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spindoctor

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Indiana Jones is shaping up to be my favorite game in a long time. They coming immersive sim elements with treasure hunting and IP i love so what is there not to like :D. Cherry on top would be involvement of Arkane to help with level design (their influence on level design in Youngblood was rare positive thing for that game).
Are you referring to this gameplay video?


I don't see any immersive sim elements here at all. In fact, this looks like a very weak showcase of the game. From what I gather, you spend a majority of your time solving puzzles which look like the Tomb Raider/Uncharted games (yes, I know the inspiration goes the other way). My problem with that sort of gameplay is that the puzzles are not always very good. They either have to be too easy or they're too 'video-gamey' or you have a sidekick who will tell you the solution within a minute of you encountering the puzzle. And then the rest of it seems like your regular stealth game with whip combat that looks quite terrible honestly.

My first reaction after watching this video was thank god for gamepass. I have very little faith in this studio anyway after they released 2 duds in a row but this game seems to be pulling them away from what they're good at. I'm still hoping the game turns out good because it would be really nice to have a great Indy game but this video inspires nearly zero confidence in me.

OW 1.0 will be interesting. I never played the original, I first got the game for free (came with a prebuilt PC I installed) around the time Brigitte came out, which is right when a lot of people starting hating on the game because of GOATS. I had my fill of fun, but I really did not enjoy what OW2 did to the game. I unistalled like IDK a year ago or more and have not felt like reinstalling. I'm sure if I check out OW 1.0 it will be weird as fuck.
Overwatch was at it's peak when the developers understood that they had made a casual shooter. Goofy characters, colorful maps and silly abilities to play with. At launch everyone was having fun without really caring that much about the outcome of matches. At times it even felt like a puzzle game when you tried various characters and combos to figure out how to deal with your opponent team that had, for example, 6 Lucios who were speeding around, healing each other and endlessly booping you off the map. Then Blizzard decided that they wanted it to be a competitive game. The first change they made was to limit one character per team and that was ok because it got rid of all the ridiculous scenarios like the one I just described. But that wasn't enough... they wanted it to be an esports game and so they started balancing it to be one. It seems silly to argue against a game being balanced but they really ripped out so much of the fun while doing it. They didn't just tweak characters, they reworked them completely. Sometimes multiple times, as in the case of Brigitte. All the balancing was done with an eye on the Overwatch pro league and the telemetry being generated from people who min-max everything. Two roles per team was the next hit. Everyone became a slave to the meta and the game became stale because of it. If you wanted to play Symmetra for fun, your 5 team mates would be angry at you for throwing the game. Then came role queuing which meant that not only could you not switch to any character you wanted to, but now you were limiting yourself to playing only one-third of the entire roster any time you entered the match. All of this was done in service of the Overwatch League which was a failure from day one but they kept dragging it's corpse along for about 5 years before finally admitting the truth and killing it off.

Anyway I tried the new classic event mode and I was in a match where there were 3 Mercys on each team endlessly healing and reviving anyone who died which led to a comically long engagement at the payload. Everyone was just being silly and it was fun but everyone also knows this is just a temporary thing and then they'll all go back to the sterilized, joyless meta in 3 weeks.

EDIT: This post feels like I'm just dumping on Overwatch but that's not really my intent. Just my opinion of how Blizzard's handling of the game made it worse. There's still a lot of fun to be had because the core gameplay systems still interact with each other in a fun way. I just dearly wish that they had let it remain a casual game. Valve did that for Team Fortress 2. TF2 was an incredible game with a massive audience and Valve are masters at nurturing esports games but they designed it to be a casual game and they stuck with that vision. I really wish Blizzard had done the same. I found a video of me playing OW2 last year that is just the lowest skill nonsense you will ever see but I remember laughing my ass off while this was happening. This is the kind of silliness I miss in Overwatch.
 
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Alextended

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Horse control is shit in RDR2..going through SP. I tried with controller...KBM..then controller not even connected. Why..when brushed and fed it rotates in circles...or pushing left makes it go right and into circles?
 

