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I like how Igg games is turning into my actual Epic Store.
Just downloaded Falcon Age from there. Works great with my Rift.
Just downloaded Falcon Age from there. Works great with my Rift.
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oh boy ... volvo's gonna get SO dragged for this in the articles ...
Do you pirate "only" games available from the Epic store? In my opinon this is not ok. You could just wait for the Steam release of Falcon Age or any other exclusive from the Epic store.
EDIT: There are also myriads other and better games on Steam, GOG, etc.
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I can already see Nathan and Jason flexing their fingers.
Oh good, they finally did what I said they should do and prevent devs from using Steam for advertising.
That's a wonderful change. No more Epic trying to snipe the most wishlisted games and devs trying to abuse Steam for EGS marketing. Now they'll need to either commit to a Steam release, or be lucky enough for Epic to notice them before they get all the marketing and wishlists done on Steam.
i'm sure that's how they'll present it in the upcoming articles
"Valve's new agreement made it so struggling indie devs can't have opportunity to get a much better cut"?
Does anyone have the previous wording?
This does make it sound like you can no longer use Steam for marketing and then going epic cash. And if you were previously exclusive, you can only put a store page up a month before release at the earliest, do I read this correctly?
Is this also the same for previous console games or does it apply only to PC competitors? (I guess it applies to all platforms).
This does make it sound like you can no longer use Steam for marketing and then going epic cash. And if you were previously exclusive, you can only put a store page up a month before release at the earliest, do I read this correctly?
Is this also the same for previous console games or does it apply only to PC competitors? (I guess it applies to all platforms).
The question is, will Valve really terminate contracts with devs/pubs when they breach the agreement? Another question is, will Epic now open it store sooner for all devs/pubs or will they just throw more money at more devs/pubs?
that is correct, yes
yeah, i imagine it applies to everything that's going to be on steam ... basically - if you're already out somewhere else and put up a page on steam, you have 30 days to release it
well it's not retroactive ... so it's probably going to take a while before it happens
almost definitely the latter
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Good. No more creating Steam pages for free EG$-clusivse marketing.
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It's a good change that addresses the bullshit game Epic has been playing at. I wouldn't play ourselves or Valve as a martyr before the articles come out though.
All in all, very good news for anyone who cares about putting a dent into exclusivity tactics on PC or at least the dishonest practices of the people who seek them.
Great change by Valve, surprised it took them this long to make it.
Steam Begins Unfairly Limiting the Ability of Indie Devs to Advertise on the Platform While Negotiating Exclusivity Deals Elsewhere
by A. Hack (PCGamer)
In a sign that Epic has further shook up people at Steam HQ, Valve will no longer allow developers to advertise on the platform with no intention to release there. One indie developer was quoted as saying, "How else will Tim notice me unless I get my wishlists up?"...
by A. Hack (PCGamer)
In a sign that Epic has further shook up people at Steam HQ, Valve will no longer allow developers to advertise on the platform with no intention to release there. One indie developer was quoted as saying, "How else will Tim notice me unless I get my wishlists up?"...
The text in the screenshot is correct, it's easy to double check yourself.
Which is why I wanted to know what it said previously, but that information seems to be harder to get :/
apparently been there for a while ... volvo haven't changed the agreement since the new split (so like 2 months before Metro)
Yeah shouldn't Hades have to come out within 30 days since they put up a store page? Or maybe it doesn't apply to EA titles?
i think volvo just don't care and choose not to enforce it
No.
I pirate games to check if they are worthy to either be on or still be on my wishlist. I never play a game for more than a few min to know.
Last pirated game to check if it was goodf was Warhammer Mechanicus. Which I bought.
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It totally does.
Like I keep saying, I really don't understand Valve's passivity in all of this.
They quickly, and "merciless" banned games and developers from the Store, because, for example, a developer posted a review for his own game. A single review. That, for Valve, was reason for termination, no matter if the developer deleted that review, and assumed his error. They would be gone from the store, and banned from submitting new games. With no appeal.
Now, you have developers creating game pages, with no intention of launching (at least for a year) on Steam, that just use the pages to promote the game (some using release dates to "spam" the upcoming releases tab), and directly/indirectly a competing store, and even have the nerve to use the forums for support/bug reporting. Not to mention, some even use Steam for beta testing.
I would say this later situation is much more annoying for Steam users than a single "fake" review.
Yet, Valve is happy to continue moving along, and ignoring this problem.
They should probably start enforcing this rule. Maybe they are just giving a one year grace period of sorts before the hammer starts coming down on this sort of thing.
But the principle is sound: a game absolutely must not be advertised on Steam if it's going to release somewhere else sooner as part of an exclusivity deal. Why should Valve give these guys airtime and free promotion and let them use Steam to peacock themselves to another store?
