Bad at Games.
- Apr 17, 2019
That's why I said I think it's a misunderstanding, because we talk about very different parts of the progression. I totally agree with Amzin once you reach the point of "good enough".It's an interesting discussion and I kind of see both perspectives. Having good 4-stars definitely increases the 'value' of a banner and like Line said, having good 4-stars is quite important for newer players. The first and most obvious reason is that primogem income is slow even if you are getting all the one time bonuses from doing the story and exploration. It'll take several weeks to accumulate enough to get one 5-star and twice as long to guarantee a character. Keep in mind, new players usually do not have access to events or possibly can't complete them if they do. And then, even when you do scrounge together enough wishes, you won't know who to pull for. The guides you watch on Youtube will mention characters that might be weeks or months away from coming back. So for the most part, you are getting through the game with 4-stars along with whatever lucky 5-stars you happen to get along the way. The second reason is that we know that elemental reactions are mandatory, not optional to succeed in combat. I'm not even sure you can get past Mondstadt without figuring that out. I'm sure it is possible to get through everything with just Amber/Kaeya/Lisa/Traveler but I imagine it would be quite unpleasant unless you're also quite skilled. Having good 4-stars that work well with each other will make life better for sure. Sometimes even having good 4-stars isn't enough. In my case, I've had Bennett for a long time and I tried to make him work but I don't think he's that useful early on in the game. When you're still using blue relics with barely any sensible stats, you won't have the energy regen to get his burst up often enough. Being able to use his burst once every two fights maybe and then him being fairly useless for the rest of the time makes him feel like a wasted slot. Or who knows, maybe I didn't understand the character well enough and he actually is immediately fantastic from the first moment.
That's a lot closer to "building pity" that definitely should never be done, like with your example in HSR for Qingque. Really frivolous, and much too likely to get a 5* when you don't expect it.That all said, I still instinctively do not think I'd want to pull for 4-stars on a banner where I don't want the 5-star. The mathematical odds are just against you if you do unless there's a very specific situation in play. Like for example if you desperately want/need all of the 4-star rate up characters. Then you're guaranteed to get any one of them in 20 pulls max and that could be worth it depending on how much you want any of the characters. And of course, you're always counting down your primogems when you're pulling on a banner.
Your friend is weirdI was talking to my friend again and he was again like, you're running out of time to top up your account before the bonus resets. He said there are going to be like 5 archons in a row and I absolutely should aim to get at least 2 if not 3. Raiden (again, obviously) and also Nahida and if Furina is amazing then her too. And I'm like how exactly do you expect me to get 3 5-stars in a row outside of being stupendously lucky? He said buy gems. I said no. So this morning he sent me an Apple wallet code for 3000 rupees and said use this to buy a pack. It's super generous of him but it came with a kind of "fuck you if you're not going to buy it yourself then use this" tone so lol. That's the price of the pack that gets you 3920 primogems. So I guess I'll be buying that today.
So anyway, Qingqiu from the shop. Yes or no? I'm inclined to save for Lisa constellations but maybe that's the wrong choice here. Plus he's on the next banner...
EDIT: Just reading the Genshin subbreddit thread about the upcoming banners and virtually everyone is saying that they are amazing and actually incredible for new players. Welp, back to square one we go.
So far they have always ran one Archon per patch without a break once they started.And in a way, that also affects your future rolls: Lisa really wants Dendro characters, so Nahida is even higher on the priority list. Which is not a bad thing, because I'd say that Nahida is easily the best archon, and arguably the strongest support in the game anyway. But she's also MIA, we have no idea when she comes back, and it's probably not that soon.
So... wait for her return, but you have time to get primos in the meantime? The rumors have her at a "maybe in 4.5" at the earliest.
Raiden Shogun is almost guaranteed to come next patch. I would roll for her honestly, she is very, very good, and ultra flexible.
I'm probably gonna be pulling for one char every patch starting from 4.1 with Neuvillette, lol. Furina, Clorinde, Navia and Arlecchino are all must gets for now. And who knows what other characters they are gonna pull out of their hat...After all the reruns and then not being keen on Lynney (he's super duper strong but just does not appeal to me), it kinda feels like I'm gonna be summoning for all the new 5 stars coming out. I for sure want Nuev and Rizzly, probably Furina, Navia and Clorinde for their character if nothing else (I really hope Navia adds some Geo power since Geo used to be my favorite element)
Given my history of 50/50 luck, I just assume every character I want will cost 160 pulls, but even so with how much I've saved (also being a loyal Welkin enthusiast), I think I could get all but 1 of the known Fontaine 5 stars guaranteed, even better if I don't go to 160/160 on every one (but I probably will). Furina looks kinda interesting but have to see what kind of new / refined teams she enables, and I'm not committed to Arelcchino myself.I'm probably gonna be pulling for one char every patch starting from 4.1 with Neuvillette, lol. Furina, Clorinde, Navia and Arlecchino are all must gets for now. And who knows what other characters they are gonna pull out of their hat...
Rizzlebee is cool, but since he hasn't appeared at all in the game yet I don't really care for him, while Neuvillette's story parts have made him one of my faves.