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Initial reviews for DQIII HD-2D, 85:
My account is ready. What a year for JRPGs. And next year is looking to be just as good too
 

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Overwatch was at it's peak when the developers understood that they had made a casual shooter. Goofy characters, colorful maps and silly abilities to play with. At launch everyone was having fun without really caring that much about the outcome of matches. At times it even felt like a puzzle game when you tried various characters and combos to figure out how to deal with your opponent team that had, for example, 6 Lucios who were speeding around, healing each other and endlessly booping you off the map. Then Blizzard decided that they wanted it to be a competitive game. The first change they made was to limit one character per team and that was ok because it got rid of all the ridiculous scenarios like the one I just described. But that wasn't enough... they wanted it to be an esports game and so they started balancing it to be one. It seems silly to argue against a game being balanced but they really ripped out so much of the fun while doing it. They didn't just tweak characters, they reworked them completely. Sometimes multiple times, as in the case of Brigitte. All the balancing was done with an eye on the Overwatch pro league and the telemetry being generated from people who min-max everything. Two roles per team was the next hit. Everyone became a slave to the meta and the game became stale because of it. If you wanted to play Symmetra for fun, your 5 team mates would be angry at you for throwing the game. Then came role queuing which meant that not only could you not switch to any character you wanted to, but now you were limiting yourself to playing only one-third of the entire roster any time you entered the match. All of this was done in service of the Overwatch League which was a failure from day one but they kept dragging it's corpse along for about 5 years before finally admitting the truth and killing it off.

Anyway I tried the new classic event mode and I was in a match where there were 3 Mercys on each team endlessly healing and reviving anyone who died which led to a comically long engagement at the payload. Everyone was just being silly and it was fun but everyone also knows this is just a temporary thing and then they'll all go back to the sterilized, joyless meta in 3 weeks.

EDIT: This post feels like I'm just dumping on Overwatch but that's not really my intent. Just my opinion of how Blizzard's handling of the game made it worse. There's still a lot of fun to be had because the core gameplay systems still interact with each other in a fun way. I just dearly wish that they had let it remain a casual game. Valve did that for Team Fortress 2. TF2 was an incredible game with a massive audience and Valve are masters at nurturing esports games but they designed it to be a casual game and they stuck with that vision. I really wish Blizzard had done the same. I found a video of me playing OW2 last year that is just the lowest skill nonsense you will ever see but I remember laughing my ass off while this was happening. This is the kind of silliness I miss in Overwatch.
you're absolutely spot-on with this assessment... thats why I really only ever played Mystery Heroes, which was always a ton of fun, and casual to the core...at least in 6v6, as I may have said several times, I could never warm to 5v5 and stopped playing Overwatch after the change.

I am not really suprised about it all because their handling of WOW was very similar.




speaking of WOW, Blizzards "Warcraft 30th Anniversary Direct" live stream is in a bit

 
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Overwatch Classic might as well be Blizz throwing up their hands in the air and admit they have no idea what to do next lol
I'd play it for sure like I did hearthstone classic for a bit until they took that away. Current HS is not fun.
 
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Alextended

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They should have WC & II free without the new bells and whistles like they did StarCraft remaster. Hell, 3 too but if they offered a genuine version of the oldie then nobody would buy the remaster. WoW is getting player houses too, that took a while huh, I've not checked in since ~2008 but I'd think it has that, guess not.

Industria 2's shaping up awesome, gonna have the play the original I guess, kinda just didn't bother seeing it as cool but throwaway, as it was apparently short.
 
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They should have WC & II free without the new bells and whistles like they did StarCraft remaster. Hell, 3 too but if they offered a genuine version of the oldie then nobody would buy the remaster. WoW is getting player houses too, that took a while huh, I've not checked in since ~2008 but I'd think it has that, guess not.
They dont have player housing, no. They introduced garrisons a couple years ago, which was kinda like housing, you had your own base you could level up and costumize a bit; but that was it.

the original versions Warcraft I & II are at least available to purchase — Warcraft I & II Bundle — unlike Warcraft III ... its something ;)
 
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T-Pain and Mark Zuckerberg did a collab on a song...

