Seriously, what are these devs thinking?
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They're also selling it directly on their website. I have to wonder what kind of deal they have.
No first run label
Plus an Ooblets-like condescending blog post.
Safe to say they got a bag of V-Bucks.
Incredible. This is a great way to get a nice spot on my blacklist. Permanently.
they probably signed it back then
I'm sure the sequel to a 16 year old indie game will do amazing numbers on EGS. When they give it away for free.
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Speaking of, Super Meat Boy Forever will be free tomorrow
Damn it Switch it is thenWorld of Goo 2
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I think World of Goo 2 is EGS exclusive. Only Switch and Epic are mentioned on their site.
Jesus Christ that quote is awful
No first run label
Plus an Ooblets-like condescending blog post.
Safe to say they got a bag of V-Bucks.
I will never understand why some developers choose to be so openly hostile towards their audience. So you signed an exclusive deal, just say "we did what we think is best for our business, if you don't want to buy the game until it comes to the platform you prefer then that's totally ok". Why be such an asshole about it?
EXCLUSIVE - Skull and Bones Has Less Than 1 Million Players Total, Including Free Trial Players
Insider Gaming sources have revealed that Skull and Bones, Ubisoft's first "AAAA game" has less than one million players.
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Only 850k players (including free trial users) is terrible.
At least it's probably doing better than Suicide Squad. Maybe.
Nah, Suicide Squad is likely more of a relative bomb - the type where you sell a million copies when you needed 5 to break even -, 850k players when the game is on Ubi's subscription and it also has a 8 hour long trial is "no one is giving Ubisoft a single cent for this shit" territory.
I had genuinely forgotten the game even came out.
2 EGS exclusives until today have popped up on Steam with different release dates: Alto Collection and Dodo Peak.
At the very least we can agree that they'll be the two biggest flops of the year.
Kingdom Hearts fans right now.
World of Goo 2 going epic exclusive in an ocean full of games breaking records here and there on Steam the past few months is funny.
Yeah it's not 2008 any more. There are way more high quality indies than there are hours in a day. Just in the past week you had titles like Balatro and Deep Rock Galactic Survivor sell tons of units on Steam. I'm aware they have publishers and technically aren't indie, but let's not rehash the Dave the Diver argument today.
Kevin Beaumont (@GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social)
Attached: 1 image Mogilevich ransomware (extortion) group claim their latest victim is Epic Games. #threatintel
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Oh dear
Insomniac-level leak for Epic Games incoming?Kevin Beaumont (@GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social)
Attached: 1 image Mogilevich ransomware (extortion) group claim their latest victim is Epic Games. #threatintel
Oh dear
Honestly? I hope not, if it's real seems like they got customer info such as names and payment methods which would be really fucked.
Hacking group claims Epic Games breach
UPDATE 4/3/24: A group which claimed to have breached Epic Games' servers has admitted their claim was false, and said …
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Sounds like it may be fake.
Could be. Or Epic are so royally fucked they haven’t realised it yet.Hacking group claims Epic Games breach
UPDATE 4/3/24: A group which claimed to have breached Epic Games' servers has admitted their claim was false, and said …
Sounds like it may be fake.
That said, would anyone be surprised if some grifter has used genAI to make a whole bunch of documents, PowerPoints, and such purporting to be internal Epic documents, which they’ll sell to whoever is stupid enough to pay them?
Suicide Squad on EGS was supposed to release today but it looks like it's been delayed until the 26th. But hey it has the Now on Epic tag so they'll get 100% of those hundreds of sales.
There are also some spicy emails in the post that I'd suggest reading. Phil Schiller straight up accuses Epic of being untrustworthy and throws back Tim's Twitter posts.
To be fair to Epic, they’re in the right here.
Apple are fucking around and acting as a gatekeeper, which is against the spirit of the DMA. Even if they’re maliciously complying, they shouldn’t be getting the EU’s back up like this.
Apple are fucking around and acting as a gatekeeper, which is against the spirit of the DMA. Even if they’re maliciously complying, they shouldn’t be getting the EU’s back up like this.
Tim Sweeney should have deleted his twitter account a long time ago for the good of his business but the man is an idiot and he's addicted to twitter.
I hate Apple with passion, but I'm not sure I'd want to do business with a company that brings me to court and continuously damages my reputation on social media. Epic gets what they deserve.
