Jim really can't stop with his ridiculous "Valve is doing absolutely nothing" meme. In my opinion, Valves strategy to provide every gamer with a fully customized store page is much better than any company controlled curation.
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Jim wants Valve to take console - like measures so he can then complain about Valve's TRIPLE A business decisions.
At least Epic's plan to bleed Steam dry of high profile games does not go as planned with Microsoft providing Steam with plenty of 1st party games.Pretty sure EGS managers or whatever the blokes are who decide what games to nab are just looking at Steams most wished games. I think I'm a bit too sour at them
I really hope this will lead to people spending their money on Microsofts games instead of Epic's exclusives.
It's good to be suspicious of them, Microsoft's history is one of shadiness and bad business ethics. Nothing they're doing is actually altruistic or such, not even their efforts towards accessibility.
But the fact that they might have gotten smart enough to realize that servicing as many customers as possible, be that through Steam support, cross-play efforts, increasing game accessibility, lowering costs through subscription models, or whatever...that's a decent sign.
I'm not going to get up and applaud them for what I think is basic business sense, but I'm glad they've pivoted that direction.
I've rolled my eyes several time while reading the article about Microsofts games coming to Steam on PcGamesN. More than half of the article is about speculation that these games will probably come to EGS as well. Do these editors get bonuses for shilling for Epic?
Just read that. I wish I had stopped at that dumb Fortnite thumbnail completely out of place though.
At this point I think we can safely assume, without going into conspiracy theories, that they have at least a very strong financial incentive to keep Epic happy. A lot of people are going after the bags of cash Sweeney is throwing around, be it via moneyhat, "incentives" or just plain ad money for ads covering all your fucking site
And since they don't appear to be doing any research before paying anyone, there is a good chance to get some.
So long as you're contributing to their MAU, you're contributing to their ecosystem. Even if you're not a big spender, you're creating an environment where big spenders, well, spend.
If that means they're on Steam, they'll go on Steam. I have no doubt that this is a cynical move by MS to get their figures up, but I don't care. They're releasing good games on the best PC platform. And in the end, the more games on Steam means there's more competition in what matters: the games themselves.
Hopefully when Gears 5 lands on Steam and stomps anything releasing on EGS within a six week radius, AAA pubs take notice. As if many of them haven't already seen the brand sabotage that Deep Silver did on Metro, at any rate.
At any rate, I echo the sentiment. Good on MS for supporting an open and vibrant PC ecosystem. Not only are they giving players choice about where they buy and play their games on PC, but they are also indicating that they're comfortable competing with all the other awesome PC games out there. I feel when developers sign EGS exclusives or silo their games off on their own launcher, they're tacitly admitting they don't really want to share store space with all the amazing PC games on Steam.
Almost everything got pushed to at least July, including cloud saves.
I would say that's funny (considering I just read on Era that World War Z stores all of the progression and unlocks locally), but I have a feeling there is going to be a lot of poor programmers almost dying trying to get everything ready for the Borderlands 3 launch.
oh, you can be absolutely sure of it!
Yup, BL3 is the big event for EGS to make it or brake it.
Maybe the game will handle some of those features directly? I'm sure Randy could outsource some of those features to a 3rd party dev team if Epic is too busy
That "Long Term ( > 6 Months)" for achievements tho.
Those next two months will be crunch hell for EGS devs it seems. Gotta feel sorry for them, since Tim apparently isn't.
you can bet on it ... he's probably working all those people to the bone ... if he's willing to do this for fortnite, he's DEFINITELY willing to do the same for his shitty store
Games held hostage IS a known issue.
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Hmmm, come to think the userbase of BL3 probably cares a lot for achievements (or any thing that gives the sense of progression) so I expect to see people complaining about it a lot.
And that's another feature that will require developers go back to their games and implement manually later, just like cloud saves. At least they already got paid for it
The only doubt in my mind is what takes priority: Fortnite crunch or EGS crunch, because by now it's obvious they don't have enough people to do both. Probably because of physical limitations like the number of hours in a day and not because of some nonsense like workers well-being. But hey, they are getting paid good bonuses so it's alright... (/s of course before anyone jumps on me
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Honestly I expect Randy spin the lack of features as something positive. He didnt care about the very projects his teams were making, let alone Epic's.
And oof just saw thar guy who lost 40h worth of progress in World War Z.
Nah, there are definitely different teams working on that.The only doubt in my mind is what takes priority: Fortnite crunch or EGS crunch, because by now it's obvious they don't have enough people to do both. Probably because of physical limitations like the number of hours in a day and not because of some nonsense like workers well-being. But hey, they are getting paid good bonuses so it's alright... (/s of course before anyone jumps on me
You only notice the lack of cloud saves when it's too late.
Losing progress is the worst.
Well the lack of forums is not an oversight but a selling point...
