Isnt the influencer program already a thing? There are so many wannabe streamers with 100~ followers (and 0 charisma) shilling epic and egs on twitter non stop. A lot of them put their creator code in their name.
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And yet it's not really came to much far as I can tell?
Apparently yes, I had no idea about it. It's basically the same program they had for Fortnite.
I mean, it might work for Fortnite people, but according to their FAQ:
I mean, I'm sorry but even people defending EGS usually say 'yeah I bought x game in the MegaSale and EGS works to launch that so it's doing its job just another launcher haha', I have yet to see someone flexing that they have the entire Epic library. Being real, ain't nobody buying $100s of games every week, so most people probably figured that ain't worth their time. As Ryna said that some low level streamers are shilling hard, maybe this worked to some extent back during the Mega Sale with people changing regions and buying every pre-order game for cheap? No idea, but it's a possibility.
yeah, don't think so ... it's more annoying than anything else, i think
haven't really seen anyone shilling those games either (even if epic are paying the "shilling fee" themselves for the first year)
but then again - i haven't really been looking that hard ... but i don't think many are biting
certainly not any of the big ones (5%, or whatever the shilling split is, is peanuts to them)
Do not trust anything in wikipedia without source.
Even Epic forgot they don't have cart to allow purchase multiple games, probably because of how basic feature this is...
It doesn't provide a valid source, so while great if true (should be more!) I'll take it with a grain of salt for now
Wikipedia is more for getting as general information about something as possible and shouldn't be seen as exact source for something unless it has citations for said information.
I think the figure is from Discord community manager? I remember the number (and corresponding screenshot) being mentioned in youtube criticism video by SidAlpha.
i mean ... someone would have to buy it first
i mean ... someone would have to buy it first
true.....Not it!
You don't know any editors who got a free review key?i mean ... someone would have to buy it first
Epic has been very stingy with adding new games to the creator program
EGS hates influencers confirmed. I usually add Phawx's tag when picking up something for free, but I couldn't do it last time. Damn shame.
Tim getting cheap as fuckEpic has been very stingy with adding new games to the creator program
or maybe it's just not working as well as they though it would ... or maybe even at all
lol
ahemi mean ... someone would have to buy it first
The leaderboards say that 1,377 people participated in the first weekly ritual. There are 7,640 entries on the Normal Journey Area High Score leaderboard.
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So, like 2,5 men bought the game? EGS is really opening the doors to the new audience.
I looked through a different leaderboard for a mode more people are playing, see edited post.
Well, 10-20k after a week on sale isn't that great either, but it's definitely better than sub 5k I expected before you edited your post
Yeah, it takes a while for the board to load up on my utterly shite internet, sorry about that.Well, 10-20k after a week on sale isn't that great either, but it's definitely better than sub 5k I expected before you edited your post
Both numbers are pretty interesting though. Less than a fifth of players bothered with the first "online event" that you can't really miss unless you ignore the non-Journey modes that take up a huge chunk of the game. So either they dropped the game pretty quickly, or only play Journey mode.
... but on PS4 at least, it's the event modes that kept me coming back and firing the game up each weekend when i hadn't touched it all week due to getting frustrated by Journey Mode. I assume EGS connects to the same Event servers as the PS4?
Maybe if the game has only been out a week maybe people are still Journeying? I know i joined Events on the first weekend for the sweet avatars.
Maybe if the game has only been out a week maybe people are still Journeying? I know i joined Events on the first weekend for the sweet avatars.
No, the developers mentioned having to make their own leaderboard setup "until Epic gets their solution ready" or something along those lines.
If people start digging too much, I'm thinking the Tetris Effect leaderboards will suddenly become limited to the top 1000 entries
Also, I was trying to find out when Epic started to support my local currency here in Brazil (I think it was this week), and found that PCGamer has a article about.... EGS Patch notes? The Epic Games Store patch notes for July 2019
I mean.. I know I shouldn't be surprised but.... how much more obvious can their bias be?
Also, I was trying to find out when Epic started to support my local currency here in Brazil (I think it was this week), and found that PCGamer has a article about.... EGS Patch notes? The Epic Games Store patch notes for July 2019
I mean.. I know I shouldn't be surprised but.... how much more obvious can their bias be?
If you look at other posts by that author... well... just look.If people start digging too much, I'm thinking the Tetris Effect leaderboards will suddenly become limited to the top 1000 entries
Also, I was trying to find out when Epic started to support my local currency here in Brazil (I think it was this week), and found that PCGamer has a article about.... EGS Patch notes? The Epic Games Store patch notes for July 2019
I mean.. I know I shouldn't be surprised but.... how much more obvious can their bias be?
Does pc gamer write an article every time Fortnite gets a new skin? Wtf
i mean - pretty much everyone does ... it's not exactly out of ordinary tbh
fortnite is still huge, so everyone writes about every little thing that happens with the game - for clicks
and i can only assume it works because they keep doing it
Fortnite is understandable. Any fluff piece like "the sky a now a slightly different color" will generate traffic. But an article titled "Patch Notes" with some generic text and incredible items like "Resolved an issue that prevented some users from completing launcher updates." and "Improved web caching behavior" probably won't get a lot of attention. That's just some lazy shilling
But on topic, they do seem to be rushing to implement a lot features in time for the Borderlands 3 launch. I imagine it will be the big test for EGS.
i have absolutely zero doubt it'll sell AT LEAST 1 million copies on egs ... sadly
Without a doubt. But I think 1 million would actually be bad for BL3 on PC given the success of the previous one. Not that this will stop all the PR gloating of course.
