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I'm still waiting on my CE from the Nintendo store to be delivered. I'm scared of how beaten up it might have been by the delivery service.My Zelda copy is delayed and it will be sent after the weekend. I always draw the short stick.
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Nintendo failing me once again. Not delivered yet and not even out for delivery today. They contacted me directly from their support account yesterday to reconfirm my address. Something is going onI'm still waiting on my CE from the Nintendo store to be delivered. I'm scared of how beaten up it might have been by the delivery service.
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Confirming address could be a courier issue. Label may not have been printed right, or your address didn’t parse on their system properly meaning their system can’t add your address to the delivery route.Nintendo failing me once again. Not delivered yet and not even out for delivery today. They contacted me directly from their support account yesterday to reconfirm my address. Something is going on
It happened to me before with my Steam Deck Dock and the parcel eventually arrived in pristine condition (one day before I was due to fly abroad, too).
2 Collector's Editions and one regular edition have arrived at my home. One more Collector Edition has yet to arrive (several courier exceptions later, it's not even out for delivery anymore).
It's just the one CE for me, the rest are for my brothers and nephews.
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My CE from the Nintendo Store finally arrived
Sony hasn't really done a big PS5 showcase in a while so this will probably be massive for them. About 2 weeks before the Xbox show too so they won't drown each other out in the press and social media cycles.
For Sony they just need to show gameplay for Spider Man 2, Wolverine and the Factions multiplayer. That would probably be enough to be a very good show.
For Xbox just show gameplay of Avowed, Fable and maybe Perfect Dark. Starfield post show plus Hellblade 2 release date and their show will be very good too.
The only thing that will make one show better than the other is a megaton of some kind. Like a surprise Banjo announcement or Sony reviving an old ip.
For Sony they just need to show gameplay for Spider Man 2, Wolverine and the Factions multiplayer. That would probably be enough to be a very good show.
For Xbox just show gameplay of Avowed, Fable and maybe Perfect Dark. Starfield post show plus Hellblade 2 release date and their show will be very good too.
The only thing that will make one show better than the other is a megaton of some kind. Like a surprise Banjo announcement or Sony reviving an old ip.
It's been interesting tracking the online reception of FF7 Rebirth so far especially in contrast to 16
and it's only gone up since then, for example the FF channel version is officially over 1m by itself now. The PS channel was over 700k last I looked. Meanwhile 16 has struggled since day 1 to gain any kind of notable attention. The launch trailer from 2 weeks ago on FF's channel is only at 120k views while the PS one is ~800k. At this point it's seeming like we're gonna see some pretty lackluster week 1 sales if not outright disastrous. The game's gonna need a tremendous word of mouth push.
Ironically all the changes they've made for 16 were to get it more attention and the result so far has been the least hyped mainline FF I can remember since probably the pre PS1 days.
and it's only gone up since then, for example the FF channel version is officially over 1m by itself now. The PS channel was over 700k last I looked. Meanwhile 16 has struggled since day 1 to gain any kind of notable attention. The launch trailer from 2 weeks ago on FF's channel is only at 120k views while the PS one is ~800k. At this point it's seeming like we're gonna see some pretty lackluster week 1 sales if not outright disastrous. The game's gonna need a tremendous word of mouth push.
Ironically all the changes they've made for 16 were to get it more attention and the result so far has been the least hyped mainline FF I can remember since probably the pre PS1 days.
So the FF16 demo is going pretty good
Yoshi p may want to rethink that "no day 1 patch" bravado.
Yoshi p may want to rethink that "no day 1 patch" bravado.
After playing the Final Fantasy 16 demo the story has me hooked. The main thing holding me back is the performance. It can't maintain 60 FPS in performance mode. The demo running on an older build of the game is probably the reason, from what I have read on social media, for the performance issues but we will see if the version that comes at release will have the performance issues resolved. If not then I will probably end up waiting for the PC version.
I dusted off my PS5 to play the FF XVI demo. I tried to boot the console but it just made beep noises and did not turn on. After a few tries it finally boots up. I added FF XVI to the download queue and put the console to sleep. After a few hours, I tried to turn on the console and it crashed completely. After booting up again it said I turned off the console improperly. I had enough, I'm sending this PoS hardware to Sony for repair. It has been acting up ever since I bought it almost a year ago. Sleep mode has been always unreliable because about 70% time it crashed my console when I tried waking it up.
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There's something odd going on in here. This person got the game early and says the version is 1.00 which is even earlier than the demo and the state of play version which is 1.03 but he says there's no update available. Yoshi p has said there won't be a day 1 patch but honestly those other versions are so old they should have been updated by the team themselves and printed on the disc, yet they weren't. Or maybe they did and reset the counter to 1.00? But I've never heard of anyone doing that before.
Either way unless there is an update (and yoshi p lied) performance is looking disastrous.
There's something odd going on in here. This person got the game early and says the version is 1.00 which is even earlier than the demo and the state of play version which is 1.03 but he says there's no update available. Yoshi p has said there won't be a day 1 patch but honestly those other versions are so old they should have been updated by the team themselves and printed on the disc, yet they weren't. Or maybe they did and reset the counter to 1.00? But I've never heard of anyone doing that before.
