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Despite what journos and EGS defenders have said, Darq dev is satisfied with the first week sales.
Thanks
and that's good for him !Looks like being a martyr may be a smarter PR move than being an asshole
I'm still gonna take roll here for folks who did or did not buy DARQ.
As soon as I get some real free time.
As soon as I get some real free time.
Whether you take EGS exclusivity or not, handle yourself with some grace, humility, empathy and kindness.
The Darq developer did all of the above, and the so-called “Friends of the Devs” threw him under the bus.
I haven’t bought it yet because I’m broke (new job, trying to survive on a reduced payslip from my last job), but I will do when I have some liquidity. I’m glad the game has sold well.
The Darq developer did all of the above, and the so-called “Friends of the Devs” threw him under the bus.
I haven’t bought it yet because I’m broke (new job, trying to survive on a reduced payslip from my last job), but I will do when I have some liquidity. I’m glad the game has sold well.
What really fucking pissed me off was that some of them were implying that the Darq dev was catering to toxic fanboys, despite his statement not being toxic at all. I wonder why they’re try so hard to throw all PC players into the gamergate bucket. Between that and that fucking stupid Kotaku article about sex games, their bias is so fucking evident.
1. Congratulations on the new job
2. You're from the UK? At least according to your steam id thing
Thanks! And yes, I am. You’re very kind by the way, I appreciate it.
The more I'm reading and thinking about it, I really do believe a lot of this is a console war against PC as a platform. And it's likely from years of PC players having better graphics, access to more mods, not having to pay extra to access multiplayer in games, and an overall smoother gameplay experience (higher FPS, less lag), at least for games that are well-optimized. It's apparent there's tons of jealousy coming from console players, and they're getting a lot of pleasure out of watching the people they've envied for years tear themselves up over this.
I think it’s just bad faith shitposting, rather than some deep seated jealousy, though there’s probably some people like that.
Most just want to wage console wars.
Most just want to wage console wars.
Yeah, I'm sure there's some of that, people just wanting to watch the world burn. But I don't think a lot of console players have forgotten the whole "PC Master Race" thing. And with consoles finally looking to catch up to PC next gen, there's even more reason for them to view PC as a competitor, especially with PC getting more and more ports as a lot of publishers and developers have begun viewing it as a prime market for expansion.
Next free game has Celeste.
Fuck.
That's really tempting.
Fuck.
That's really tempting.
Epic keeps giving out games I already own, Makes it so much easier to ignore
Have to say that's a good one, for once it's not a game that have already been available for free or bundled before.
I don't do that, but apart fromsigning with the devil with your blood and soul opening an EGS account, is there any risk having an account just to grab the free games ? I have a friend who will never buy anything on EGS but he have an account, connect via browser, grab the games but never execute the launcher itself. He looks happy (for now... )
I don't do that, but apart from
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I'll play the free games if I like them (and it happened about twice because their choice of free games is about as interesting as their store for me), my money is more important than the store.
Which is pretty much why I don't buy on EGS to begin with!
Which is pretty much why I don't buy on EGS to begin with!
Anyway, Ubi Sales on EGS.
www.epicgames.com
I hope they asked Ubi before...
ubisoft-sale
As a developer ourselves, we have always wanted a store with fair economics that connects us directly with our players. Thanks to the success of Fortnite, we are now able to share our capabilities with other developers and make that store a reality.
www.epicgames.com
I hope they asked Ubi before...
ETA for the ‘we have suspended the sale due to activation issues with uplay’
hugs $1 copy of Primal
EGS is successfully keeping me from buying Indie games for the most part. I wonder if that was part of the plan.
EGS is successfully keeping me from buying Indie games for the most part. I wonder if that was part of the plan.
Hades is confirmed to be coming to Steam in Early Access form on December 10th, almost exactly one year after its EGS launch. Hades General Discussions :: Steam Community
This is mainly interesting because their statement at launch was that the game would be using EGS as a test bed and would come to other platforms once it hit 1.0. This could mean EGS sales were particularly disappointing, or just that Early Access is taking longer than expected. I’d be more inclined to believe the latter based on the wording of this announcement on the game’s newfound Steam page and forums (wow, it’s like they’ve got features or something) -
This is mainly interesting because their statement at launch was that the game would be using EGS as a test bed and would come to other platforms once it hit 1.0. This could mean EGS sales were particularly disappointing, or just that Early Access is taking longer than expected. I’d be more inclined to believe the latter based on the wording of this announcement on the game’s newfound Steam page and forums (wow, it’s like they’ve got features or something) -
So they’re clearly prioritizing Steam over other digital game stores. Doesn’t GOG at least have an Early Access program as well? This is all very curious.
