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It's really sad that I'm more hopeful for day 1 Atlus PC versions vs Square who keeps making bad business decisions. That's 2020 for you.
Yup. Cyberpunk? Half life 4? Not a single fck was given that day.
Asian 'representation' in cyberpunk stems from a fear the West (ie the US) had for Japan, they thought they would dominate the world (ie them). They thought they would become ubiquitous. You can even see this in back Back to the Future Part 2, where a Japanese boss fires Marty.
At the same time, there was also wonder, the fascination with the exotic and new. Japan to a large extent in its specific culture, and Asia in a more vague, fuzzy way, was very appealing in its new set of values and ways of looking at life.
It's not always all bad.
That would be fine if the Japanese government hadnt used its media for propaganda purposes. There's tons of people who think the samurai were honorable when they were pretty much ruthless mercenaries.
Cybepunk Eurogamer reviewer in the comments :
ChrisTapsellEG (Staff) 7 hours ago
ChrisTapsellEG (Staff) 7 hours ago
| @Lexkalin It's extremely CPU-heavy on the performance front. I'm on an i5-9400F, it's passable on a mix of medium/high at 1080p, aiming for 30fps, dipping a fair bit below that with high-speed driving and population-dense areas. No expert on this though and CDPR did specifically say this build is "not for benchmarking" because performance is part of the content of the upcoming patch. So who knows, maybe the day 0 patch will indeed have a positive effect on the framerate. But the buggy as hell talking point seen everywhere is worrying, too. |
Very much agreed. Children of Morta was one of my favourite rougue-lites.
Swords of Ditto is somewhat similar in how much carries over, though it's different in structure (since it actually requires quite a few playthroughs to get to the true ending).
Ok, that's a bad take. There's obviously all kinds of stories out there, and some of them certainly lean more on the entertainment side (not that there is anything inherently wrong with that). But just because they are not always the focus of the narrative and might be more implicit in the setting doesn't meant that themes such as capitalism and its effects, environmentalism, transhumanism, or even education aren't given a very interesting treatment in lots of good examples of the genre.
Much of the best science fiction is about exploring the cultural effects of technology and different societies -- and yes, also about reflecting the present in that setting to make a statement or explore our inherent assumptions and biases. But this doesn't mean that the main narrative has to explicitly deal with those topics, it can be much more interesting (and subversive, in a way) to only see their transitive effects.
I mean, I guess you could argue something like The Diamond Age (one of my favourite novels) is post-cyberpunk, but it's clearly influenced heavily by the genre, and if you think that has nothing interesting to say then I really can't help you.
So yes, if some people completely ignore that part to focus on "crazy robot people" then that very much is on them.
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I hate it when such a buggy game gets a pass from reviewers because it has insane production values. The same goes for most other AAA games. This and the whole transphobia issues surrounding CDPR and the game have soured me on the game this year. I may not be affected by their transphobia views, but the way they're handling it has been pathetic showing and they've lost all my respect. I'm seriously thinking about refunding it for now and buy it cheap much later. What a turnaround for CDPR, they went from the well-loved studio since The Witcher 3 launch to this. As a huge fan of them, I'm totally devastated.
Yeah I'm considering refunding it too. The whole CDPR situation rubs me the wrong way but the game itself also looks like it'll be a buggy mess at launch and I doubt my old ass hardware will be able to run it well. Might refund and preorder Persona 5 Strikers instead and buy CP2077 when a GOTY edition comes out next year and drops in price or something. I don't wanna end up wasting $80CAD.
(also yes I know P5S isnt out until the end of Feb but I dont have a lot of free gamer cash these days and usually when I do its only $20~ so id rather use the $80 I have on a game I actually know ill get my money's worth from. If I spend it CP2077 now and dont have money when P5S eventually does come out i'll have some serious regret. Unemployment is cringe.)
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Buy Hades if you dont own it. Supergiant actually cares about their employees.
They do bring up the DRM. it could have been closer to the top, but it's not like they try to hide it. It'll get them clicks, so they succeeded.
I'm less interested in performance and more interested in other aspects of the game - like how it handles its subject matter, and how the game mechanics work. At this point, it better release to the public as smooth as freshly cleaned ice. There is no excuse given its dev time and the crippling crunch
I actually bought Hades when it first came to Steam. Pyre was the only game from them I didn’t own so a free copy of it + a good launch discount was hard to say no to.
Say goodnight vtubers, a new queen is in town
I love when the internet jumps directly into the weird shit. The entire stream setup is stunning.
I love when the internet jumps directly into the weird shit. The entire stream setup is stunning.
I think they should patch this out. Even normal people would find this uncomfortable.
I'm expecting the vanilla 2013 console Cyberpunk versions to be such a mess. I don't think any reviewers touched those versions too. If a 1060 on PC is only able to do 1080p40fps on medium then yikes.
