It would be interesting to know if they counted Steam sales of the first game as Uplay sales? Without knowing that their point is kinda moot.
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probably ... i mean - you still need udontplay to play that game (even if it's a neutered version of the launcher)
Yeah, but the copies weren't sold on uPlay in a first place, so, it can be both, lol.
Is Tim petty enough to decree that no game bought on eggs can use the Steam clients wealth of features.....
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Doesn't matter if your uPlay sales were way up if they couldn't outsell the steam sales.
pretty sure they've been outselling steam for a while (or, at the very least - selling just as well as steam)
you have to remember - ALL keys outside of steam were udotnplay keys ... you could ONLY get the steam version directly on steam
This move makes perfectly sense for a company that wants to keep an entire generation of gamers away from Steam tbh.
I'm much more curious to see how much they're going to charge for them. Will they be foolish enough to charge full price for a 1 year old game?
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Announcing your release date 2 days prior to release doesn’t seem like a good idea when you’re EGS exclusive. Also Kine releasing the day before. Epic’s exclusives keep releasing right next to eachother or on the same day. You’d think they would want to space them out a bit
I've noticed this as a trend in general with many indies lately, announcing release dates with very little time in advance.
It's a bloody stupid thing to do.
Still bullshit, anyone who wants to use a fucking steam controller should be able to. Fuck, you found a way to get playstation move controllers working, use those. That's what pc gaming is about.
When you don't have wishlists as reminder, it's maybe better to shorten the time between announcement and release so players don't forget the game exists and use the possible hype when it's still alive...
Apart from B3 and Ubi junk are there any other AAA exclusives? Can't think of anything else...
I am not too inclined to believe their perspectives turned. Due to how Epic's pre-payment works, developers who have not met aforementioned goals are encouraged to promote Steam sales for same reason they chose to go Epic exclusive: greed.
I suspect Devolver is having issues due to Epic now. Not so much because of the games that did sign exclusives, but because they now need to sign new games that don't already have exclusives, and the developers know that signing with them will get them caught up in the Epic backlash without actually getting any of the money.
Must be fun for devs and pubs having the official EGS twitter tweet out something about your game and have the majority of the replies be about Fortnite.
I doubt this. The absolute majority of indie developers would be happy to sign an exclusivity deal with Epic.
You know, the issue with Devolver and Epic may be that Epic was not that happy with the deals. They want games that bring in users, if Devolver's exclusives flopped then Epic might have decided to spend that money elsewhere.
The ones who only want a paycheck and not a future.
And let me say it here: I don't care about indie developers who only make games to get a paycheck or gamble on success. If you need to survive, if you need a steady paycheck, get a job at a big Studio, a normal software studio or outside of programming.
The point about tmarg was making: Devolver has dozens upon dozens of developers. only a fraction will get an exclusive deal. And even if Devolver makes a company-wide exclusive deal with Epic that includes every release for a year, how much money do you think the indie developer gets out of this deal?
If you got the publishing deal with Devolver over a forecast of selling x amount of copies Devolver may be the good guy and gives you the equivalent cashout from the exclusivity deal or a "little" less because it is risk-free money. But what if you are confident in your product and after 2 years of work and high placing on peoples wishlist, you just know that your game will blow the forecast out of the water? An epic deal would possibly kill your fanbase and you will get a fraction of the possible payout because Devolver made a deal with epic and only pays you the agreed upon forecast.
This happened with Subnautica and What Remains of Edith Finch as well.
Wouldn't be surprised if Control was pirated more on pc than it sold on EGS.
I also bet it will be on Game Pass soon.
EGS has a halloween sale going on but only like 3 of the games on sale are at an all time low, Every other game has been cheaper in the Mega Sale or given out for free.
but muh steam devaluing games tho amirite
but muh steam devaluing games tho amirite
Probably. But the vast majority of them can't get one. So signing with Devolver rewards them with the backlash from devolver's previous exclusivity deals, but none of the money. Unless Devolver can promise all of their games will get a deal, they are going to have a problem.
Kine's dev made an AMA on Reddit and it got really popular, might've reached front page. I won't be surprised if that is the last time I hear about it until it shows up on the upcoming games list on Steam.
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Good on her, she's got her game out. I won't buy it on EGS but all the best to them!
