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[Gengis Khan]

Yeah that place that "shall not be named" has become so twisted and bizarre now. I am kinda glad I got my 1 week ban because I ended up here and have never been happier to find a moderate home that actually cares about PC gaming rather than a forum where how much you smell a developers farts and like them consitutes how "woke" you are.[

It becomes really insufferable when you start to notice that a lot of the people in charge (or their protected ones) are often the most poisonous of the bunch.

Right now, I also got a completely delusional reply from the "former moderator" Bronson Lee claiming I was "trying to gaslight him about his previous donations to charities", followed by a stoic "Don't talk to me again" (like if I wanted to).
Jesus Christ, WHAT THE HELL he's even blabbing about? Why he's trying to play this pathetic victim angle and bring in something completely unrelated?
I was just poking fun at the guy for hiding behind is faux wishy-washy attitude and use every possible excuse to take Epic's side (in this case buying a game he was criticizing once it would release on the EGS).

As for the latest development with the Darq developers. I had been umming and ahhing about buying the game. It really isn't my cup of tea and right now all my gaming time is taken up with gta 5 and no mans sky so even if I bought it I would probably never play it. Then the developer really showed his balls and I just had to buy it. So chalk up another purchase of Darq may even play it one day

That's exactly the position I'm in at the moment. To be honest I don't really care about this game. It definitely doesn't look like it could be my cup of tea... But the dev is playing his hand so well he's tempting me to support him just out of sympathy.

 

[Swenhir]

Penny Arcade on a roll:

Oof.

The DARQ dev is fucking with Timmy on levels I could never dream of.

This is amazing on so many levels. I think the one that makes me laugh the most is how little of a financial risk he is taking here.

 

[NarohDethan]

The guy just turned Tim’s tactics on himself (‘just lower your cut , Valve. Dont you care about devs?’)

 

[Knurek]

Posted this innocuous jab on Era.

Got a "warning", that few minutes later turned into a 24h ban, which few more minutes later somehow turned into a two-weeks ban. Because it was clearly a serious infraction... I guess?

I regret nothing.
What a bunch of hypocrites.

It's a month now, lol.
You are such a horrible person. (\s)

 

[AHA-Lambda]

The DARQ dev is fucking with Timmy on levels I could never dream of.

Omg this man is a god damn hero
Right I'm buying a copy, I salute you sir

 

[Tizoc]

Omg this man is a god damn hero
Right I'm buying a copy, I salute you sir

Incidentally enough

 

[Gengis Khan]

It's a month now, lol.
You are such a horrible person. (\s)

Man, it's going at a steady pace.
I wonder where I will be by tomorrow.

 

[Ruvon]

The DARQ dev is fucking with Timmy on levels I could never dream of.

The DARQ side of Epic.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

Epic Games Store
"It's complicated"

 

[ISee]

The DARQ dev is fucking with Timmy on levels I could never dream of.

That's brilliant on so many levels.

 

[Doctor Ironic]

Unfold fuckin' owns, lmao. This is already a win but personally I hope the charity they wind up donating to is Game Workers Unite, which would work to tear apart the kinds of working conditions you see at Epic Games itself.

As for the other forum... filed for my account deletion a few weeks ago. Fed them some bullshit about wanting to get outside more. Joke's on you, nerds! I'll stare at a screen till I die!

 

[ISee]

Great idea with game workers unite.
If Tim was clever he'd accept the proposition and match the donations 1:1.

But he won't accept it.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

 

[bobnowhere]

As for the latest development with the Darq developers. I had been umming and ahhing about buying the game. It really isn't my cup of tea and right now all my gaming time is taken up with gta 5 and no mans sky so even if I bought it I would probably never play it. Then the developer really showed his balls and I just had to buy it. So chalk up another purchase of Darq may even play it one day

It is my cup of tea, I love me a puzzle-platformer, it's probably my favourite genre. It's beautifully made and full of imagination but it's expensive for what it is, short and the puzzles are pretty easy. Find item, put item in correct place etc... There are also some bugs involving controllers, might already be fixed. There is a free DLC coming to hopefully flesh it out a bit.

 

[Ge0force]

Right now, I also got a completely delusional reply from the "former moderator" Bronson Lee claiming I was "trying to gaslight him about his previous donations to charities", followed by a stoic "Don't talk to me again" (like if I wanted to).

Bronson Lee is an idiot imo. Of course he didn't deserve the harassment that happened to him a while ago, but your comment was spot-on. Oh well, more time for you to spend on MC.

