Community MetaSteam | August 2023 - IT'S MECHA TIME!

[Derrick01]

I genuinely don't think this straw will ever come.

It felt like the 2077 fiasco might've brought about change, but alas...

Now people talk about the game like it was some miracle of game development and how blessed we are to have it around.

You give anything enough time to fix itself and people will eventually forget. Saw it with sea of thieves, saw it with fallout 76. People have the memories of birds.

 

[xinek]

Overwatch 2 plateaued at 40K for now

Think about Blizzard as a company and Overwatch 2 as a game what you want, but In terms of bringing a game over to Steam, this is a pretty good effort. My concerns about account progress were unfounded, too; it was all there. It also automatically added previous achievements. EA & Ubisoft should take notes. No launcher, easy account linking, and youre in.
Unfortunately I got a "couldnt connect to server" error a few times just as it found a game; dunno if this is a Linux-specific thing or not (it runs perfectly otherwise, as before) so I didnt play much. Game-wise, Overwatch 2, for me, still is a downgrade from Original Overwatch and I hate that they completely replaced that game.

I had a lot of fun with Overwatch back in the day. I'm sure I'll still give it a try on Steam, but oh boy, those reviews. This game seems to showcase all the reasons I loathe battlepasses. What a shame.

 

[Jadax]

I've fallen down the FFXIV hole. Actually considering looking for a static to do end-game stuff.

 

[Deku]

I guess it wasn't well received.

Although the players number is impressive

 

[C-Dub]

I don’t know much about Overwatch 2 (nor do I care because live service games are the devil), but surely it’s not that bad?

 

[Madventure]

I guess it wasn't well received.

Although the players number is impressive

Most of the reviews are things like that so lol
But a lot are actually pointing out how it's a bad use of your time and treats your money/time like shit so go play something else that would actually be way better for that value metric

 

[NarohDethan]

I don’t know much about Overwatch 2 (nor do I care because live service games are the devil), but surely it’s not that bad?

It’s a decent enough game, but it has to be one of the most mismanaged games in history. The issue lies in that in OW1 was killed for no good reason, and the battle pass f2p structure makes it feel like you have a second job. If you like filling bars and seeing numbers going up, you’re gonna like it.

As I said, it’s a good game, but I’m afraid it came too late to the party.

 

[Jadax]

OW1 was fun, but was against CSGO which has always been better (even though they aren't really the same thing). OW2 is just a money-grab joke.

 

[Durante]

Now people talk about the game like it was some miracle of game development and how blessed we are to have it around.

You give anything enough time to fix itself and people will eventually forget. Saw it with sea of thieves, saw it with fallout 76. People have the memories of birds.

I still think that 2077 (on PC, which is the only thing I care about) was never really a "fiasco". It didn't fulfill all the expectations people had for it, but it was mostly a well-made game that did many things right.
I said the same thing in the week it was released.

Also, games don't just "fix themselves", someone has to fix them. Many companies never do and their stuff remains broken forever. Others do the bare minimum and then abandon it. Consistently improving a game after release is obviously not as good as shipping with those improvements, but it's also much better than the alternatives and deserves some credit.

 

[Le Pertti]

Even having played 2077 on console, it was still easily my GOTY that year.

 

[fantomena]

I have not touched CP2077 since I finished the campaign 18 dec 2020, I know it has had a ton of updates since then and the expansion will bring even more, so Im curious about it.

I played it on PC, good performance, but I found the game to be good, but nothing else, far from any GotY candidate, too many problems.

 

[Acidote]

My only gripe with CP2077, aside from unmet expectations, was how inconsistent the quality of some quests was. Like you started one of the beefy secondary quests and it was completely "meh" and then you had the ones like "Dream On" which was fucking bonkers how good it was.

 

[dex3108]

My biggest issue with CP2077 was that CDPR was promising a lot of ways to approach quests but in the end they really cut things down. And even options you had were kinda lackluster. I really expect main quests to be more like Deus Ex HR or MD level of freedom of approach but I got Far Cry level of approach.

 

[Li Kao]

I could see them going for a Baldurs Gate 4 right away, which might put any new Divinity game years and years into the future.

I’m not convinced. It is indeed a very real possibility, I’m sure the money was good and Larian likes money, like everybody else. But I’m also convinced that it is one shining example of good management, and I believe Sven isn’t interested in killing his 400 employees by chaining monstrous CRPG devs back to back.
He already said Larian will probably do something smaller scale next. Now would a DOS3 be small scale enough for then, no idea.

It would also makes sense to go back to their own IP to show they are more than ’the people who made BG3’, and to again be able to do their thing without the constraints of a third party ruleset.

