They're so good that they don't actually want any publishers to know that they too can knock together a half assed webstore client and take 100% of all sales revenue
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They certainly are showing numbers to publishers when doing deals. Ubisoft or 2k aren't going in blind. They just don't want to show numbers to us. Is it good or bad? I don't know, I'd like to interpret it as a bad sign, but publishers being silent about sale numbers is not uncommon.
There's really no reason to think Bl3 would fail just because of Epic.
yeah, pretty much ... it would've done well on pretty much anything ... even if they had their own launcher
if anything - i'd say it did well despite epic
Mor on your EGS Google Sheet, Hello Neighbor is marked as "Unknown" under exclusivity length, But Hello Neighbor's EGS store page says "PC Exclusive on Epic Games store through December 2019". Didn't know if you were aware of that.
I think its the only store page to outright list its exclusivity length lol
I think its the only store page to outright list its exclusivity length lol
Metro Exodus, The Outer Worlds, Borderlands 3, Control, The Sinking City (I guess, its $60 at least) and probably Batman.
Borderlands 3 was always going to sell like hot cakes, but given that the specific stat 2K gave was sell-in, that very much could include the guaranteed sales copies from Epic.
This was the storm we had to weather, it was already tracking to be the best selling game of the year based on pre-orders and it seems to have fulfilled that. We’re gonna be stuck in this EGS quagmire for some time, it all depends how long and which deals Tim’s gonna blow money on next.
This was the storm we had to weather, it was already tracking to be the best selling game of the year based on pre-orders and it seems to have fulfilled that. We’re gonna be stuck in this EGS quagmire for some time, it all depends how long and which deals Tim’s gonna blow money on next.
It is always sad when good things happen to assholes and the only thing we can do is not help the said assholes have success.
But i guess "MuH gaEMz" > principles.
But i guess "MuH gaEMz" > principles.
So with all the rumors of RDR2 and it now getting classified I figured I'd re-link this
As far as Red Dead2 goes hopefully this still rings true and it just means that they'll release on say... everywhere
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It's from awhile ago but it's before the revamped social club, even then when it was just Steam/Social club for GTA 5 the way they steered people towards that was they kept steam super expensive (Even on sale) 50$~ while the Social Club GTA 5 was 40-35$ or lower for the longest time.
I sort of imagine they just want shitloads of money. So the more places selling it the more money.
As far as Red Dead2 goes hopefully this still rings true and it just means that they'll release on say... everywhere
Take-Two says the Epic Store is 'a good thing,' but exclusives sound very unlikely
CEO Strauss Zelnick isn't interested in launching a Take-Two store, or "indicating to the consumer where they need to be."
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It's from awhile ago but it's before the revamped social club, even then when it was just Steam/Social club for GTA 5 the way they steered people towards that was they kept steam super expensive (Even on sale) 50$~ while the Social Club GTA 5 was 40-35$ or lower for the longest time.
I sort of imagine they just want shitloads of money. So the more places selling it the more money.
Sure Borderlands 3 was going to sell no matter what... but at least I was hoping it would crash and burn. And I'm saying this as someone who loved all borderlands games!
If you ask me, red dead 2 will be on epic and the rockstar thing. If a pub/Dev wants to release his IP on his own store, I don't blame them.
I'm also not angry because something is available on the EGS, in addition to other sources. That's okay too.
I'm boycotting third party exclusivity.
I'm also not angry because something is available on the EGS, in addition to other sources. That's okay too.
I'm boycotting third party exclusivity.
I got GTA 5 during the waning days of the Russia Bear IIRC...if not before :V
Hadn't started it yet :V
So Yeah I'ma get rdr2 when it is...$20 or less on Steam
My rig COULD run the game atm, but I have a 2014~2015 era set up and would much prefer to be able to play it while having a stronger rig :V
Anyways, here is my contribution to EGS for the day
"A game sold well on EGS you say?"
Hadn't started it yet :V
So Yeah I'ma get rdr2 when it is...$20 or less on Steam
My rig COULD run the game atm, but I have a 2014~2015 era set up and would much prefer to be able to play it while having a stronger rig :V
Anyways, here is my contribution to EGS for the day
"A game sold well on EGS you say?"
I really dont think a late port would be a good candidate for exclusivity.
GTA VI tho...
And it is quite funny to see the ‘but the dev cut!’ Arguments. As if T2 isnt already swimming in money.
GTA VI tho...
And it is quite funny to see the ‘but the dev cut!’ Arguments. As if T2 isnt already swimming in money.
they also said they're not interested in exclusivity ... and then like a week later made all their Private Division games egsclusive
... will also be a late port
that's how rockstar operates ... it worked for them once (with V) so now they're gonna do it every single time to squeeze as much money out of people as possible
It worked great with GTA V.
I bought the PS3 version, then I bought the PS4 version because I wanted to own the definitive edition of the game. And then I bought the real definitive edition of the game on PC.
But to quote an old saying: Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
I've waited this time around and if it's not EGS exclusive, I'll buy it. Once.
I'm pretty confident that read dead 2 pc numbers will be great, but I also hope that way fewer people double dipped this time around.
And I also hope that this strategy won't work in the future and that we'll get simultaneous releases.
Some of my thoughts, re:Borderlands 3. Game is a literal beta right now.
...Actually, the Epic Launcher is basically the one part of the game that actually worked. Direct game invites from within Discord was pretty nice, too.