Either way unless there is an update (and yoshi p lied) performance is looking disastrous.
There won't be a day 1 update cos you'll have to wait a month or six for the fixes, not because they aren't needed xD
Funny enough the stream they did last night kinda confirmed this. They said there were performance fixes coming and they would look into things like a motion blur toggle. No idea how long it'll take though.
How the hell can you beat your chest about no day 1 patch and the game went gold in march and then have the game launch in this state? And of course no one is going to ridicule him for this they're too busy fawning over how life changing the (20fps) demo was.
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I almost pre-ordered FF16 today, but then I realized it's honestly just all fomo, so I decided not to pre-order it.
The mario rpg remake was a real surprise but I hope it's not $60. It seems like it's a graphics only uplift and I replayed the game on the Wii VC back in the day and the game itself is fine, but it wasn't nearly as good as I remembered it being. Plus charging that much for a SNES game is a bit much these days. I mean I just got 6 GBA games from capcom for the same price.
I had to put down ff16 around the same time I did in the demo. I just find the game unplayable in its current state, both modes are horribly broken in their current states for different reasons. I have no idea how anyone can stomach the motion blur or judder but I'm genuinely envious of them.
Did anyone here send anything to Sony for repair? Because I'm baffled at how weirdly everything works. I needed my PS5 to be sent for repair, so I created a ticket on the Sony website and I already encountered an issue during the ticket creation, because I could not manually put in my address, but instead had to pick something from the pull-down box. Of course, my full address did not exist in this menu so I had to create a ticket using the wrong address and then call the Sony helpdesk to update my ticket. Also, I could not specify exactly what my issue is, there was no comment or note section, only very vague issues from drop-down menu. So after updating my ticket by calling a Sony representative, I sent the PS5 to Sony, their tracker website updates very slowly and of course contains very little and vague information. Yesterday I got an email that they received my PS5 and they will start diagnosing it, but then like 10 minutes later I got an UPS tracker from Sony saying they will deliver me a package this Friday. I got no word from Sony if their technicians actually did anything to my PS5. Did they find the issue? Did they repair it or did they send another PS5? How about my PS Plus? Will they extend it? I sent them my PS5 over 2 weeks ago. What about the warranty? Will it be extended? I don't know anything.
Launch sales are down 40% from XV, but XV was a multiplatform release and there are less PS5 consoles on the market today than PS4 and Xbox One consoles when XV launched. Also XV being a terrible game likely did no favors to the Final Fantasy brand in general.
Unfortunately those are pretty good numbers. Like I didn't want the game to catastrophically bomb or anything but I didn't want it doing this well (so far) either and reaffirming all the bad decisions yoshi p and the team made.
The last documented ps5 sales number was 38m in april so lets say 40-42m now. That's only 500k less sales than FF7R did on a ~100m install base at the time in about the same length of time (3 days for 7R vs 6 days for 16 really doesn't mean anything). The only question now is how will its legs be.
IIRC this is the biggest launch for a PS5 exclusive. God of War was crossgen. It sold less than FF7R but with the $10 higher price it probably made about the same revenue wise.
Either way I’m glad its doing well. Square actually had the balls to stand by their creatives and refused to censor the game and took a ban in regions like Saudi Arabia. Hopefully they keep including LGBT rep in future titles and don’t pussy out. I’m still mad about how they handled the Eden plotline in XIV Shadowbringers.
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Forever stuck in 720p/20fps hell
Now that the motion blur patch for FF16 is out I'm trying to play it and it still has horrendous visual clarity. The castle area that was featured in pre-release footage is still pitch black dark and all you can really see are the dozens of particle effects flying everywhere, I couldn't see myself getting hit half the time. The eikon battles are full of effects and camera shaking to the point where I can't tell what's going on. It's extremely hard to get any enjoyment out of this game.
I saw all the particles effect during the gameplay trailer and knew this game isn't for me. Cool combat doesn't need window dressing.
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Famitsu has published its estimated physical game software and hardware sales data for Japan for the week of July 17, 2023 to July 23, 2023.
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- [NSW] Pikmin 4 (Nintendo, 07/21/23) – 401,853 (New)
- [PS5] Final Fantasy XVI (Square Enix, 06/22/23) – 4,904 (401,376)
I've never played a pikmin and have no interest in it but this FF deserves all the failure it gets. To me it's on the same level as other franchise abominations like Hitman Absolution, Thi4f and Splinter Cell Conviction.Famitsu Sales: 7/17/23 – 7/23/23 [Update]
Famitsu has published its estimated physical game software and hardware sales data for Japan for the week of July 17, 2023 to July 23, 2023.
Pikmin 4's first week in Japan outsold Final Fantasy XVI's LTD.