Those PS4/X1 versions will probably be Skyrim PS3 levels until CDPR puts out several patches lmao. I kind of feel bad too because people were preordering the game on the old consoles for a long time. Last year when I bought Death Stranding for PS4 at gamestop...everyone at the register was begging me to preorder Cyberpunk. Its gonna be such an awful way to experience the game because at least with PC you can tinker settings to achieve 30 or 60. Dropping a few settings in W3 from high to medium/low was the difference between running the game at 70/80 fps vs 120 iirc.
Those PS4/X1 versions will probably be Skyrim PS3 levels until CDPR puts out several patches lmao. I kind of feel bad too because people were preordering the game on the old consoles for a long time. Last year when I bought Death Stranding for PS4 at gamestop...everyone at the register was begging me to preorder Cyberpunk. Its gonna be such an awful way to experience the game because at least with PC you can tinker settings to achieve 30 or 60. Dropping a few settings in W3 from high to medium/low was the difference between running the game at 70/80 fps vs 120 iirc.
I think I am going to pre-order Cyberpunk on Steam since they said there would be exclusive stuff like avatars and with Steam new system I hope that means animated Steam avatars.
By the way do you still get Steam Points by redeeming Steam gift cards?
Also there was a new Steam update and the DS now works over BT on Steam.
Also CP2077 will have some GOG exclusive content.
When will Marvelous announce SoS PoOT for PC?
By the way do you still get Steam Points by redeeming Steam gift cards?
Also there was a new Steam update and the DS now works over BT on Steam.
Also CP2077 will have some GOG exclusive content.
When will Marvelous announce SoS PoOT for PC?
Alright that microsoft point reward thingie, doing the things between the web and on xbox it seems one can get 600ish points per day and a 5€ gift card is only 4600 points, one can rack them up quite quickly!
Not much to it, you just have to use bing a lot haha.Teach me?
I did four activities and it only gave 40 measly points. How do I get 600 ish points?
You have to login every dayI did four activities and it only gave 40 measly points. How do I get 600 ish points?
You have to do the activities, then you can do searches which give you 3 points per search, I do that on my computer and on my phone, that's 90 + 120 points and then you unlock points on the xbox app and then in the rewards app on xbox.I did four activities and it only gave 40 measly points. How do I get 600 ish points?
Don't pretty much all video games have epilepsy warning screens?
I'm always scared I might develop/discover a condition like this, I'd need to find a new hobby cos no way I'd risk a seizure just to play games.
Sure, but deliberately copying a sequence of flashes and lights that is designed to trigger a seizure is irresponsible. I'd even say it is righteous stupid.
The headset fits over both eyes and features a rapid onslaught of white and red blinking LEDs, much like the actual device neurologists use in real life to trigger a seizure when they need to trigger one for diagnosis purposes
As long as they have the epilepsy warning screen, I don't see the problem with epilepsy triggers being in. Why warn otherwise? If as an epileptic you choose to go against warnings because you've found that many games don't actually trigger you the risk is yours to take but it doesn't seem smart nor does it seem like the devs are at fault. I dunno why he stresses the headset fitting over both eyes and such, you're viewing it on a flat screen, you choose the brightness and the lights in the rest of your home environment and everything, they're not forcing you to wear a headset to play the game obviously. And he hasn't even verified if the lights are actually in fact copied from those machines or it's just random flashes they chose that had the same effect, I don't see why they'd research that at all. That would be an interesting tidbit of information but wouldn't really change my opinion of the issue. In that it isn't one. So, sure, let the information get out, in that the game is most certainly likely to trigger epileptics in this and possibly other instances, but beyond that, eh, duh? It seems like it should be expected. Don't do shit against what your doctors advice and common sense if you want to be well is the general rule of thumb for most folks, regardless of conditions.
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I wonder when MS brings that reward program to Finland. Sweden and Norway has it, what the hell Phil. 
I do and I'm rather surprised you don't.
Epilepsy warnings are common in games because certain combinations of lights, colors and sounds can trigger a seizure. Still, most developers are careful to not go all in and to avoid certain things in their games. Those warnings are still there to avoid legal responsibility.
That's a huge difference to the approach CDPR is doing here. Instead of avoiding and telling people to be careful because things might still get bad, they are deliberately imitating a known method to trigger a seizure. It is potentially dangerous and therefore irresponsible.
Plus a digital comic
Don't think so but I'm not entirely sure.
Yes, even japanese media is echoing this, good thing to make the platform more appealing to the japanese users.
In my honest opinion, I think they will release everything everywhere within a few months as free DLC, so I wouldn't worry.
Not this year, that's for sure.
Well I explain why in the rest of my post (I didn't say deliberate triggers after all, just that, as you say, flashing lights can do that). Feel free to disagree.