That's an interesting argument...that one should wait to buy the game from elsewhere since Epic is going to eat any "additional" sales until the game meets a certain threshold. Brilliant!
People congratulating Epic because people are buying moneyhatted games on their store are completely out of their minds imo.
"Wow, you took every other option away and now people are using your store, well done!"
I mean, come on...
"Wow, you took every other option away and now people are using your store, well done!"
I mean, come on...
That will show Steam and the other dozens of games released just today!
I never understood the people who thought it was a great for gaming when EA gaining exclusive rights to the NFL for Madden, effectively killing NFL2K.
I don't understand this, either.
Yeah, finally we have healthy competition on pc!
They dont. People just love to be contrarian even if it bites them in the ass later.
Hey, isn't the content creation cut by Valve 30%? Or is this something different?
Nah this is for "influencers" you know twitch and youtube people they stream the game and try to convince people to buy it. The person buys it with their "sponsored" link and they get 20% commission which Epic is covering the cost for for at least 12 months.
I got to say this doesn't say "healthy" sales to me if you are having to up the amount you are willing to pay to streamers for selling your shit.
So they extended this shit. This just tells me that all the "Borderlands 3 sold gangbusters on EGS" was the moneyhat used as metric on 2Ks news blog.
I was informed that Sony and Acti are making business decisions to compete by making timed exclusive modes for the new CoD.
For the people that don't like this they have to understand that this is just another mode and stop crying.
Obviously.
For the people that don't like this they have to understand that this is just another mode and stop crying.
Obviously.
They have the right to do it.
Deals like these allow Acti to minimise the risk of new modes. We will end up with better CoD games in the long run because of this.
Deals like these allow Acti to minimise the risk of new modes. We will end up with better CoD games in the long run because of this.
Yup. If your game is super successful on your platform then you don't need to pay out of your own pocket (again) to push it. This is an indication that the game's sales are not as great as advertised on EGS, despite Randy's spin.
I wish 2K posted more concrete numbers after a month or two, fastest selling game in 5-days window ain't telling me shit if the sales will drop like a rock after a week or two. No doubt it was a success (which most of us expected) but I wonder how it would've performed if it was released on Steam?
I would bet good money that every game's sales on EGS have dropped like a rock after the launch window. Steam gives long tails to games because people have it running all the time and interact with it all the time, I doubt that people have EGS permanently running on their PC.
Edit: Just to be clear, I am referring to people who actually buy PC games, not people playing Fortnite.
Or,maybe, sale numbers are good and epic is pushing that hard to minimise steam numbers as much as possible. Whoever they persuade to buy the game now won't be buying it in 6 months.
Please do not forget. The question was never if games can sell on the EGS. The real question is: how many potential sales are you missing out on.
Please do not forget. The question was never if games can sell on the EGS. The real question is: how many potential sales are you missing out on.
someone somewhere must've ... otherwise we wouldn't be thinking it was going to
So elsewhere they report on the Borderlands 3 stuff without the 5-day period qualification as if it's their best selling LTD ever already, lol. So I replied with this:
Highest selling for the first 5 days past the launch, yet it's being recycled without the clarification by the usual EGS fanboys (like implying it already surpassed the lifetime sales of all their other PC games). Not that it matters, nobody said an AAA game with an AAA marketing campaign won't sell because of the choice of store, there are other issues at play (plenty of the issues were experienced by Borderlands 3 players, it just didn't affect the marketing hype and therefor sales). Equating the success of any Borderlands 3 (with no knowledge of its potential success had it not been exclusive anyway) with somehow nulifying every other non-AAA related argument against EGS is just a straw man argument and, again, something only fanboys do. Corporate apologists are weird, lol.
Highest selling for the first 5 days past the launch, yet it's being recycled without the clarification by the usual EGS fanboys (like implying it already surpassed the lifetime sales of all their other PC games). Not that it matters, nobody said an AAA game with an AAA marketing campaign won't sell because of the choice of store, there are other issues at play (plenty of the issues were experienced by Borderlands 3 players, it just didn't affect the marketing hype and therefor sales). Equating the success of any Borderlands 3 (with no knowledge of its potential success had it not been exclusive anyway) with somehow nulifying every other non-AAA related argument against EGS is just a straw man argument and, again, something only fanboys do. Corporate apologists are weird, lol.
Boycotts work, when they actually happen on a large scale. 100 people online saying they won't buy the game doesn't equal an organized boycott, obviously. People don't generally call their decision to not buy stuff without said organized large scale a boycott, that only happens online I guess, lol.
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It's probably cheaper than traditional marketing -- buying ad space, etc.
This makes me think not enough streamers are streaming BL3. I'm sure Epic wants them charting higher.
Numbers fell off the cliff not long after launch. 20% > 12%, getting further and further away from profitability!
Oh what the fuck, I really wanted to play Afterparty. When did they announce that exclusive?
Is it possible to download the Denuvo-less version of Arkham Knight from EGS, swap the .exe with the Steam one, and get better performance on the Steam version that way?
Is it possible to download the Denuvo-less version of Arkham Knight from EGS, swap the .exe with the Steam one, and get better performance on the Steam version that way?
around E3, i believe (but we already suspected it to be one waaaaay before that)
i believe so
They went from Top 10 launch week to fluctuating around Top 15-20 this week on Twitch.
Considering all the effort Gearbox put into the streaming tools for BL3, I'd say that can't be exactly what they wanted. They sold their loot drop shit as a big deal.