Community MetaSteam | June 2019 - Microsoft does what Epican't

[texhnolyze]

That devs gets free money from Epic?

Good guy EGS.

 

[Arsene]

Good guy EGS.

Saving PC gaming by funding ambitious
devs that really need the cash! Like uh.. Take Two and um Ubisoft and erm THQ nordic.....

 

[Ge0force]

I'll be definitely using GamePass for Exodus, Outer Worlds, Phoenix Point and other Epic (not-so-)exclusives.

Is there any information about how Ms pays devs or publishers when their games hit game pass? Are they being paid for each download our hour played, or are they getting a fixed amount of money each month?

I want to make sure that Deep Silver and the Phoenix Point devs don't get a single cent from me. F*ck them.

 

[kio]

Between the EGS deals and the Gamepass deals, do these games really need to sell any copy to be profitable?

 

[Arsene]

Between the EGS deals and the Gamepass deals, do these games really need to sell any copy to be profitable?

No. In fact if your game doesnt sell a single copy Epic will pay you extra. So technically by waiting for the Steam release we’re helping developers more by making them eligible for a free additional paycheck from Epic.

 

[Rosenkrantz]

I imagine that Phil is sitting in his expensive leather chair, drinks 50 years old scotch, throwing darts into Sweeney's photo while Lose Yourself is playing in the background.

Goodbye EGS, you didn't know what's going to kill you.

 

[Copons]

I've just realized I'll be on a train to London (for the Bikini Kill show tonight!! ) during the EGSGamer show so I'll miss it altogether.
SAD.

 

[Ge0force]

Gears 5 is €70 in the Windows Store. Really curious what the price on Steam will be. AAA games are usually between €49.99 and €59.99 here in Europe.

 

[derExperte]

 

[Arsene]

I was bummed seeing Annapurna but glad to see its planned for Steam.

Hopefully it stays that way because this looks super cool.

 

[fantomena]

Not sure how many knows, but FFVII Remake is releasing march 3rd 2020. Only on PS4 so far.

 

[Eferis]

Maybe that exclusivity deal Epic made with Annapurna is only for 2019? 12 minutes releases next year.

 

[Dandy]

I like this timeline where MS is the good guy.

I'll be definitely using GamePass for Exodus, Outer Worlds, Phoenix Point and other Epic (not-so-)exclusives.

As much as I want Outer Worlds as part of my Steam collection, I'll just sub to game pass for it so I can play on launch. Same with Afterparty.

 

[ZKenir]

I just hope the Bamco stuff isn’t EGS locked for a year, I am mostly interested in their games and Cyberpunk.

 

[Arsene]

I just hope the Bamco stuff isn’t EGS locked for a year, I am mostly interested in their games and Cyberpunk.

Tales of Arise is confirmed for Steam. Ni No Kuni will definitely be Steam too. Elden Ring has a generic PC logo listed though. Hopefully thats not exclusive.

 

[lashman]

Good lord... Not to sound like a broken record, but Cyberpunk and Doom Eternal and Destiny 2 having shit regional pricing is just taking the piss.

I've given up on reasonable regional pricing from big publishers a long time ago.

No more day 1 AAA for me, except Cyberpunk perhaps. I wouldn't be able to resist Cyberpunk.

Was just about to type the same thing about Doom including the sounding like a broken record part....

I mean, over here (Brazil) we are actually paying more than the US, $64.20... That's not how regional pricing is supposed to work

yeah ... pretty much all big publishers have already given up on regional pricing ... and it's only been getting worse and worse with each release ... right now at least 2 or 3 of them don't go below 40-50% lower prices in the poorest region (while volvo's recommendations are at around 74-78% lower for those regions), so .... yeah ....

Yeah. I'm wondering if the "store-wars" have actually given publishers the leeway to run a "Steam tax". They're now so confident that consumers would rather pay more for Steam versions, even in countries where low-salary can make US prices exorbitant, that they don't care about the lost-sales from overpricing. Which is directly contradictory to the lessons that Valve taught publishers years ago - lower the cost in poorer regions to negate piracy and get more sales. But perhaps the PC gaming market is now large enough that that lesson is no longer relevant, outside of, say, Russia and China.

that's capitalism for ya ... they always need to make more and more money, because earning the same amount you did the previous year is considered a failure ... so they have to squeeze more and more

yes ... wishlist it and wait 12 months for the egsclusivity to end

I just hope the Bamco stuff isn’t EGS locked for a year, I am mostly interested in their games and Cyberpunk.

it's not ... all Bamco games are coming to steam day one

 

[Arsene]

it's not ... all Bamco games are coming to steam day one

Do you have a source on elden ring? Seems like it’d be a hot target for Epic

 

[ZKenir]

Tales of Arise is confirmed for Steam. Ni No Kuni will definitely be Steam too. Elden Ring has a generic PC logo listed though. Hopefully thats not exclusive.

Iirc tales of arise has a generic pc logo as well but Iashy-kun is saying it’ll be on steam... if he’s just toying with my pure heart I’ll drown this forum in animu gifs!