I would not be looking too much into this. The Steam release happens 1 year after the EGS release, it is just a matter of exclusivity contract.
The Steam page went live today, because their studio is 10 years old and they have a Steam sale:
The Steam page went live today, because their studio is 10 years old and they have a Steam sale:
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yes, of course ... it IS curious that they're putting the store page up 3 months before the release, though
i bet it would've actually released today if the contract wasn't for 12 months
I have added info in my message. Today is their "studio birthday". It is the best timing to get wishlists.yes, of course ... it IS curious that they're putting the store page up 3 months before the release, though
doesn't change anything about my reply, though ... in fact - it only makes me think i'm actually even more right
would've been the perfect time to release it today ... studio anniversary, big sale ... makes perfect sense
If not for the exclusivity agreement, the game would have been released last December. Or today.doesn't change anything about my reply, though ... in fact - it only makes me think i'm actually even more right
would've been the perfect time to release it today ... studio anniversary, big sale ... makes perfect sense
At least Epic won't snatch Hades from Steam if we add it to wishlist. Right?
well yeah ... but i mean, in like a purely hypothetical situation where they went to egs out of their own will to "test the waters" and didn't have to specifically wait 12 months flat to be able to release it everywhere else
well they can always extend the exclusivity by another 12 months ... or buy the studio
I will buy Celeste on Steam next week to make a statement.
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A reminder that Valve uses wishlists to gauge interest, and as a metric on what games they promote (or not).
That's why every game that's announced these days (or crowdfunded) keeps asking that, if someone's interested, that you add them to your wishlists.
If you believe Supergiant Games should be rewarded for signing an exclusivity deal for a full year, and still deserve to be granted the promotion that other game could receive instead, go right ahead, and do as they ask, and add the game to your wishlist.
If you believe otherwise, don't reward developers who pull crap like this.
It's disappointing that, with so many indie developers genuinely struggling to get some visibility to their games, these teams get free publicity from all the EGS "backlash" when they announce a timed-exclusivity, and are now prepared to get another launch, and a new wave of visibility, when they launch elsewhere, and to add insult to injury, people will pick up these games as soon as they launch on Steam (probably still at full price), adding another layer of double rewards to these developers: financial support from Epic + the sales they will still get anyway on Steam and other stores.
That's why every game that's announced these days (or crowdfunded) keeps asking that, if someone's interested, that you add them to your wishlists.
If you believe Supergiant Games should be rewarded for signing an exclusivity deal for a full year, and still deserve to be granted the promotion that other game could receive instead, go right ahead, and do as they ask, and add the game to your wishlist.
If you believe otherwise, don't reward developers who pull crap like this.
It's disappointing that, with so many indie developers genuinely struggling to get some visibility to their games, these teams get free publicity from all the EGS "backlash" when they announce a timed-exclusivity, and are now prepared to get another launch, and a new wave of visibility, when they launch elsewhere, and to add insult to injury, people will pick up these games as soon as they launch on Steam (probably still at full price), adding another layer of double rewards to these developers: financial support from Epic + the sales they will still get anyway on Steam and other stores.
Epic also use Steam wishlist to find another title to grab
Yeah I've tried to stop wishlisting stuff I know I'm definitely going to get, just to not add to the data for Epic to sniff at
I' with FunktionJCB here. I dont think I will be wishlisting or buying Hades even after the exclusivity ends. Supergiant hasnt made any condescending comments as far as I am aware of, but they did take Epics deal, and that in itself is very hard to forgive. Call me petty on that, but I dont wanna reward devs that go that route. Not afer all that has happened so far, and not even before. The one year deal was a kick in the face back then, and it still is.
I actually wrote to ACE Team directly asking them why they chose the deal for Eternal Cylinder*, since they have such a deep connection to the Steam community, and I told them that any dev going down the EGSclusivity route is sending, alongside Epic, a clear signal that they want to hurt and disrupt Steam and its community, and making PC gaming worse as a whole -- and again, it is very hard to forgive someone partaking in a campaign like that.
