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we'll be lucky to see anything from this one this yearNot Elden Ring
we'll be lucky to see anything from this one this yearNot Elden Ring
Expect not just an announcement, but a release on Steam. Along side Bloodborne 2 exclusively for PC. It will come as Bloodborne GOTY & Bloodborne 2 for $40 U.S..Why can't you guys just lie to me
In a purely trolling and ill thought-out manner, I love how this is really turning out to be GRR Martin : the game from that standpoint .we'll be lucky to see anything from this one this year
Half-Life 3which hits first? winds of winter or elden ring?
$40Expect not just an announcement, but a release on Steam. Along side Bloodborne 2 exclusively for PC. It will come as Bloodborne GOTY & Bloodborne 2 for $40 U.S..
50% off if you got all the achievements in Dark Souls PTDE.
I used to argue for higher prices. Why? Because I thought that we'd have better industry for developers and other game workers, better games and less MTX.Price increase could be ok if all these companies weren't already having record profits well before COVID and lockdowns since these games come with MTX/expansions/passes whatever and those help extend the product life and profitability a lot.
Gamepass is great. Even if I just 'rent' games, I do that already with my library, so I'm happy more people can experience the joy of having your time with a game and then moving on, without any $$ regrets.I mean, Microsoft approach for next-gen is to allow as many people as possible to play games, not just rich people or the middle class.
I read through the entire thing, Idk that anyone said that.so we're calling games essential items and game pass a victim blaming cult.
like i said: no one is requiring you to like it. that doesn't make it not an option. never said the price wouldn't rise. i said its a good deal.
sure, people can consider them essential. i just don't agree, especially not combined with a day one purchase price argument. that gulf may be too wide for people to see eye to eye with me and i accept that but i'm unlikely to change my stance on it, just like they aren't.I read through the entire thing, Idk that anyone said that.
As to games being essential items... it isn't cut and dry.
Hobbies are essential to at least some level of mental health. What that hobby looks like is different for everyone. Gaming is a secondary hobby at times for me but I like that its there. I may have nature, exercise, exploring, reading, family and friend time above the 'list' regarding free time but games is on the list. Hell I'm here so of course games is on the list. For others, games are much are higher the list and that's ok. To them it is an essential mental health item, even before the physical distancing we've all been doing.
They're not always essential for sure.sure, people can consider them essential. i just don't agree, especially not combined with a day one purchase price argument. that gulf may be too wide for people to see eye to eye with me and i accept that but i'm unlikely to change my stance on it, just like they aren't.
oh and apologies, game pass was compared to being punched in the mouth. not sure that's any more reasonable.
Hmm, at ~30€ I'm a bit tempted again.Control is out and it has a 20% launch discount!
$10 isn't $30 and to some people it is nothing.sure, that's fine and i can agree that games can make our lives better. that doesn't really have much effect on my feelings on day one pricing of games being $10 more.
Just be warned that my key hasn't arrived yet.Edit: it seems it's now [UWSL]€26.69[/UWSL] on cdkeys.com
Dude, that was an example to point out the flaw in your logic. I never compared it to that, we both know that's asinine.oh and apologies, game pass was compared to being punched in the mouth. not sure that's any more reasonable.
and it also may be that i'm not good at articulating myself, that's been the case before. that's part of why i made that post about options. to me when i say xyz is a luxury/non-essential i don't think "you dont need to have this" but more "you can wait to have this if you don't like the launch cost".$10 isn't $30 and to some people it is nothing.
I think that for some its 'the principal of the matter', so I get that. For others its a material matter and we should be understanding of that.
You're entitled to your opinion and I've rubbed up against the majority opinion here a lot and I've gotten push back too, no worries.
i was being a bit silly but not making it obvious so i apologize there. i do see that there are reasons to not like game pass, that's cool. everyone has their reasons to dislike whatever. but there are also people it does work for and to me it's just presenting another option in the world of pricing, same as pirating is another option.Dude, that was an example to point out the flaw in your logic. I never compared it to that, we both know that's asinine.
I don't want to get on your case and we agree more often than not, especially in the Apple thread but you're really not doing the points I made justice there.
Thanks. I do agree that gamepass can be a fantastic option, especially if you are an enthusiast that buys many "one shot" games a month. I just think it's not the solution to the pricing problem, rather a temporary escape that can (and I think, as Durante pointed out, will) be taken away... Leaving us with the same problems as before.i was being a bit silly but not making it obvious so i apologize there. i do see that there are reasons to not like game pass, that's cool. everyone has their reasons to dislike whatever. but there are also people it does work for and to me it's just presenting another option in the world of pricing, same as pirating is another option.
i don't blame anyone for not liking game pass but it's not really a scourge of the industry, just another option for consumption. one that doesn't appeal to everyone, same as all the other options.