 

[Mivey]

I’m not convinced. It is indeed a very real possibility, I’m sure the money was good and Larian likes money, like everybody else. But I’m also convinced that it is one shining example of good management, and I believe Sven isn’t interested in killing his 400 employees by chaining monstrous CRPG devs back to back.
He already said Larian will probably do something smaller scale next. Now would a DOS3 be small scale enough for then, no idea.

That's the thing, D:OS2 was also very much a 200 hour behemoth, if you really went down the completionist route. What is a bit notable is that Larian expanded a lot to make BG3. I think they are like 400 or so people right now? I suppose smaller scale might mean that you don't have them all work on one giant game, but allow them to make multiple smaller games. Basically going the route of Double Fine. Alternatively, maybe the company wants to down-scale and fire a lot of people, but that also does not seem like a Larian way of doing things.

 

[Li Kao]

Yeah, I‘m not Sven but I would think they put a majority of their work force on a ‘smaller’ game, while keeping a core group working on the next big thing.
But indeed, DOS games aren’t exactly small scale.

 

[Jadax]

See that's the issue. They expanded quite a lot, so what happens now? Are they going to split the team and make different games? Are they going to work on the next big game?

 

[lashman]

 

[Durante]

Regarding the Larian discussion: Swen explicitly said in a very recent interview that he doesn't want to do another mammoth project right away.

I could well imagine them working on 2 smaller games (which doesn't necessarily mean "small"). And maybe a BG3 expansion.

 

[Lashley]

Now people talk about the game like it was some miracle of game development and how blessed we are to have it around.

You give anything enough time to fix itself and people will eventually forget. Saw it with sea of thieves, saw it with fallout 76. People have the memories of birds.

Yeah, it's insane tbh. They deserve credit for fixing their mess though, I mean look at EA, 2k, square etc who just abandon their messes.

Granted, I am excited for Phantom Liberty, so I guess I'm no better

I've fallen down the FFXIV hole. Actually considering looking for a static to do end-game stuff.

Best MMO ever

 

[fearthedawn]

In an interview i watched Swen mentioned the desire to downsize/consolidate at least a little with "smaller" projects and specifically the cutscene production ballooning out of control where it sounded like they eventually had a full on movie/tv production workflow with tons of specialists to avoid bottlenecks.

 

[Derrick01]

I still think that 2077 (on PC, which is the only thing I care about) was never really a "fiasco". It didn't fulfill all the expectations people had for it, but it was mostly a well-made game that did many things right.
I said the same thing in the week it was released.

Also, games don't just "fix themselves", someone has to fix them. Many companies never do and their stuff remains broken forever. Others do the bare minimum and then abandon it. Consistently improving a game after release is obviously not as good as shipping with those improvements, but it's also much better than the alternatives and deserves some credit.

It wasn't as buggy on PC but it was still a hollow shell of the game they promised. It was missing features and many of the rpg elements didn't work like some of the things in the skill tree. They promised some sort of insane GTA-New Vegas hybrid and it didn't do anything those games did. It lacked features GTA 3 had at launch (that wasn't a typo, the 20 year old ps2 game) and as for the new vegas style rpg depth I think the only thing that remotely came close to it was that one mission they demoed pre-release where you walk into the gang base and talk with the leader.

 

[lashman]

 

[Durante]

It wasn't as buggy on PC but it was still a hollow shell of the game they promised. It was missing features and many of the rpg elements didn't work like some of the things in the skill tree. They promised some sort of insane GTA-New Vegas hybrid and it didn't do anything those games did. It lacked features GTA 3 had at launch (that wasn't a typo, the 20 year old ps2 game) and as for the new vegas style rpg depth I think the only thing that remotely came close to it was that one mission they demoed pre-release where you walk into the gang base and talk with the leader.

I don't follow marketing closely so I guess I also didn't have sky-high expectations. In general I feel like a game should be judged more for what it is than what it isn't, though of course false advertisement is bad.

In any case, I'll readily admit that surely a major reason I don't mind many of these purported downgrades is because I personally really don't care for GTA-style open world gameplay. I understand that its absence or greatly reduced scope would strongly affect the enjoyment of people who thought they'd be getting that in a Cyberpunk setting.

I do want to say though that while, as someone else mentioned, the quality of the non-mainline missions varied a lot, there was certainly more than one of them which allowed for more than one approach. And personally I though a decent number of them were really quite good.

All that said, I don't want to give the impression that I thought 2077 was the greatest thing ever. It's just a quite decent (and extremely pretty) game in my opinion. But that's not the kind of verdict that really gets people going on the internet

 

[Li Kao]

Regarding the Larian discussion: Swen explicitly said in a very recent interview that he doesn't want to do another mammoth project right away.

