OP
Community MetaSteam | August 2021 - Openness Is Its Superpower
- Thread starter lashman
- Start date
- Status
Here come the 2021 RPGs, in release order (some are EA launches and some are EA exits):
Insane lineup, what a time to be alive.
Insane lineup, what a time to be alive.
Awesome!
I'm itching to dive in but my recent time has been co-opted by the surprise drop of CMS21 (it's so g/d good).
Wealth of riches over here.
OP
Are you still in Norway? That's a big change!Tommorrow I will be officially moving out of my parents house (it's somewhat of a big house, but registered and built like 2 apartments) and moving into my own apartment in a new city for work, so I will be living on my own for the first time. Next is to find a girlfriend as Im not that interested in living alone for a long time.
Listen to this man.
Anyone play Risk of Rain 2? I just fired it up for the first time -- died to the first boss and then decided to try joining someone else's game since I had no idea what was going on. That was INSANITY -- several of us in the game, HUGE bosses, constant mass chaos for almost a couple of hours. When I finally quit, my eyes were all dried out. Recommended.
OP
Well now I want a white model.
Ha! Jokes on you Valve, my games ain't going nowhere! I rarely leave the house so the only place my games are going are the garden and the dunny!
Co-op sessions will never be the same again... "There is one Gaming Pooper among us."
Co-op sessions will never be the same again... "There is one Gaming Pooper among us."
stir-fries are your friend. I learned that when i first lived on my own. Also, the sleeping naked things works only if your room is the perfect temperatureTommorrow I will be officially moving out of my parents house (it's somewhat of a big house, but registered and built like 2 apartments) and moving into my own apartment in a new city for work, so I will be living on my own for the first time. Next is to find a girlfriend as Im not that interested in living alone for a long time.
OP
- Thread Starter
- #1,663
yup, sounds great ... love it for the setting alone
I see what you did there.
Worked fine on win7 but what a slug to play, didn't age well.I never played San Andreas.
How is the state of the game currently on PC?
The thought of being able to play Halo Master Chief Collection in the comfort of my own bed makes the Steam Deck even more enticing.
I keep playing Garden Story and I'm still linking it, just beat the second boss and while the game has a laid back feel the combat is not something that you'll want to mash as the game has a stamina bar so timing your attacks to not miss is advisable.
For now!
I hope...
I'm saying that as a non gamepass user but it would be a killer app for the device, having gamepass on Steam
Thought it was neat that Scarlet Nexus advertised the user score in the banner
There's some BluRay rips with subs out there pretty easy to find, if you know where to look or know someone who does
Last edited:
Wolfire vs Dark Catt on who can sue Valve in behalf of developers.
Seems like they might want cases separated so it can be ruled that developers would've passed all savings to customers but also kept it at same time
Seems like they might want cases separated so it can be ruled that developers would've passed all savings to customers but also kept it at same time
She ended up getting motion sickness from the boat. I see it's still a thing, lol.
As someone who isn't even enjoying "normal" Twitch watching... Technology has gone too far. I demand an instant rollback to the dark ages.
Maybe we'll do better next time.
I love how its says 'features you'd expect'
OP
- Thread Starter
- #1,678
OP
OP
Just watched this vid.....
Makes the game look like a lot of fun. I know lots of people think SC is a scam but im really hopeful they can pull it off eventually. If so it'll be an amazing game.
Makes the game look like a lot of fun. I know lots of people think SC is a scam but im really hopeful they can pull it off eventually. If so it'll be an amazing game.
BedBananas is amazing. It bears mentioning that he did touch the footage in that he added sound effects where there are none but his prison escape movie is just pure gold.
As for people thinking SC is a scam, I don't know that there's any way to cure stupid. It's just Gamers™ and the game is speaking for itself, year after year.
Aimbots are in real life now
Also i finished HEavy Rain, i liked that story and it really is good purchase for 5-10$.
Also i finished HEavy Rain, i liked that story and it really is good purchase for 5-10$.
That looks like it's coming together into a full game, but that doesn't mean it isn't a money sink. It can be both
It shouldn't be and I don't think it is, not the way you'd think.
Nobody needs anything more than the starter ship. Most people who buy ships do so to support the project and it's actually extremely wasteful in terms of value. You earn all of them in-game and ships are but the starting point to have fun doing what you actually want rather than the ships being the goals themselves.
I think the game IS coming but I do think its also a kind of scam.