We're truly in the simulation that's been falling apart.

Maybe they are getting the song ready for the remake of NFSU.

One you beat the game the Lil Jon song gets replaced with this version.

Also T-Pain is pretty cool. I remember that one clip of him talking about Overwatch and liking the game and streaming it but other made fun of him for it or something like that.

Ubisoft had that one R6S event and invited him and some other person (I can't remember) but they were playing the game with teams that Ubisoft had made and the other dude didn't know how to play R6S and was treating it like playing CoD and was doing even killing his teammates by accident as well)
 

Paul

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Industria 2's shaping up awesome, gonna have the play the original I guess, kinda just didn't bother seeing it as cool but throwaway, as it was apparently short.
I played it in december and it is pretty good. Short but at least does not overstay its welcome, good gameplay and atmosphere. I am very very excited about the sequel.
 
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Ascheroth

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not available in canada ;-;
It's Girl's Frontline 2. The publishing for the global version is weird and some countries get the version on Steam published by Haoplay, while others get the one that's self-published by Sunborn/MICA.
 

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Overwatch Classic might as well be Blizz throwing up their hands in the air and admit they have no idea what to do next lol
Feels like a nostalgia play to bring lapsed players back to the game like Fortnite is doing.
Of course the actual rebalance testing they’re doing outside of this event feels like Blizzard admitting they have no idea what they’re doing.
 
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Cacher

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Just want to post some Girls' Frontline 2 CBT screenshots. :coffee-blob: 1440p but did not max out everything because the fans were spinning hard already.




not available in canada ;-;
Yeah game is region-locked on steam. You will be able to download the PC client on homepage when it launches. As Ascheroth said there are two publishers so you can choose between them.
 
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I figured I'd add up to that: within the games included in Tetris Forever, there is a new game called Tetris Time Warp. And within this, you can access the 1989 marathon, which is basically the GameBoy version. I uploaded a short clip here:


ignore my shoddy play ;)
OMG legally distinct Gameboy. That's very interesting.
 
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Kvik

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Weird, probably a mail client issue but a weird one.
It's weird how it's attaching a text document that has nothing to do with your purchases. There's a technique that spammers use to fudge the sender envelope so the "From:" address looks like a legit sender, but the originating email server is not Valve's. But these emails will be normally get picked up by Gmail's anti-spam.

Maybe open a ticket on Steam Support? Couldn't hurt.
 

Le Pertti

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Do they work correctly in the gmail browser client?
It's weird how it's attaching a text document that has nothing to do with your purchases. There's a technique that spammers use to fudge the sender envelope so the "From:" address looks like a legit sender, but the originating email server is not Valve's. But these emails will be normally get picked up by Gmail's anti-spam.

Maybe open a ticket on Steam Support? Couldn't hurt.
I so rarely use gmail in the browser that I forget that even was possible, there the mail looks normal! So it is probably just the email client that blocks the content. Maybe I have a security setting too strict somewhere.,
 

Cacher

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Is this gonna be good for people that never played GF (tfw)
Yes. the game should be good even to a newcomer. The opening chapters introduce the world bit by bit. I reached the point where references to the first game and old faces starts to appear more but they don't hinder enjoyment. I also haven't yet finished catching up to GFL1 story myself (really freaking long) but I can understand everything in 2. There are also lore records and archives to read outside the main story but they stay optional so far.

Gameplay-wise it's completely different from GFL1. Combat is simplified Xcom and easy to understand. Stages are very easy in early chapters but knowing the developer they will definitely add some nasty stages soon. Graphics are really nice and highly detailed. There's a refitting room where you can examine the sweet texture on each doll, and there's also coomer stuff (the dormitory). Gacha is abysmal though because both characters and weapons are in the same pool. Meanwhile, CN players have done the calculations for number of free rolls available each month, and the game seems to be pretty generous in the genre.

The CBT has been receiving good impressions from most people as far as I observed (among EN and JP players). They need to iron out some translations and text bug but the game should be able to launch very soon. Feel free to visit the OT for useful resources like doll intro and basic lore.

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Gameplay trailer
 
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