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I disagree. I think that selling well on Steam will show devs where the money really is, since they will starve after the EGS bankroll and earn nothing after the upfront money until the games finally release on Steam.
I mean, look at Devolver already backtracking. They know.
Cordelia Yeah, i read the comments up to the point that the Console Warriors turned up and started harping on about "Another Launcher" followed by "I'm not a PC Gamer but" and i was out.
... and then i read a bit further and i'd like to think it's a case of "Person who took Company's money says Company is good" kind of thing otherwise, yeah i'm going to disagree with a whole lot of their opinions. Bleh.
... and then i read a bit further and i'd like to think it's a case of "Person who took Company's money says Company is good" kind of thing otherwise, yeah i'm going to disagree with a whole lot of their opinions. Bleh.
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That's all you needed to say to convince me to not buy your game when it comes to Steam, best of luck tho!Kine dev said:
"I love Valve, but I've decided to sign a deal with Epic to boycott their store anyway"
This isn't happening.m afaik. Devolver has been defending exclusivity deals in their recent interview with GameSpot.
Same here. Developers considering moneyhats as healthy competition can GTFO. I'm losing more and more respect for developers because of this kind of nonsense.
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I wasn't saying that Devolver was going to decline EGS moneyhats. I'm saying that they're admitting that there is a high level of risk involved with EGS, and because not of PR, but the bottom-line.
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What a terrible sale, only thing that kinda intrigues me is Control (I love Remedys games).
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That "features I don't use" is a non argument from people that likely don't even (want to?) know what Steam offers without even realizing. Like yeah you don't wanna pay a translator $100 to then give your game a chance on emerging markets Steam actually nurtures with their currency and payment method support? Your loss then and I don't need to feel bad for you and submit to a lesser service because you can't bother understanding the industry you're part of. Every game uses Steam features even if they don't have online modes, achievements, leaderboards, cards or whatever else people seem to narrow it down to.
The visibility argument is a flat out lie, EGS is a total mess in that regard, how can they possibly say that with a straight face when it's a 1 page game dump?
And yeah, you won the fortnite lottery, good for you. That's not competition, it's not for "indies" or for anyone who is flat out denied the chance to get on the store by default unless they pass the Tim Sweeney approval test of the current mood/whim and submit to shitty terms, you just (think you) got lucky.
The visibility argument is a flat out lie, EGS is a total mess in that regard, how can they possibly say that with a straight face when it's a 1 page game dump?
And yeah, you won the fortnite lottery, good for you. That's not competition, it's not for "indies" or for anyone who is flat out denied the chance to get on the store by default unless they pass the Tim Sweeney approval test of the current mood/whim and submit to shitty terms, you just (think you) got lucky.
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A little bit of me keeps thinking "I hope her game bombs". It's not nice, I hope it does good, but still, there's that tiny bit of me that hope the game does badly.
These discounts won't convince anyone to buy anything they weren't already planning on buying. Seems like a waste of a sale banner.
And about the dev above, I have no problem with small teams taking the cash and running. If you're a dev team of 1-2 people, that's probably a decent amount of money. Imagine how you'd feel about a company giving you a lottery ticket.
And about the dev above, I have no problem with small teams taking the cash and running. If you're a dev team of 1-2 people, that's probably a decent amount of money. Imagine how you'd feel about a company giving you a lottery ticket.
Plus, Ashen and Hades are out in December, Blands 3 is out in about 5 months, WWZs playerbase is reportedly dying (I guess thats why the game is on Xbox Game Pass to help it) and it will release on Steam in april (not that long) assuming the devs want to release it on more platforms after 1 year.
Control is the only one intriguing as it's still a long time til Steam release + it's apparently a really good SP story driven game.
However, the latest update that put the DRM into the game is so far putting me off it.
The rest of it (Heavy Rain, Beyond, Sinking City etc.) are not interesting enough for me to buy and play now with so many other games I need to finish.
Also, the discounts themself are pretty shit.
Control is the only one intriguing as it's still a long time til Steam release + it's apparently a really good SP story driven game.
However, the latest update that put the DRM into the game is so far putting me off it.
The rest of it (Heavy Rain, Beyond, Sinking City etc.) are not interesting enough for me to buy and play now with so many other games I need to finish.
Also, the discounts themself are pretty shit.