 

[lashman]

Do you have a source on elden ring? Seems like it’d be a hot target for Epic

nothing i can link, but i do

 

[Arsene]

Iirc tales of arise has a generic pc logo as well but Iashy-kun is saying it’ll be on steam... if he’s just toying with my pure heart I’ll drown this forum in animu gifs!

Right under the release date on the Japanese website.

Tales of ARISE テイルズ オブ アライズ ｜ バンダイナムコエンターテインメント公式サイト

テイルズ オブ アライズ　公式サイト 新たな時代を生きる、すべての人に贈るRPG 2021年 9月9日発売 『テイルズ オブ』シリーズ最新作の公式サイトです。

toarise.tales-ch.jp

nothing i can link, but i do

Guess ill have to take your word for it. Dont let me down man

 

[prudis]

trailer

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new Ninja Theory game
https://www.xbox.com/games/bleeding-edge

Take team combat to the Bleeding Edge.

 

[lashman]

Guess ill have to take your word for it. Dont let me down man

i'll try

 

[Deleted member 113]

Steam still checks the files of the games they host (for virus, trojans, ...), right?

There's a Chinese game that just launched that is an obviously bootleg/unauthorized title based on the Double Dragon series.


Since I'm a sucker for beat'em ups, and since this is cheap, I'm tempted to buy this unauthorized fan game (to add to the other Double Dragon games I already own on Steam) before the game is certainly removed.

 

[ZKenir]

Right under the release date on the Japanese website.

Tales of ARISE テイルズ オブ アライズ ｜ バンダイナムコエンターテインメント公式サイト

テイルズ オブ アライズ　公式サイト 新たな時代を生きる、すべての人に贈るRPG 2021年 9月9日発売 『テイルズ オブ』シリーズ最新作の公式サイトです。

toarise.tales-ch.jp

Nice, I was wondering because of this

Hope Tim won’t sweep in at the last minute for both this and Elden Ring

 

[Arsene]

Nice, I was wondering because of this

Hope Tim won’t sweep in at the last minute for both this and Elden Ring

Tim doesnt want anyone to suspect him of being a weeb dont worry.

 

[texhnolyze]

No Japanese games have been announced as EGS exclusive (yet?), so I wouldn't worry about them. They're all coming to Steam.

 

[lashman]

No Japanese games have been announced as EGS exclusive (yet?), so I wouldn't worry about them. They're all coming to Steam.

apparently KH3 will be egsclusive

but, like i said, all Bamco games are definitely coming to steam

 

[Arsene]

apparently KH3 will be egsclusive

but, like i said, all Bamco games are definitely coming to steam

Considering how much the KH team jacked off Epic at GDC im expecting it and FFVII to go egs. Good thing im too impatient and I preordered it on ps4 in 2013!

 

[ZKenir]

apparently KH3 will be egsclusive

A shame I was looking forward to it coming to pc.
Kinda expected SE to be the first to do this.

 

[texhnolyze]

apparently KH3 will be egsclusive

but, like i said, all Bamco games are definitely coming to steam

If I have to predict the first big Japanese publisher that'll submit to EGS, it's SE. They definitely have no honor.

 

[lashman]

Considering how much the KH team jacked off Epic at GDC im expecting it and FFVII to go egs.

yup

Kinda expected SE to be the first to do this.

yup

If I have to predict the first big Japanese publisher that'll submit to EGS, it's SE. They definitely have no honor.

also yup

 

[prudis]

niiice

trailer:

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+ some devolver weirdness:

Coming to PlayStation 4 and PC in 2020!

Fall Guys: Ultimate Knockout flings hordes of contestants together online in a mad dash through round after round of escalating chaos until one victor remains! Battle bizarre obstacles, shove through unruly competitors, and overcome the unbending laws of physics to avoid both humiliation and elimination. Leave your dignity at the door and prepare for hilarious failure in your quest for the crown!

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Devolver Bootleg contains eight original rip-offs of Devolver Digital games including:

Enter The Gun Dungeon
Imagine a dungeon crawler but instead of swords it’s guns. But also everything is made out of guns and bullets and stuff. Like, everything.

Hotline Milwaukee
Brutal, fast-paced, stealth action and a whole lot of blood. From your garbage person apartment in historically interesting and relevant Milwaukee, pick up the phone, and answer the call--of murder. Follow instructions and follow the stairs deeper and deeper into the mysterious basement. Where does it go? Who are you?

Ape Out Jr.
Escape out of ape prison in this classic arcade-style platformer where you play as an orange gorilla who will kill everyone so he can to see his dad again. Grab unsuspecting guards to use as weapons and shields in this completely original idea set to an interpretive chiptune jazz drummer soundtrack. Please, Ape Out was my father’s name.

Shootyboots
It’s the never-ending story of a young boy falling down a well, wearing a giant boot as if it was overalls, which also is a gun. Collect gems, squash and shoot the fauna, fall deeper into the infinite well, and wear some other equally large and ballistically designed shoes.

Super Absolver Mini: Turbo Fighting Championship (2 Players Only)
A competitive fighting game where you play as your choice of one of four masked combat disciples. You choose two special moves. You fight two rounds. The winner is absolved of the obligation to ever have to fight again, but probably will anyway because the one true resolve of the flesh is a fist colliding with it.