 

[C-Dub]

Great idea with game workers unite.
If Tim was clever he'd accept the proposition and match the donations 1:1.

But he won't accept it.

This is literally an out for both of them to get some positive PR from this unpleasantness, but Sweeney would rather platform war than do that.

 

[Rosenkrantz]

Posted this innocuous jab on Era.

Got a "warning", that few minutes later turned into a 24h ban, which few more minutes later somehow turned into a two-weeks ban. Because it was clearly a serious infraction... I guess?

I regret nothing.
What a bunch of hypocrites.

Uh, there're a bunch of people roaming EGS threads who constantly insult and antagonize anti-EGS crowd lumping us with alt-right trolls, nazis and misogynists who don't get as much as a slap on a wrist and you've been punished for that shit? Come on!

I don't know Bronson Lee all that well, most of you guys know him since GAF days, to me he is just a dude with a funny avatar, while he didn't deserve harassment, I find it funny that he considers himself completely innocent in this situation, the mod team could've deescalated the situation from the begining, they chose not to and now we have what we have. Simple as that.

 

[Eferis]

Posted this innocuous jab on Era.

Got a "warning", that few minutes later turned into a 24h ban, which few more minutes later somehow turned into a two-weeks ban. Because it was clearly a serious infraction... I guess?

I regret nothing.
What a bunch of hypocrites.

Very petty but I lolled hard.

Edit: For the post, not the warning or ban.

I don't know Bronson Lee all that well, most of you guys know him since GAF days, to me he is just a dude with a funny avatar, while he didn't deserve harassment, I find it funny that he considers himself completely innocent in this situation, the mod team could've deescalated the situation from the begining, they chose not to and know we have what we have. Simple as that.

I don't know him well but from what I gathered he's just another person who feels so morally superior to anyone else on planet earth and it looks like he really enjoys to stir the "look how despicable GAMERS(tm) are" pot quite too often. Just another person on the Internet though so nothing to get worked up over really.

 

[fantomena]

The Darq dev got some balls to stick up to a corporate billionaire.

Good job!

 

[Eferis]

I mean it's clearly a PR stunt but Tim should be happy about it, right? Didn't he say that his only goal was to give poor indie games some visibility?

 

[Kuro]

Install Failed when trying to install CONTROL on EGS

 

[Eferis]

Install Failed when trying to install CONTROL on EGS

Too bad, it's over. Only one thing left to do now: ask for refund and delete account.

 

[Kuro]

Too bad, it's over. Only one thing left to do now: ask for refund and delete account.

Just started working, here we go - RTX ON!

 

[lashman]

The Darq dev got some balls to stick up to a corporate billionaire.

Good job!

 

[Spamlynguist]

The DARQ dev is fucking with Timmy on levels I could never dream of.

 

[Tizoc]

Darq dev should just end it at there and not engage any further with egs.
Imo.

 

[Kyougar]

Posted this innocuous jab on Era.

Got a "warning", that few minutes later turned into a 24h ban, which few more minutes later somehow turned into a two-weeks ban. Because it was clearly a serious infraction... I guess?

I regret nothing.
What a bunch of hypocrites.

I didn't want to bring it up a few days ago because of other place drama, but I rolled my eyes really hard at a thread closure on Era and how it really shows their views.

Thread:

Digital store Fanatical is excited about Sony porting PC games, is thinking about games like Spiderman(PS4) being ported on PC

I saw right now a facebook post from digital store Fanatical with a picture of Spiderman, mentioning possible pc ports of Sony exclusive.This is just speculation from them, but theylisted ps4 games they could imagine coming on PC, including Spiderman, God of War, the Last of US II, Horizon Zero...

www.resetera.com

Mod closure text:

There's no need to make a thread on a PC store page making a wishlist of console exclusive games they'd like to have. This can be discussed elsewhere.

Yes, the thread was nonsensical, but the wording says it all.

 

[Gengis Khan]

I don't know Bronson Lee all that well, most of you guys know him since GAF days, to me he is just a dude with a funny avatar, while he didn't deserve harassment, I find it funny that he considers himself completely innocent in this situation, the mod team could've deescalated the situation from the begining, they chose not to and now we have what we have. Simple as that.