* a game that they already talked about back in 2015 in their Steam community group, btw. Link
I actually wrote to ACE Team directly asking them why they chose the deal for Eternal Cylinder*, since they have such a deep connection to the Steam community, and I told them that any dev going down the EGSclusivity route is sending, alongside Epic, a clear signal that they want to hurt and disrupt Steam and its community, and making PC gaming worse as a whole -- and again, it is very hard to forgive someone partaking in a campaign like that.
* a game that they already talked about back in 2015 in their Steam community group, btw. Link
So it’s not suspicious to you that the devs explicitly said the game wouldn’t hit Steam for at least a year and a half but are now trying to get it on Steam as soon as they’re legally allowed?
I'm fine with devs doing their alpha, beta or early access on a single storefront, as long as the final release is multi-store.
I am however not fine with the bullshit supergiant used to justify their exclusivity deal with Epic. Therefore I will skip Hades completely.
I also fully agree with FunktionJCB that devs going EGS exclusive but abusing Steam for attention is disgusting. But of course not a single games site is writing about this.
I am however not fine with the bullshit supergiant used to justify their exclusivity deal with Epic. Therefore I will skip Hades completely.
I also fully agree with FunktionJCB that devs going EGS exclusive but abusing Steam for attention is disgusting. But of course not a single games site is writing about this.
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Welp, I bought Celeste for my PS4 last Dec..... I was on a 2D platformer kick with my PS4 at the time, I had just purchased the AMAZING Dead Cells..... Also, I had purchased Inside in early 2018.... STOP LOOKING AT MY PSN GAMES TIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IMMA NAME A FOLDER CALLED "What they don't want Tim to know" and fill it with copies of free PSN games that Sony shat out at us.
(Celeste and Inside are great, do download everyone)
(Celeste and Inside are great, do download everyone)
"It's just another launcher" followed by "please add us on your wishlist"
Not going to wishlist more games from them after playing the snoozefest called Transistor.
Not going to wishlist more games from them after playing the snoozefest called Transistor.
Free is free tho. Tim can pay for all of our copies!
Shame that I'll just get the big exclusives on PS4 if at all though. Sorry Tim.
Deleted my account during their first sale, to send a message. Not planning on creating a new one, not even for free games.
Once I take a stance, I stick to it.
Tim and me have that in common.
Eh, I think that he dislikes Steam more than he likes money
No need to. If you want to download from EGS, go ahead.
I don't want to, but I'm also not perusing or trying to stop you.
Once Epic acknowledge that third party exclusivity and buying nearly finished games is shit I may rethink my stance. Till then: Epic is dead to me and nothing they offer will change that.
He'll be happy to pay your copies if that makes you a monthly active user, which Epic is using to convince devs to go EGS exclusive.
I'm with ISee here: if you don't like what Epic is doing, best thing to do is to ignore them completely.
I see it this way, Epic isn't going to stop with the exclusives shit and most indie devs and game journalists have already been brought over to its side. I can either not download and spend money later on something I could've had for free and nothing changes or download the games and nothing changes. I skipped on DLing Enter The Gundugeon and almost bought it later for $7.50. I could've had the game and been a king at Burger King if I'd had taken it when it was free rather than sticking to my useless guns. Instead I stewed and didn't buy it anyway.
I remember the GFWL thing. Microsoft "passes" an Epic and more every quarter and their store and launcher still failed. Most of us bought GFWL games and it still died. I haven't spent any money on their store and don't plan it. Freebies won't change anything.
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That's a long ass sale.... What ever happened to the fight against the devaluation of games...
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and yeah - 40% off for a month right after release ... my god, that game must've bombed HARD
Its on sale on both PS4 and EGS. Devolver also pretty much never mentioned it on social media after the first few days of release. Probably bombed super hard
Totally. I have limited complaints regarding the lack of features. I seriously don't mind waiting a year to get the game on steam.
What pisses me off is having this player who is so irresponsible and aggressive. I've always been like this, hence my long-standing hate affair with Microsoft.
Your main strategy is to make users of other software uncomfortable? Take/keep things away from them? Go fuck a cactus, egs.