- [NSW] Pikmin 4 (Nintendo, 07/21/23) – 401,853 (New)
- [PS5] Final Fantasy XVI (Square Enix, 06/22/23) – 4,904 (401,376)
To be fair the Switch will soon be the best selling gaming device ever in Japan so its not surprising at all. Any half decent Nintendo game will outsell a big branded PS5 exclusive at this point.Famitsu Sales: 7/17/23 – 7/23/23 [Update]
Famitsu has published its estimated physical game software and hardware sales data for Japan for the week of July 17, 2023 to July 23, 2023.
Pikmin 4's first week in Japan outsold Final Fantasy XVI's LTD.
- [NSW] Pikmin 4 (Nintendo, 07/21/23) – 401,853 (New)
- [PS5] Final Fantasy XVI (Square Enix, 06/22/23) – 4,904 (401,376)
Hopefully this Nintendo success motivates Sony to do something different next gen otherwise they will completely lose that region.
Would love to see some type of PS6 hybrid device. They need to be more creative instead of just chasing power trends.
Pikmin games are fun if you want a simplified RTS, but they're also stressful if you can't handle the cute critters dying.
That's true. The Switch's popularity gives nearly all their franchises a boost, but Final Fantasy used to be one of the powerhouse franchises in Japan and seeing it fall off so hard is kind of sad. I'm not as negative on it as Derrick01, but it is a very mixed game that ignores its roots to chase a mythical wider audience which may or may not exist.
If the route japan chooses is low spec handhelds that's on them, the rest of the world is much bigger and should not be punished for one region making (imo) a bad choice. Right now most leaks and reasonable guesses based on where handheld power is has switch 2 as being roughly on par with the steam deck, which itself is about on par with a base ps4. They're going to release a base ps4 in 2024...11 years after it launched. and we'll be stuck with it for 6+ years just like with switch 1. Nearly 20 years of ps4 level capability. That is absolutely brutal.
Nintendo can get away with this because what they do does not affect the industry at large. They operate on their own and most multiplat games don't even release on their systems because they're always so far behind. If sony were to do this it would completely upend the entire industry and affect how games are made for xbox and PC as well. It's not worth it just to save one region who chose to be behind the times.
That's quite a narrow-minded assessment of why Switch is so popular in Japan.
You only need to look at the housing situation over there, fuelled by failures of the older generation and inflicted as punishment on the millennials and younger, to see that owning a games console in Japan costs more than just the console itself and the TV to hook it up to. Tokyo is one of the most expensive and densely-populated cities in the world. Much of urban Japan outside of Tokyo is only marginally better.
When cost of living is high and the population is dense, you find people tend to live in cupboards.
Some people live in apartments so small they can't even close the toilet door when taking a dump because their knees stick out. Things we take for granted like cooking, rooms with functions and having a TV are just not possible when your bedroom is your living room and your kitchen and your bathroom and your entrance.
Switch struck a chord not because of some failure of the Japanese games-buying public to embrace new hardware, but because they can't afford (or even get) a place big enough to put a full-sized console setup.
Other viable options are now cropping up. Steam Deck is looking good in Japan, and gaming laptops are getting more and more popular as people try to get a better experience than the Switch. But there's still only so much you can cram into a device with a battery and unless Japan's gerontocracy-caused social dysfunction suddenly gets fixed overnight, we're not going to see the primary game-buying public be in a position to own hardware like PS5 or full-sized gaming PC.
That said, you are right insofar as Sony won't be copying the Switch anytime soon. They've made an assessment that the Japanese market is not worth chasing at the expense of the rest of the world, but the reason the Japanese market is that way is complex, goes beyond the tastes of the gaming population, and affects all sorts of other things too (like the birthrate).
Ok I was a bit harsh on japan there but regardless I maintain it would be an absolute disaster for the industry if sony were to make some ultra low power hybrid system. The entire industry as we know it would collapse and we'd effectively move the tech standard back 6-10 years.
The power chase every gen feels like a giant waste to me. Reggie talked about the red ocean a while back when he worked at Nintendo and I think he was very right. The consoles becoming more powerful and cost more to make/sell. The big games people have been playing these last 3 or 4 years have been cross gen. Nothing is really using the power. The big AAAA next gen stuff cost so much money to make and takes so long to develop its not really worth it long term anymore imo. If the Switch 2 is powerful enough to be in the Deck range it will run/play a lot of the big games for the next 10 years. Lets be real there is nothing mindblowing this gen. We are all still mostly playing PS4 games. The fact that the Deck is able to now play PS5 exclusives means the Switch 2 will be in great shape.
I'm not saying Sony should completely abandon big budget cinematic games that they rarely release but they should definitely think of some type of hybrid PS6 solution so they don't lose Japanese gamers. Chasing a small handful of big budget games and GaaS for the next 10 years is gonna make their output depressing. And if it results in completely losing a region like Japan its not worth it imo. Sony needs to be more creative. Even if they can't do a pure hybrid device they should still consider some type of separate handheld for that market. Or maybe they can do a hybrid PS6 for the launch and mix in a powerful PS6 pro down the line for the people who are obsessed with graphics.