I really don't want to drag this topic too much, but I personally find the guy incredibly disingenuous.
Admittedly I didn't even notice him until his "mod days", But then I noticed that he started deliberately antagonizing and baiting into bans PC users in every Epic thread.
He then proceeded at every given chance to praise Epic, start threads lauding some recently confirmed Epic exclusive (i,e. "Hades is an amazing game!"), to start (or heavily contribute to) threads about Valve's real or alleged shortcomings, etc etc.

More recently, he started his "call for action" against the toxicity around the topic, which once again felt incredibly disingenuous from his mouth.
And that's where his (frankly dubious) claims of "harassment" came into play, paired with questionable attempts to lump together critics of the EGS and shitlords sending death threats to people.

 

[Nyarlathotep]

tbh I don't even know why you guys even bother posting there after a fucking admin shut down the steam community thread because "steam isn't a platform". I don't know how much more obvious a message that a forum is not for you can be.

 

[Knurek]

Not an Onion tweet:

 

[lashman]

Kyougar Gengis Khan can we please not turn this into a "let's complain about other forums" thread? please ..

 

[NarohDethan]

If you have buddies over there I would suggest to invite them here. Discourse has been poisoned and people are just baiting bans and lurking threads just to report people (month long ban for a little jab? Give me a break). The less we talk about other forums the better IMO. Just bring your people here

 

[Cordelia]

Not an Onion tweet:

Because EGS doesn't have any metric to show off to people

 

[ISee]

Remedy Entertainment CEO and Chairman Sell Stocks Prior to Control’s Release, Fall in Stock Price

Remedy Entertainment's CEO Tero Virtala and chairman Markus Mäki have sold company shares just days before the developer's next major game release – Control. Both of the company bosses sold their…

nichegamer.com

In short:

CEO Tero Virtala, chairman Markis Mäki and a third unknown person have sold part of their Remedy stock in total value of 2.2 million euros. That happend about one week before Control launched on consoles and the EGS. Respawn's shares were on its highest point in the company's history, because of a promising financial report.

Wouldn't it be wiser to sell your own shares after a mayor, successful product was released? (Serious question, I have no idea about the stock market)

Of course it makes sense to me to sell before the launch, if preorders aren't good. But that would be illegal insider trading, wouldn't it? The CEO selling his own shares because something is going south... before the public learns about it.

 

[NarohDethan]

Unless you already know who Remedy is, I dont see how anyone can be interested in Control.

Especially when you search ‘Control’ on gaming shops and you get actual game controllers

 

[ISee]

Unless you already know who Remedy is

They aren't Nobodys.
Max Payne 1 and 2, Alan Wake, Quantum Break are well known and beloved titles, even classics to a degree (except for Quantum Break).
I was looking forward to Control, until the inevitable greed happened.

 

[NarohDethan]

They aren't Nobodys.
Max Payne 1 and 2, Alan Wake, Quantum Break are well known and beloved titles, even classics to a degree (except for Quantum Break).
I was looking forward to Control, until the inevitable greed happened.

I know, but at least for me my interest on the game stems from the fact that Remedy is behind it, because gameplay wise it doesnt look that special.

 

[Ge0force]

Darq dev should just end it at there and not engage any further with egs.
Imo.

I don't know... He shouldn't turn this into a media circus of course, but his blog post and tweet go straight against Epic's narrative that they are doing all of this "for the developers in need". Which is something the media and EGS defenders are constantly using to justify Epic's actions.

 

[Doctor Ironic]

Control looks really interesting and I have always loved Remedy, but let’s be honest, sales-wise their games have never been powerhouses and Control looks to be no exception. In fact, the the CEO and chairman, of all people, dumping a ton of stock makes me very concerned about the company’s future. (Isn’t that illegal, anyways? Does that not count as insider trading?)

I’ll definitely pick up Control when it hits Steam. But until then... well, I hope the payout helps you survive.

 

[Chudah]

Control looks really interesting and I have always loved Remedy, but let’s be honest, sales-wise their games have never been powerhouses and Control looks to be no exception. In fact, the the CEO and chairman, of all people, dumping a ton of stock makes me very concerned about the company’s future. (Isn’t that illegal, anyways? Does that not count as insider trading?)

I’ll definitely pick up Control when it hits Steam. But until then... well, I hope the payout helps you survive.

I would not be surprised if Remedy's CEO and chairman were the recipients of a majority of Epic's moneybag...

 

[Phoenix RISING]

Oof.



This is amazing on so many levels. I think the one that makes me laugh the most is how little of a financial risk he is taking here.

I suppose going to Steam instead of EGS with a successful game has impacted his finances 0.