What's most impressive imo is that hundreds of millions of people are huge fans of these companies.
When the penalty is a fine everything is legal for a price.
Apple doesn't care. They make in a few days whatever amount the fee will be.
Apple is definitely acting in what seems in violation of the law, but what further complicates matters is the US Court rulings that basically agreed Apple does not have to work with Epic.
The EU may not factor that if it decides to weigh in on this latest action from Apple, but Apple will no doubt point to Epic purposefully using code circumventing Apple’s review and acting in a way that they should not be forced to work with Epic specifically.
The EU may not factor that if it decides to weigh in on this latest action from Apple, but Apple will no doubt point to Epic purposefully using code circumventing Apple’s review and acting in a way that they should not be forced to work with Epic specifically.
Yeah, exactly.
I think it's difficult to imagine the idea of forcing a company to work with another one that has been proven to have purposefully violated their prior agreement.
Anyway, the more Apple and Epic fight the more entertained I am. I still wish there was a way for both of them to lose harder.
Hey that my childs college fund you're talking about /s
From how I understand it, the DMA doesn't allow developers to go willy nilly on iOS and Apple has some say as to how their platform is used, but they can't simply refuse to allow alternate marketplaces. Hypothetically, if Valve wanted to expand Steam to offer iOS apps, Apple would have to allow it.
Apple is arguing Epic is a bad actor due to their past events, and frankly they were with flagrant breaches of contracts, a sleazy PR campaign and a CEO who won't shut up. I think it will eventually come back to bite Apple, but that's a legal fight years in the making (the recent Spotify fine was based on a complaint filed in 2019).
Are Apple being petty children? Yep. Do I love the schadenfreude from seeing Tim Sweeney clowned on? Yeeeeeep.
To be honest, they’re both going to lose harder here.
Epic loses first mover advantages on App Store alternatives and likely doesn’t recover from this once Apple are forced to change their tune by the courts or a revision of the DMA. Someone else will fill that void and Sweeney will be seething.
Apple, meanwhile, will be brought to heel one way or another. The EU will get their way with this, even if they have to rewrite the entire act. All Apple have done is angered European legislators and shredded up all their lobbying power for a generation.
Regardless of how Epic acted, I think they’re in the right here.
I don’t care that they’re taking the L, and in some ways it’s funny that they’ve been pushing for this for years and fell at the last hurdle, but Apple are really not showing themselves in a good light here.
Mobile ecosystems opening up to everyone except Epic would be very funny.
If only Epic had sued Apple without any theatrics of hiding code, secretly activating it at later date, Apple wouldn't have any basis to deny Epic.
It's almost like their assurances have lost some weight after deliberately breaking the terms previously. Who could have seen that coming.
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And good for actual competition. No doubt Epic will start money hatting popular apps and games on mobile as well as soon as EGS is launched.
I think Apple are probably right to not want to work with Epic again after their duplicity, but the whole point of the DMA was to stop massive gatekeepers like Apple from having the power they’ve just wielded.
Love or hate Epic, but the principle of the DMA should be that Epic doesn’t have to ask Apple for permission to create and distribute an App Store for iOS.
The fact that Apple has thrown up a whole bunch of fees and different terms for developers to abide by shows they don’t want anyone to actually do this, and they’ve intentionally made it as unattractive as possible to do so. 9/10 developers just won’t even bother, given Apple’s terms.
Banning Epic is just Apple looking for an excuse to block the other 1/10 developers. I’m sure they’ll find some other excuse to torpedo someone else’s third party App Store, should one come along.
Surprise surprise, the EU is looking into Apple's shenanigans.
The ultimate irony: Valve expands Steam to iOS and Epic puts Fortnite on there.
Lego Fortnite is getting paid model kits. ~$20 to $25 a pop. Maybe that'll help the declining player numbers.
I think I would rather just buy real Lego instead
Aw, that was anticlimatic.
And now for something completely different.
I've been lurking /r/gamedev for awhile and have seen several threads like these. Most of the time devs who post say EGS is about 1% of Steam sales, but there are rare occasions where an EGS version will outsell Steam.
It basically matches what we know: most smaller games that ship on both stores do basically nothing on EGS (outliers notwithstanding) and AAA games do somewhat better. Just as an example: if Hogwarts Legacy and Alan Wake were in the same tier, then Hogwarts possibly had 400k-500k sales on EGS which is probably ~10% of Steam.