Also, again, the dude has not verified if they copy that method, all he knows is he got a seizure and the machine kinda looks like those machines. Reaching, atm.
While stressing how it goes over your head and covers your eyes and shit which is a ridiculous thing to stress for something you view on a screen but yeah.
Also, again, the dude has not verified if they copy that method, all he knows is he got a seizure and the machine kinda looks like those machines. Reaching, atm.
While stressing how it goes over your head and covers your eyes and shit which is a ridiculous thing to stress for something you view on a screen but yeah.
I can't wait to see console player reaction to Cyberpunk when they played it on PS4/Xbox
By the wording I think it'll come to PC day one and to other consoles 2 years later at minimum.
That is correct, Athia is coming day one to PC alongside PS5.
Final Fantasy XVI is, most likely, 12 months exclusive on PS5 so we will have to wait until it comes to PC, pretty much like FF7R
That new of DRM affecting performance is a relief. It did seem a little on the low side for me, so we will see!
As for them getting a pass for bugs, it depends on the outlet. Overall, I feel the problem is being brought up and the marks of many reflect it. I don't think that bugs that are not F76-bad deserve to tank the game's score that heavily, but it is definitively a valid point. It is a product that we pay good money for after all.
As for them getting a pass for bugs, it depends on the outlet. Overall, I feel the problem is being brought up and the marks of many reflect it. I don't think that bugs that are not F76-bad deserve to tank the game's score that heavily, but it is definitively a valid point. It is a product that we pay good money for after all.
Rumors said XVI is 6 months full exclusive and 12 months console exclusive.
I was speaking about the early books that people refer to as "Cyberpunk", so the "Sprawl trilogy",and a few other lesser known novels around the same time. I also learned a lot about the old Cyberpunk (pen and paper) RPGs from stuff like Spoony's Counter Monkey series, back when he still semi-regularly had interesting content.
And I feel my assessment for those books and RPGs, is maybe a bit harsh, but not unfair at al. I certainly can't comment on what people have done with the genre and ideas in the decades after that, I lost interest in following books of that kind after my experiences with those earlier books. And I'm not saying you couldn't make actually interesting stories in those worlds.
I'm just saying a lot of the classic works, those that spawned ideas like "jacking in" to a computer, and cyberspace etc, those aren't really about complex topics at all. It's the flashy, exotic future that interests the writer and supposed to entice the reader as well, anything else is an afterthought.
I see where you are going with this and I think I get what you are saying. At the same time, is there something wrong with that?
As someone who is dipping into writing as well, a lot of it starts with fascination at an image, an idea. "Wouldn't it be cool if?" Then you extrapolate and figure out the implications. I think everything doesn't start off as, or has to be, a deep philosophical essay.
It's fair to say that some works in the Cyberpunk field aren't that, but I'd argue they don't need to be. Still, the most memorable ones for me tend to be at least thought-provoking, often in the norms and daily life that they present like Snow Crash, from which the social commentary tends to flow from naturally.
I'd argue it's a bit of a mistake to see Cyberpunk and to a larger extent sci-fi as genres that exist solely as a vehicle to social commentary or deep philosophical messages, as genres whose purpose and mode of creation would be that. I see them more as people doing what it says on the tin, dreaming and thinking about visions of the future, and pulling on the threads that they come up with to see what they might look like.
Not sure whether this post makes sense, I'm still tired
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Oh, no, don't take that as me saying any of those works are bad. I like the first Neuromancer, it's as flashy and cool as the written word can ever hope to be. That first line is iconic:I see where you are going with this and I think I get what you are saying. At the same time, is there something wrong with that?
As someone who is dipping into writing as well, a lot of it starts with fascination at an image, an idea. "Wouldn't it be cool if?" Then you extrapolate and figure out the implications. I think everything doesn't start off as, or has to be, a deep philosophical essay.
It's fair to say that some works in the Cyberpunk field aren't that, but I'd argue they don't need to be. Still, the most memorable ones for me tend to be at least thought-provoking, often in the norms and daily life that they present like Snow Crash, from which the social commentary tends to flow from naturally.
I'd argue it's a bit of a mistake to see Cyberpunk and to a larger extent sci-fi as genres that exist solely as a vehicle to social commentary or deep philosophical messages, as genres whose purpose and mode of creation would be that. I see them more as people doing what it says on the tin, dreaming and thinking about visions of the future, and pulling on the threads that they come up with to see what they might look like.
Not sure whether this post makes sense, I'm still tired
"The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel."
It's up there with 1984's "The clock strikes thirteen" in terms of how effective it is. I'm just saying I don't believe those early works are super deep or anything.
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Please announce Ishin and Kenzan localisation 
The whole epileptic fiasco is one thing, but those that send these videos should face legal consequences.
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