I guess this could change by the time his banner appears... but at that point I will have already pulled Neuvillette and 2 chars in a single patch is too much for me even with how loaded my primo stash is currently
At least that's going to be a thing of the past starting with the 4.1 quests. Took a long time though, and here's hoping they'll add it to previous quests over time too.The worst part about it was that I would do 1 step on say Nilou, and then it would be locked out and I'd have to do one step on the main quest, then it would be locked out... etc. So frustrating.
I... actually like the daily changes. They could go further (but I kinda doubt they will for a good while at least), but even in it's limited form it's absolutely an improvement, especially for whenever new content drops and you can just focus on the game. Only once you're done you'll have to go back to the commission mines, but since there's almost always going to be an event of some kind, you'll be able to take care of part of it by just doing event stuff you'd do anyway cause primos.Yeah it seems like the quest locks are a thing of the past now, you can choose when to suspend conflicting quests, even.
On the subject of QOL, the changes to dailies... are pretty worthless. You can avoid doing commissions, and instead open chests/find oculi/complete quests... so there's a limited amount of them, and they will likely take longer than commissions.
Why doesn't it work like H3rd or HSR, spending resin, or killing things, or whatever else? This makes no sense!
I mean at least now you can check the achievement granting commission, and if it's not the right version for some, you can wait until tomorrow without losing primos... I think? Not like I've tried yet.
Weirdly, this is the second time this year where I see a game revamp dailies and fail miserably, Guild Wars 2 did it with the last expansion...
I don't know why they are regressing on this while everything else seems to be getting streamlined. It's awful, lol.I'm not looking forward to scouring for those starfish again when they respawn, really thought he would use an existing resource for some reason. I need to keep my eye out for those meka bugs too for Wriozzly, it's a couple weeks but that's only like 4 respawns of the stupid things if I'm not grabbing all of them.
The unofficial interactive map is excellent for that sort of thing - I just leave it open in my browser and when I grab stuff I mark it complete, and then if I get truly stuck I can just click on the icon and basically all puzzles (and tricky oculi / other) have people giving screenshot or video solutions. It's really hard to mark stuff retroactively obviously but I also pretty much just use it for the puzzles and oculi myself, not the thousands of regular chests that the region compasses will find.I think I might just stick with the archon and world quests and finish off this region. Then I'll watch a YouTube video to do the chests later or something.
Yeah I am aware of interactive maps but I personally find the idea of using them a bit too cumbersome. I don't have a second screen so I'd have to keep alt tabbing out whenever I found a chest, solved a puzzle or found an oculus thing or whatever. One would have to do this hundreds of times. Also, like you mentioned, you'd have to do it from the start and be diligent about it all the way through.The unofficial interactive map is excellent for that sort of thing - I just leave it open in my browser and when I grab stuff I mark it complete, and then if I get truly stuck I can just click on the icon and basically all puzzles (and tricky oculi / other) have people giving screenshot or video solutions. It's really hard to mark stuff retroactively obviously but I also pretty much just use it for the puzzles and oculi myself, not the thousands of regular chests that the region compasses will find.
It's also great for hunting down material you need for certain characters, even day 1 it had the location for Neuvillette's starfishy things which I was never going to find half of on my own
Edit: Although I will say, I use it to mark stuff as I go and refer back to if I can't 100% a region on my own, I think it's probably a lot less fun to just follow the map around and check things off compared to exploring more naturally, but that's up to the individual.
I haven't come across the quest you guys have mentioned on Watatsumi yet. I'm going through others right now and they all seem like quest chains so maybe it comes later.I second the notion of going back to Watatsumi and doing the The still water's flow quest.
I would also recommend doing Raiden's story quests, they are effectively the epilogue to the Archon quest and kinda wash away some of the bad taste of the main story arc.
I have 2 bow users. Yelan who currently has the Favonius warbow and needs it for the energy regen. Tighnari is currently using the Stringless which boosts skill and burst damage. I guess this bow should go to him but he's the squishiest character in my party as of now and I don't use him for anything other than dendro application. Increasing his weapon damage doesn't seem that great when he can't really stay on field during fights that much. I'll try it out on him anyway. Kind of wish I had gotten a character instead.
It's like if Seele designed an outfit for Jingliu.
That I don't really know about, she looks she's from Honkai, and I don't really like the hobo designs that a lot of the characters have.
It shows a lot of skin, but it's not even sexy, it just looks messy and lame.
Star Rail has had that issue for quite some time with a lot of extremely samey characters, but at least Argenti looks cool as fuck. Skirk looks... pretty eh from that tease.
This banner is so good, and I wish I had A LOT more primos than I do. Furina is my priority, but I'd love to get Baizhu too. I also want Charlotte, and Beidou(I don't have her yet!). I even want Furina's weapon(mainly for the look, if I'm honest!), though the weapon banner is too risky. Maybe on a re-run down the line. I'll have to use the fishing pipe, or maybe the BP sword until then.Trailer looked insane
And dang, patch seems to be packed to the brim with stuff.
Archon quest conclusion, 2 new areas with a big world quest each and a hell of a lot of events.
Appreciate the free Freminet and Charlotte being able to take photos in combat and domains is kinda hilarious.
No real opinion on Skirk from that shot alone, need to see her full design before passing judgment.