I will just be in my corner secretly rooting for their store backend (with all these rushed additions) to crash with the load increase. (Yeah.. I know it's petty
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You are correct. My friends think I'm crazy that I won't buy it. They think I'm even crazier because I won't even buy it when it launches on Steam.
not exactly a stretch ... i mean - it's called Blands for a reason
I can already see: Borderlands 3 sold 2.5 times more copies on launch than Borderlands 2 on PC thanks to Epic Games Store.Without a doubt. But I think 1 million would actually be bad for BL3 on PC given the success of the previous one. Not that this will stop all the PR gloating of course.
I will just be in my corner secretly rooting for their store backend (with all these rushed additions) to crash with the load increase. (Yeah.. I know it's petty
Yeah, it is the one game I can see actually breaking 1 million copies there.
On the other hand, since its exclusivity period is half of all the other gamesi, I can see it having a limited effect. It will have frontloaded sales but anybody not picking it up in like the first two weeks after release will probably just wait for the Steam release instead.
we can only hope that'll be the case
Borderlands 3 will be a real test.
Whoops. Beaten over the weekend, lol.Fortnite is understandable. Any fluff piece like "the sky a now a slightly different color" will generate traffic. But an article titled "Patch Notes" with some generic text and incredible items like "Resolved an issue that prevented some users from completing launcher updates." and "Improved web caching behavior" probably won't get a lot of attention. That's just some lazy shilling
But on topic, they do seem to be rushing to implement a lot features in time for the Borderlands 3 launch. I imagine it will be the big test for EGS.
I had another lengthy discussion about EGS with the Rebel Galaxy devs today. I strongly disagree with their opinion that Epic's moneyhats are the only way to make their store popular, and even more with their opinion that Valve did the same with HL2.
This said, they keep repeating that they are doing it to push Valve into lowering their cut. They even believe that 12% is perfectly possible for Steam, even with key reselling. I'm not sure if they are being honest here.
I will obviously not buy Rebel Galaxy Outlaws, and I think it's a bit sad to brag about "we're fighting for a lower cut for indies" when they've signed a contract with Epic that offers them a minimum revenue guarantee.
Edit: the devs just admitted they only did it for the money. Who could have thought?
Also, it seems Epic's free games is working out for them:
This said, they keep repeating that they are doing it to push Valve into lowering their cut. They even believe that 12% is perfectly possible for Steam, even with key reselling. I'm not sure if they are being honest here.
I will obviously not buy Rebel Galaxy Outlaws, and I think it's a bit sad to brag about "we're fighting for a lower cut for indies" when they've signed a contract with Epic that offers them a minimum revenue guarantee.
Edit: the devs just admitted they only did it for the money. Who could have thought?
Also, it seems Epic's free games is working out for them:
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Then they're bad devs, despite their pedigree. They evidently don't know the costs of Steam nor the innerworkings of the platform, the backend, SteamWorks or their bizdev.
You should link the Bizdev conference Tom G from Valve hosted.
(Notable parts include their gargantuan growth in the CIS & Asia, both of which almost* exclusively use payment methods that charge 18% or more. In the case of Asia, it's notable that less than a quarter of payments are even done through traditional payment methods, but through SteamBanks (yes this is a thing in Asia; ATMs that support converting your cash to SteamWallet monies) and SteamWallet Cards.)
*They're so predominant that "traditional" payment methods are statistically irrelevant.
All of these payment methods are impossible to do at a 12% cut, and most aren't going to be supported by EGS. The ones that are (like, one or two?) push the costs onto consumers.
The TL;DR for the dumbo dev is that over a third of the most active consumers on the PC platform wont touch EGS as they're not able to buy the sodding games
(SteamWallet Cards cost ~26% of each unit it's used for)
Mind you, I've already spoken with 'em on Twitter. They've got a hard on for the cut, and little actual knowledge of Steams dev-facing backend (despite... Using it for their last game, surely?) and NO clue of the cut.
Just wishlisted the game on Steam too. Looks cool.
This helps indie developers somehow, I'm sure! Timothy wouldn't do otherwise.
Wait you mean Epic doesn't actually give a shit about devs and wants to maximize profit? No one saw this turn of events coming!
Oh yeah, them. I did have a lengthy discussion with them at various times and I ended up facing the fact that they are quite hypocritical, taking grand stances only when it suits them. For instance, one of the devs made a point of making sure people knew he cared about giving them value for their hard-earned money, having been raised in the eastern block and all. Took shots at Star Citizen for their crowdfunding model.
Epic Store though? All good! They are canaries in the coalmine, the brave indies putting themselves on the line to... Take that bag of cash from Epic while forcing that abortion of a store and a business strategy on an open platform.
So, Timmy Boy is all for developers prosperity...unless they want to be on other stores day one? Nice.
Between this and Tetris Effect using SteamVR it's crystal clear how hypocritical Epic is. To hell with anyone who stan for this shit.
Between this and Tetris Effect using SteamVR it's crystal clear how hypocritical Epic is. To hell with anyone who stan for this shit.
My thoughts exactly. I've completely lost my respect for these devs.