So you can't even move fast from one part of the map to other because you need to stop and fight at every corner.

And it's pissing me off because as i said i was really enjoying the game and i liked story and characters but i am no stuck for hours in Chapter 4 because i need to grin enough XP point so upgrade to be able to fight bosses without being annoyed and having like 20min fights.
sounds like I made the right decision having played this on the Story difficulty
 
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While we wait for Persona 5R and Shin Megami Tensei V news on Steam.
 
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Cacher

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I think leaks should always be treated carefully. Not just that people might lie about things (and that's probably a good chunk of leaks, just people guessing stuff), but even you do have "sources", you might not be told the full story, but only get a few glimpses and interpret them the wrong way. Even if a person knows exactly what they are talking about, the leak might still turn out to be wrong: simply because over time things can change.

Like maybe this collection was a real thing, and Microsoft canned it later because it ran out of time and budget.
Yeah, agree. Usually I would believe all the notable leakers have inside information but information can expire. A game can be in active development at one point but may get canned after the info go out. Gears collection probably exist but if it will ever be released? We certainly don't know. Nonetheless, it is fun to read these leaks, but I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over them.

On the other hand, I feel that the Snitch is the real deal. They probably has a very reliable source of information, or even primary information that they can access to.
 
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The snitch may have also been given false info to identify a leaker. Wouldn’t be the first time these companies do this. Persona 3-5 on Xbox is probably the most exciting leak yet, and it’d be hard to resist sharing.
 

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Starfield, Persona 345, Banjo, Silksong all in one show... This is crazier than Sony E3 2016 imo. I seriously doubt it.

Personally just Starfield being good would make me happy. All the remaining are bonus content.
From what I remember That's when they shows Persona 5 would be out in 2017, when they showed Nier Automata and also Nioh? What else did they show?
 
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Vampyr is a good looking but not very good game and this is one of the reasons why. They let you play as pacifist or violently but both choices have downsides that are substantially worse than the upside. If you play violent then combat is a piece of cake but you will miss a large number of side quests and story telling. If you play pacifist then the mandatory combat becomes horrible because you do fuckall damage and you'll have to keep dodging enemies non stop for ages. So the choices really are that you either miss lots of story and quests or your gameplay becomes horrible. There were other issues with the game as well, including the 4th district being both half baked and superfluous. And the game makes run around the map several times until you are able to unlock shortcuts.

Anyway what I did when I was in your position was to finish as many quests as I could in the very first district and then I just murdered every last person there. From what I recall, you get a substantial power bump from every kill. And I would definitely advise you to increase your power before the final boss.
The only thing I enjoyed about Vampyr was the story and the characters. I hated the combat and zone traversal. I did a full pacifist run(I could tell I was never going to replay it as the combat got more and more tedious), and then just used Cheat Engine to brute force my way through the fights. If they ever do a sequel, I would hope they would just make it a fully narrative driven experience.
 
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Panda Pedinte

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Citizen Sleeper will receive free DLC over the next months

Wake up, Sleeper. You have no idea what’s coming.

We’re thrilled to announce that a collection of FREE DLC will be coming to the critically-acclaimed RPG, Citizen Sleeper. The roadmap, revealed today in the PC Gaming Show pre-show, unveils three new episodes launching throughout 2022 and into 2023, deepening the interplanetary society of Erlin’s Eye with more lore, characters and story to explore.

 

PC-tan

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I was able to fix my internet issues.

Turns out it was QoS that was causing the issue.

Basically it auto decides on what to prioritize, which is not bad and I'm guessing that's why it limits the download and upload speeds and I'm guessing that's so that multiple devices get 15mbps. But the issue is that it feels like if even 2 devices tried to connect and download stuff at max speed that it would trip over itself. Maybe this will make this better or even worse since things will now be connected at full speed without restrictions.

Is it possible that what was happening is that because the QoS data base had not been updated since 2017. I think 2017 was when the router came out and because it was a hassle to login in to the router I never really touched it and therefore all of these devices that have come out since 2017 were not really recognized by the system, it shows media streaming devices but not digital assistants like Google Nest Home.


For some reason it seemed to have download speed defined, maybe at one point I ran a speed test and it set that as the default of 15mbps and now all of my devices were fighting to share that download speed and having multiple devices share 15mbps is pretty bad (If it is just 1 device then 15mbps isn't too bad and is doable). Or maybe that number is just letting me know what the current system would give to each device? Which would still not make a lot of sense since it seems like it would actually be slower. There was an option to set my ISP download and upload speed but seeing how the data base is old and how my router is discontinued and no longer has support (it does look like it has open source support though) I'm just going to keep QoS off since a lot of new devices and service have been released since 2017.


I upgraded my modem which is good since the other one I had was over 10 years old ss this point.


I may end up upgrading my wifi router later this year or next year and go for either another Netgear Nighthawk or one of those ASUS gaming router (if I did get one of those I'd like for it to be one of those cool special edition ones.
 

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I understand how some of you are excited and in all honesty I wish I wasn't such a jaded bastard and be excited as well but can we please
SPOT POSTING EVERYTHING IN CAPS AND BOLD ALL THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wait what I can't hear you
 

PC-tan

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I'm mad at myself for not fixing me network sooner.

It looks like on Steam a 6GB download is now just less than 15 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Before that would have taken like maybe 2 hours to download

When the download on Steam started it said something like 12:30, I thought it was saying how it was going to take twelve hours to download and how it was allocating space and how it would gradually decrease and say it would only need 1 hour to download or something. That is just how out of place this felt for me.


Just wow. This is huge for me because I wouldn't download stuff like Open beta and stuff on Steam since it would take me hours!!!!! just to download 20GB and it now looks like I can download 20GB in just 1 hour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have finally joined the rest of America where the average download speed is like 50mbps or so. For those of you in the EU that's just bad stuff the data infrastructure is in the US that 50mbps is the average data speed in the US, while other countries will easily have over 200mbps on average for people from what I remember.
 
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