I could well imagine them working on 2 smaller games (which doesn't necessarily mean "small"). And maybe a BG3 expansion.

Not sure about the BG3 xpac. Larian keeps repeating that upping the level cap would be a nightmare.

 

[Kyougar]

I said 94 and thought I was optimistic

 

[xinek]

I guess it wasn't well received.

Although the players number is impressive

Yeah, the reviews are a bit unfair because of review bombing. But for those who actually justified their negative review, criticisms are that the battlepass is disrespectful of time (who could have predicted it) and that heroes are locked in the battlepass. Not great, but not necessarily game killers, either. We'll see how hard this game falls off, I guess.

 

[lashman]

 

[Censored]

I know it's on Switch too but play Quake II portable is so awesome.
Main theme is great, so many memories. ^^.
Great remaster, runs and play perfect on Deck.

 

[SaberVS7]

 

[lashman]

 

[Jadax]

Am currently doing a rewatch of Deadwood, and suddenly got in the mood to replay the BioShock series lol.

 

[Li Kao]

I know it's on Switch too but play Quake II portable is so awesome.
Main theme is great, so many memories. ^^.
Great remaster, runs and play perfect on Deck.

I would really like to be able to play FPS on Deck. But alas, my few attempts were pretty bad.

 

[Dinjoralo]

The Quake 2 remaster is such a cool effort. Upping the engines tic rate from 10Hz to 40Hz is a really nice change. Did the first Quake's engine have its internal logic handled at such a low rate, or was that just Quake 2?

 

[Censored]

I would really like to be able to play FPS on Deck. But alas, my few attempts were pretty bad.

I'm quite used to play this way (console legacy xD), the only thing I really miss on Deck which is present by default on Switch version is gyroscope. If I'm not wrong there isn't a gyroscope option or at least I don't see it and it helps a lot to aim.

 

[FunnyJay]

I could well imagine them working on 2 smaller games (which doesn't necessarily mean "small"). And maybe a BG3 expansion.

They should try something weird and different, like the Divinity Dragon Commander game. While not perfect, that game was really something unique.

 

[lashman]

 

[lashman]

 

[crimsonheadGCN]

Despite the negative Steam reviews, Overwatch 2's peak is climbing. 75,000 today. Maybe it'll get really close to 100k by Sunday?

 

[NarohDethan]

Despite the negative Steam reviews, Overwatch 2's peak is climbing. 75,000 today. Maybe it'll get really close to 100k by Sunday?

People like to shit on popular things.

 

[crimsonheadGCN]

People like to shit on popular things.

I know.

I don't even think Overwatch 2 is bad. I liked what I played of it. Liked it even more than the original Overwatch.

 

[Censored]

Corpse Party II: Darkness Distortion announced

IIt will launch in 2024 in Japan. Platforms were not announced.

“Production has been underway on Corpse Party II: Darkness Distortion, an all-new entry and true sequel to the series,” said scenario writer Makoto Kedouin in a message. “In a new setting, new horrors await with a cruel laugh. I hope that it will become a source of encouragement for those faced against the harsh realities of the world. Please, stay safe…! I hope everyone will be able to enjoy the ever-expanding world of Corpse Party.”

車椅子のアヤメさん

あなたにもし、殺したいほど憎んでいる相手がいたらあの子の名前を呼ぶといい。そいつを恐ろしい病院に連れてって、一生退院できなくさせてくれるから。

corpse2.jp

I love this saga, ^^

I hope it gets an anime at some point like the first one.

 

[Arsene]

Despite the negative Steam reviews, Overwatch 2's peak is climbing. 75,000 today. Maybe it'll get really close to 100k by Sunday?

There’s a huge review bomb from Chinese players (rightfully) angry that Blizzard dropped NetEase and closed all their Chinese clients because Acti execs are morons. I’d be pretty pissed if my 6 year old OW account was deleted too. WoW players in China are probably even more angry.

 

[lashman]

WoW players in China are probably even more angry.

can't wait for wow to hit steam

 

[NarohDethan]

can't wait for wow to hit steam

People might get killed if someone loses their WoW account, man.

 

[lashman]

 

[Deku]

Humble Take Your Turn Bundle

 

[Acidote]

Titan Quest 2 just got announced, I'm so hyped, please don't be moneyhatted.

 

[fantomena]

THQN hasn't really cared for EGS, Deep Silver and Coffee Stain has had/still has some timed exclusives on EGS, but THQN is weird, some titles is not on EGS and those that are, are not advertised for EGS.

 

[Stevey]

Playable preview up until the 28th