The guy just turned Tim’s tactics on himself (‘just lower your cut , Valve. Dont you care about devs?’)

Yeah, this dev is not only making EGS look foolish but greedy developers looking for that extra 20%, too.

Brilliant.

 

[Cordelia]

Especially when you search ‘Control’ on gaming shops and you get actual game controllers

This. I can't find any Control RTX key reseller on my local e-commerce because of this. It doesn't even available either physically or digitally for PS4 here. So my only choice if I want to play Control is EGS which is a big no.

 

[Phoenix RISING]

I think Valve is just playing a long game, which will be vindicated when Hades makes Supergiant more money on Steam than EGS.

Remember that, regardless of what third parties do, Valve has to maintain a relationship with them. While it'd be great karma if there was a tit for tat, and it's frustrating to see Valve just doing nothing, it's actually in Valve's best interests that the EGS exclusives sell better on Steam, because it weakens Epic's stance that developers can make games exclusive to EGS without Epic throwing around cash for exclusives. That, unfortunately, does require them to maintain good relationships with developers. If Valve start tightening the rules, it's a tacit admission that Epic's scheme is working and weaken's their stance.

But as it stands, no one is going to go EGS exclusive without serious risk mitigation by Epic. And Epic is hoping that it pays off in the long run and they no longer need to mitigate developers' risk, and they just go to Epic by default for the 88/12 split.

If developers still make more money on Steam than they would going EGS exclusive without the moneyhat, Valve's 20-30% cut is vindicated. That means Epic will need to accept games will have to be on both stores, which then opens the door to them getting their ass whipped on multi-store games.

Yes, this is what I was saying next week.

I cannot wait for Hades to come out on Steam. It will be the first legit litmus test.

But the Borderlands 3 fans might not care, and we'll go backwards since they won't wait six months.

 

[Flips]

via discord (it's about Control):

Can't. Make. This. Shit. Up.

 

[Phoenix RISING]

Yeah that place that "shall not be named" has become so twisted and bizarre now. I am kinda glad I got my 1 week ban because I ended up here and have never been happier to find a moderate home that actually cares about PC gaming rather than a forum where how much you smell a developers farts and like them consitutes how "woke" you are.

As for the latest development with the Darq developers. I had been umming and ahhing about buying the game. It really isn't my cup of tea and right now all my gaming time is taken up with gta 5 and no mans sky so even if I bought it I would probably never play it. Then the developer really showed his balls and I just had to buy it. So chalk up another purchase of Darq may even play it one day

It becomes really insufferable when you start to notice that a lot of the people in charge (or their protected ones) are often the most poisonous of the bunch.

Right now, I also got a completely delusional reply from the "former moderator" Bronson Lee claiming I was "trying to gaslight him about his previous donations to charities", followed by a stoic "Don't talk to me again" (like if I wanted to).
Jesus Christ, WHAT THE HELL he's even blabbing about? Why he's trying to play this pathetic victim angle and bring in something completely unrelated?
I was just poking fun at the guy for hiding behind is faux wishy-washy attitude and use every possible excuse to take Epic's side (in this case buying a game he was criticizing once it would release on the EGS).



That's exactly the position I'm in at the moment. To be honest I don't really care about this game. It definitely doesn't look like it could be my cup of tea... But the dev is playing his hand so well he's tempting me to support him just out of sympathy.

VOTE
WITH
YOUR
DOLLARS

or whatever your currency is

 

[Ascheroth]

via discord:

[...}

Can't. Make. This. Shit. Up.

I thought Epic has keyless redemption with Hamble now.

 

[Doctor Ironic]

I would not be surprised if Remedy's CEO and chairman were the recipients of a majority of Epic's moneybag...

Oh for sure. You have to remember that studios like Motion Twin are the very rare exception, and there is no way this money gets evenly distributed throughout the company - and this is ESPECIALLY true when an EGSclusive already has a publisher. (The only exception here is Glumberland, who ditched their publisher and then immediately took an EGS deal. Hmmmmm.)

 

[MJunioR]

I thought Epic has keyless redemption with Hamble now.

it's gameless too

 

[Phoenix RISING]

Darq dev should just end it at there and not engage any further with egs.
Imo.

Tim would do well to have a PR team tell him to have a seat. But egomaniacs these days LOVE the attention that money + social media brings.

Look at who he's responding to: A BURNER ACCOUNT.





Man with that kind of money ain't hip to the game, but the Darq dev apparently is.


Darq Dev be like:

 

[lashman]