Catsylvania
It’s a cat inside of a suit of armor. It’s a cat...In full plate armor. What else do you want?

PikuBiku Ball Stars (2 Players Only)
Everybody’s favorite red thing with legs is back and ready to sink some baskets with a friend. Nothing but net baby. Slam freakin’ dunk.

Luftrousers
Hello, I am Rami Ismail, ½ of Dutch independent game development studio, Vlambeer. We made a version of Luftrausers that had a typo, and JW left the thumbdrive containing the source at a coffee shop somewhere while I was doing a talk in Berlin, then Nairobi, then in Los Angeles the following day. If you find the thumbdrive, can you please return it and please PLEASE do not share the contents with anyone or add it to a compilation of pirated, under-the-table ripoffs of games that Devolver has published.
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new free DLC for Messenger

Tropic like it’s hot; critically acclaimed retro platformer The Messenger gets a free expansion on July 11, 2019!

 

[Li Kao]

Eh, don't even try to make sense of things anymore.
So I checked my microsoft store games and I somehow have Outer Wilds. Never fucking bought it. Buttttt when I double checked, I possess it on "surface hub" and it will seemingly only play on Xbox. Nothing to see, my usual luck.
Not that I care really, but it was a nice gift for the little time I thought I possessed it.

Anybody can explain this nonsense ? A mixpot gift maybe ?

 

[Deleted member 113]

Eh, don't even try to make sense of things anymore.
So I checked my microsoft store games and I somehow have Outer Wilds. Never fucking bought it. Buttttt when I double checked, I possess it on "surface hub" and it will seemingly only play on Xbox. Nothing to see, my usual luck.
Not that I care really, but it was a nice gift for the little time I thought I possessed it.

Anybody can explain this nonsense ? A mixpot gift maybe ?

I don't understand a lot about how those Mixer giveaways work (I never used it, so I'm pretty much clueless), but when Outer Wilds was announced as an EGS exclusive, I saw plenty of people mentioning "that game from the MS Mixer giveaway", or asking if they were still getting it for free, so that's probably where you got your free copy.

 

[Ge0force]

That's a surprise! I expected all future Annapurna games to be EGS exclusive.

Edit: it seems all of Annapurna’s timed exclusives have Steam pages. So probably still EGS exclusive for a year.

A shame I was looking forward to it coming to pc.
Kinda expected SE to be the first to do this.

Seems they've learned nothing from the RotTR exclusivity deal

 

[Milena]

So Arkane is now developing a weird multiplayer game? The cinematic trailer looked good, but I have no clue on how you're supposed to play it.
But if I'm being honest, there's almost no chance that I'll ever really play it, so...

 

[Stone Ocean]

I haven't played most KH games so until The Story So Far hits Steam Epic can keep KH3.

 

[RionaaM]

I haven't played most KH games so until The Story So Far hits Steam Epic can keep KH3.

I have played the first few worlds of KH1 and didn't like it (Tarzan's was a candidate for worst level of all time), so if the PC port dies a horrible death I won't shed a single tear

 

[Ascheroth]

I haven't played most KH games so until The Story So Far hits Steam Epic can keep KH3.

Same.

 

[texhnolyze]

I've played all 3 mainline Kingdom Hearts games, and probably a couple of spin-off/side games. Never finished any of them. I played for 5 hours at most I believe, which was KH3 earlier this year. The franchise simply never clicks with me.

 

[crimsonheadGCN]

I can't believe there is a Blair Witch game coming out. I hope this means that the franchise will continue to expand and another movie is announced. I like the sequel from a couple years ago.

And I never played a game in the KH series. Like FF, I was never interested in the series.

 

[Ge0force]

I have played the first few worlds of KH1 and didn't like it

Same. I've borrowed the ps4 version of KH3 and I didn't like it either. My daughter enjoyed watching me play tho

 

[Echoes]

nothing i can link, but i do

 

[Parsnip]

Are these kind of emails new? I don't think I've gotten one before. Specifically the part that "you played a game by this dev before so maybe you are interested in this too."

 

[beep boop]

I think the Blair Witch franchise and Supermassive Games could be a really good fit thematically. A tinge of goofiness between the horror, like the original movie.

 

[Hektor]

I played through all Kingdom Hearts games multiple times, you haters succ.

Man, this secret ending from KH2 was the hypest shit back then to me

 

[Ascheroth]

I love the shit out of Kingdom Hearts, but not enough to sell my soul to egs.

 

[EdwardTivrusky]

Bought, played and finished KH3 and none of the other games and i enjoyed it.
SE & EGS can do one though... reminds me of my Gummiship & Teeny Ships image i posted when i finished the game!

 

[Stone Ocean]

All I can say is that at the very least I'm looking forward to what kind of demented regional pricing a Square game will have on the EGS.

My bets are on KH3 being the most expensive game on the entire store.

 

[Echoes]

It will be interesting to see the aftermath of Square Enix siding with EGS, they have earned a totally deserved bad reputation in the last few years. In the end I think it can further damage their image rather than provide a much needed turnaround.