Specifically a scam where the idea is to maintain incoming money over as long a period of time as is possible while also slowly and deliberatly expanding the scope of the game so you never actually have to deliver a complete product and turn off the ongoing/endless money tap.
Some of us might have had jobs where at specific times and for specific reasons we think, "wow I could do this forever." I think for some of the Star Citizen leadership this is one of those jobs that you could do forever and also where you can also maintain control over incoming money.
Its either that or the leadership are all beyond useless at maintaing control over a project and need to GTFO.
So Epic contracts are exploitative by this definition or i am reading something wrong?
wait a minute , it took him this long to notice this? But only selectively ?
There are quite numerous differences between Epic's agreement and this one, most important being the fact that you retain the rights of your product in all this process while the other transfers the rights to the holder company.
At the same time, you need to pay for development at certain point while Epic is not like that, in terms of 50/50, it is similar, yes.
If it's exploitative or not I won't discuss as I never had to sign a similar deal in my life.
In more positive news!
this comes in addition to Boyfriend Dungeon success too!
Epic paying late is exploitative, but the advance payment is nothing special in the videogame industry and elsewhere.
That's also why I was worried about developers, because people clearly have no idea how contracts and money work. If you don't meet your numbers, Epic is not going to pay you a dollar more (and it actually makes sense, of course I assume they didn't expect 95% of their deals to end up like this)... and once you've burned through your advance, you are fucked.
I also hoped that Epic wouldn't actually have set terms in the contract about paying back the money given if numbers did not pan out as expected... but I guess they didn't (because again, people don't understand money nor know how to read a contract - I've seen that happen because sales would obviously be fine... until they weren't, and 0 current revenue also turned into debts to repay).
But I saw so many devs and players clamoring for "taking the money and making bank", while completely ignoring that a studio is a lot of upkeep and the next game ain't gonna be ready anytime soon.
And as said, Epic doesn't even take your rights away like 100% of the videogame industry since it ever existed. An EGS deal is still much better than anything in the last 40 years for everyone involved!
Welcome to capitalism, they have all the cards in hands and you can't do shit? That's how the world has worked for centuries.
That's also why I was worried about developers, because people clearly have no idea how contracts and money work. If you don't meet your numbers, Epic is not going to pay you a dollar more (and it actually makes sense, of course I assume they didn't expect 95% of their deals to end up like this)... and once you've burned through your advance, you are fucked.
I also hoped that Epic wouldn't actually have set terms in the contract about paying back the money given if numbers did not pan out as expected... but I guess they didn't (because again, people don't understand money nor know how to read a contract - I've seen that happen because sales would obviously be fine... until they weren't, and 0 current revenue also turned into debts to repay).
But I saw so many devs and players clamoring for "taking the money and making bank", while completely ignoring that a studio is a lot of upkeep and the next game ain't gonna be ready anytime soon.
And as said, Epic doesn't even take your rights away like 100% of the videogame industry since it ever existed. An EGS deal is still much better than anything in the last 40 years for everyone involved!
Welcome to capitalism, they have all the cards in hands and you can't do shit? That's how the world has worked for centuries.
Well, yeah! It's been that way since 3.0, 3 and a half years ago give or take iirc. You could fly them in Arena Commander before that with REC, a currency you earned with it as well. There is a caveat though : some ships are rare in-lore and not sold in shops (Vanduul Scythe for example) and overall ships added in a patch can be bought in-game only in the following patch. The prices in-game are pretty damn cheap though. Hercules is 5mil, for example.
kafiend there's not much I can say but as you disclosed, this is all pretty much your opinion. I can find no fact to back it up and I've followed this project since pretty much the start. I also personally applaud the ambition they have in trying to do things right. That's not for everyone, and I would never encourage anyone to back if they aren't okay with CIG's approach. Still, the roadmap points clearly to release being the goal, if only for Squadron 42.
Honestly this all is pretty depressing for me to read considering that every decision I've seen them make has been to try and do right by the backers and the project. They barely have any crunch, they value QA, they have a hugely positive culture from what we can see and they communicate both successes and failures in postmortems. They are pushing innovation when games have rarely been as stagnant and formulaic. They are trying while the AAA majors are just milking. The industry could learn a thing or two from them. Seeing them criticized on nothing more than hearsay and gamer consensus is disheartening.
Edit : in more uplifting news, this is a thing. I like that thing. I want that thing.
Last edited:
Capitalism exploits labour and is normalized to extreme degrees in creative fields. Epic just likes to make all of this public.
- Status