But the principle is sound: a game absolutely must not be advertised on Steam if it's going to release somewhere else sooner as part of an exclusivity deal. Why should Valve give these guys airtime and free promotion and let them use Steam to peacock themselves to another store?
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I think the way it's worded it's like, regardless of having a Steam page and release date or not, they need to get on Steam day and date as elsewhere.
But they probably don't mean exactly this. A dev could join Steam after he has his game on any other platform, like itch.io, I doubt Valve would even care to go back to check when the game was released elsewhere to tell this dev, oh man, it wasn't day and date as on itch.io so you can't publish it here at all! Bye!
Lol.
So they probably just mean a game has to release day and date as elsewhere after it has actually been submitted to Steam with page and release date.
And if it's already elsewhere by the time it does get a page, then it has to release on Steam within 30 days.
No 2022 Steam release date game pages when the game's coming out this year on another platform.
So games will either release day and date everywhere they want plus Steam as was usual pre-Epic, or they will release elsewhere first, but only get allowed to have a Steam page and release date 30 days before being able to go live on Steam.
And past that content and patches need to be day and date. That probably excludes DLC with its own page as for that the same rules would apply again.
Something like that.
We don't know the penalty for failing this either. Maybe it's as simple as getting the store page hidden/deleted until the 30 days from Steam release are on. Or how they'll enforce it. I do hope they do something for all the games that show as released but have neither content nor a price or anything. They clutter up the new releases page and it's annoying when I want to browse actually released stuff. Though not having a price is common for them so you can scroll past easily enough, it definitely hurts visibility of the actually released stuff, not everyone's as dedicated in checking the pages as me.
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True.
Also Tim Sweeney: "go to reddit for game talk of EGS games"
Isn't it possible to report games that goes against that? Sure might be petty but at least it puts it in front of Valves eyes.
Ah yes. Another classic from Sergey "Don't Quote Me On That" Galyonkin. Aged like a fine wine.
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so whether or not this is new (apparently it's not?), what's the actual enforcement mechanism or penalty for breaking the agreement? Does the agreement stipulate one?
Apparently, none, but I am not a lawyer.
Valve could terminate the agreement "for Cause", and the store page would be offline.
However, It is not a big deal, because:
- the "Company" could submit a new page for another $100,
- the agreement could be terminated "for Convenience" anyway after 1 year. So, it is not like breaching the contract gives any super-power to Valve.
The risk for Valve is that the dev might take offence and not create another page. This would result in a larger loss for Valve, because 30% cut of 0 is 0.
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Sorry, was pretty busy the last days and not very active but I wanted to report on something.
Borderlands 3 had a "2 for 1" promotion in Germany. Needles to say it is sold out now.
Not just PC btw, but also PS4 and Xbox.
Gearbox is pushing the game hard to build a large community for micro-transactions, or pre-orders were very bad.
Still, PC numbers were also pushed by this. Prepare yourself for "BL 3 is a huge success on EGS" headlines. I assume other countries had similar promotions.
Borderlands 3 had a "2 for 1" promotion in Germany. Needles to say it is sold out now.
Not just PC btw, but also PS4 and Xbox.
Gearbox is pushing the game hard to build a large community for micro-transactions, or pre-orders were very bad.
Still, PC numbers were also pushed by this. Prepare yourself for "BL 3 is a huge success on EGS" headlines. I assume other countries had similar promotions.
Let's be honest, was there any chance BL3 wouldn't be success? They could release it on Games for Windows Live and we'd still get those headlines.Sorry, was pretty busy the last days and not very active but I wanted to report on something.
Borderlands 3 had a "2 for 1" promotion in Germany. Needles to say it is sold out now.
Not just PC btw, but also PS4 and Xbox.
Gearbox is pushing the game hard to build a large community for micro-transactions, or pre-orders were very bad.
Still, PC numbers were also pushed by this. Prepare yourself for "BL 3 is a huge success on EGS" headlines. I assume other countries had similar promotions.
I really doubt many people will stick with EGS after BL3.
Speaking of borderlands 3, 2K is sending review codes to US sites only for security reasons
www.vg247.com
Don't expect many Borderlands 3 reviews before launch - only US sites got code
If you're hoping to see the critical consencus on Borderlands 3 before you commit to a purchase, you're going to be pretty limited prior to launch.
www.vg247.com
Pretty hilarious that they won’t send to EU reviewers because they can’t send corporate goons to threaten them overseas.Speaking of borderlands 3, 2K is sending review codes to US sites only for security reasons
Don't expect many Borderlands 3 reviews before launch - only US sites got code
If you're hoping to see the critical consencus on Borderlands 3 before you commit to a purchase, you're going to be pretty limited prior to launch.