Yeah Control with a 20% discount making it £28 is tempting me.
Yeah Control with a 20% discount making it £28 is tempting me.
Nice. makes it £23.79 for me so im going to get it there. Cheers for the heads up.I see that Control Ultimate edition is 32% off on GMG. I’m Gold VIP or whatever so your discount might be different.
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28 Euro on GMG. I'm bronze level
i guess that is another gulf of opinon i didn't consider. i am very much a "consume game, move on" type for most of these titles other than a couple of old old games i keep roms for or a driving/sports/service game. in both my digital and physical life i am about as anti-clutter as it gets.Thanks. I do agree that gamepass can be a fantastic option, especially if you are an enthusiast that buys many "one shot" games a month. I just think it's not the solution to the pricing problem, rather a temporary escape that can (and I think, as Durante pointed out, will) be taken away... Leaving us with the same problems as before.
Not even anI'm totally with this alternative approach, but while you pick up the kalashnikovs I want to make an unrelated note that PH3 already operates basically like a co-op (as much as possible within the current economic framework, that is, we don't have employees, just co-owners).
Yep. The use case that really soured me on GP and the debates surrounding it was FS2020. That game is a multi-year platform for many DLCs and expansions, it's simply not a good fit for a sub service if you don't buy much else. Yet people argued to just get it there when I pointed out pricing problems with it. You can see how that tends to make someone go from shrugging with a "meh, not for me" to "just stop it with this thing, it's not the solution".i guess that is another gulf of opinon i didn't consider. i am very much a "consume game, move on" type for most of these titles other than a couple of old old games i keep roms for or a driving/sports/service game. in both my digital and physical life i am about as anti-clutter as it gets.
and i do expect the price to go up. i'm currently on the $15/month plan and i expect the price for pc to at least double to $10, there's a reason they call beta now heh. but like i said earlier, the price on everything goes up so it won't be a shock to me.
but i also think ms knows that this is a precarious path and every company in the universe wants your $X a month so they will be obliged to keep it reasonable for that reason. it's not a deal after the price goes too high for most. maybe a misguided thought? perhaps.
Actually we have 3 people who are pretty geeky programmers ... and no one drinks coffee. Wild stuff I know.Not even anslaveintern you can easily abuse? Who makes you guys coffee then?
Not sure what's to complain about, $10 of your purchase goes to the EGS shopping cart devs
those savings are gonna trickle down any day now ... i can feel it!
(I do drink tea, but I make it myself )
Capitalism (TM)Why on earth is Hitman 3 Deluxe £25 extra for what essentially boils down to an item pack??
And damn that EGS voucher I still have doesn't work on pre orders
it's also $10€ more expensive on PC, because they don't have to pay the 30% volvo taxWhy on earth is Hitman 3 Deluxe £25 extra for what essentially boils down to an item pack??
It all started with horse armourWhy on earth is Hitman 3 Deluxe £25 extra for what essentially boils down to an item pack??
And damn that EGS voucher I still have doesn't work on pre orders
Well, so far not a bad predictionIt's 40€
It's going to feature an in-page streaming with gameplay/dev comments(?)
Potentially featuring an in-front page banner
And MAAAAAAAAAAAAAYBE a 10% launch discount
Ah bollocks! I overpaid by £1.40 through GMG ) My bargain hunting days are over as I'm too senile to check all the stores with special subscriber discounts.36% off at Humble if you are a sub
Buy Control Ultimate Edition from the Humble Store
for service or long term games it's more of a trial type of thing imo. i personally don't have a problem buying the service game from ms store but i get the reasoning for those who do. same as i'd never buy an mmo on steam while others insist every game needs to be from there.Yep. The use case that really soured me on GP and the debates surrounding it was FS2020. That game is a multi-year platform for many DLCs and expansions, it's simply not a good fit for a sub service if you don't buy much else. Yet people argued to just get it there when I pointed out pricing problems with it. You can see how that tends to make someone go from shrugging with a "meh, not for me" to "just stop it with this thing, it's not the solution".
I think the only thing that really scares me about subscriptions is if some products become exclusive to this business model. Otherwise it's a side option that's nice to have if it fits your needs.
(not so) fun fact: Hitman 2 with first DLC could be had for that.Why on earth is Hitman 3 Deluxe £25 extra for what essentially boils down to an item pack??
And damn that EGS voucher I still have doesn't work on pre orders