You know, had they launched the store as a beta and notified their users about its users that some features may be incomplete, it would've at least been less disastrous. Instead, they just rushed the store as an "early access"-like official launch with "exclusives" as its main selling point. Also, the roadmap doesn't look so great. Its really insulting that a simple thing to implement, such as a shopping cart and game forums, needed 6 months to be added in.
Exactly. It makes it harder for users to share dissatisfaction, which apparently some developers are in favor of(see: developers who support user reviews being optional).
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Correction, the shopping cart is in the more than 6 months lane.
Also this assumes they are going to make that timeframe at all. They moved most of the May targets (which had been April targets) to July, which obviously pushed other stuff even farther back.
As long as there are no EGS games in the monthly bundle, I don't care. But no doubt Epic is paying lots of money to make that happen.
you know it's going to happen ... probably very soon too
(i imagine they'll want to get even more people in there before the first exclusive contracts start to expire)
You also know when they do infest Humble Monthly that the headline game will be a decent Steam game, followed by a shitty surprise in the reveal after it's too late to pull out.
I'm pretty much almost certainly going to let my annual subscription expire as the games they've been giving away recently haven't been to my tastes, and it's only getting worse. I might even replace it with Game Pass so I can play The Outer Worlds without inflating Sweeney's ego.
I'm pretty much almost certainly going to let my annual subscription expire as the games they've been giving away recently haven't been to my tastes, and it's only getting worse. I might even replace it with Game Pass so I can play The Outer Worlds without inflating Sweeney's ego.
Humble monthly is probably going to be a good way to get some more people on EGS, since if they put a decent game there I doubt many people would pause the subscription just because is Epic.
Also, Anno 1800 is back on the store, and with 20% discount on top of the $10. But no Division 2 or Breakpoint. Either they are doing the "uplay integration" one by one by hand of Ubisoft also doesn't want the discount on those titles.
Kind of curious if something changed or buying on EGS is still basically giving you a UPlay copy.
Also, Anno 1800 is back on the store, and with 20% discount on top of the $10. But no Division 2 or Breakpoint. Either they are doing the "uplay integration" one by one by hand of Ubisoft also doesn't want the discount on those titles.
Kind of curious if something changed or buying on EGS is still basically giving you a UPlay copy.
I would go further and say that I fully expect that this will happen.
You just know that with the latest Microsoft news with Gamepass on PC and releasing their first party games on Steam going forward good ol' Tim is standing somewhere screaming into the abyss
we can only hopeYou just know that with the latest Microsoft news with Gamepass on PC and releasing their first party games on Steam going forward good ol' Tim is standing somewhere screaming into the abyss
It's the Epic desperation that makes me chuckle so much. They're like the try hard friend who thinks they are doing their best but are just pissing everyone off. I can't even say I dislike Epic as I don't, I feel genuinely sorry for all the poor developers currently crunching on Fortnite and the store with Tims obsession over Steam.we can only hope
Thereby ruining the reputation of another fantastic pc gaming service. Isn't competition great?
Been watching twitter this last few weeks, Epic is handing creator codes like candy, will not be long until they have an army:
Jesus... That's so over the top it's embarrassing.Been watching twitter this last few weeks, Epic is handing creator codes like candy, will not be long until they have an army:
Thank God a billionaire corporation known for treating their employees like disposable trash are here to make gaming great again!
I thought I recognized this guy so I checked and hes STILL going at it. This dude literally spends hours of his day searching Epic related tweets on twitter and shits on Steam with blatant lies or shills his creator code on unrelated tweets.Been watching twitter this last few weeks, Epic is handing creator codes like candy, will not be long until they have an army:
Fucking hell that's like a bingo cardBeen watching twitter this last few weeks, Epic is handing creator codes like candy, will not be long until they have an army:
MONOPOLY!!
DAMN 30% CUT!!
COMPETITION!!
It's NEW, it can only get BETTER!!
It's NOT spyware!
Cheaper games! TRICKLE DOWN EPICNOMICS!!
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It seems that the PC space is considered as very important to Epic's interests if Sweeney and co are utilizing this sort of smear campaigns to "compete".
It is highly unethical and idiotic but if a good number of your audience lacks intelligence and the capacity to apply critical thought on issues then their effort is bearing fruits.
It is highly unethical and idiotic but if a good number of your audience lacks intelligence and the capacity to apply critical thought on issues then their effort is bearing fruits.
too bad they didn't consider it "very important" a decade ago when they said everyone playing on PC is a pirate and then fucked off to consoles
I mean, yes crunch sucks, but clearly some people at Epic besides Tim and Sergey are onboard with what they're doing or we'd have seen massive turnover.
They did crunch in the previous two months as well, despite missing roadmap deadlines, Who would have thought that making competent store and launcher is not as easy as it looks.