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Swenhir

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The thing that stuns me is how comparatively small the game is on the drive. In a world where games occupying 100+gb is becoming commonplace, Night City has no right being this tiny.
 
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Mivey

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The thing that stuns me is how comparatively small the game is on the drive. In a world where games occupying 100+gb is becoming commonplace, Night City has no right being this tiny.
How much space does it take up on disk?
 
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Wok

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TIl you can apparently unequip a jetpack in Spelunky 2 by pressing [Down] and [Enter door button]. I need to try that next time.
 

Swenhir

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Yeah, I've seen people chide members that got a little too insistent in their questioning of insiders before so it's kinda weird to me to see no one batting an eye when a rando shows up seemingly for the sole purpose of probing into rumors...
I find the hostility toward the "rando" a little more disturbing. Queen doesn't have to share anything she doesn't want to, and that's fair, but one is also allowed to ask for receipts before drinking her words.
 
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toxicitizen

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I find the hostility toward the "rando" a little more disturbing. Queen doesn't have to share anything she doesn't want to, and that's fair, but one is also allowed to ask for receipts before drinking her words.
Not sure what part of my post you could possibly construe as hostile, tbh. I don't think it's hostile to point out that joining a community solely to play detective is a little off-putting. Then again, maybe that's just me. 🤷‍♂️

And just to be perfectly clear here, my post had nothing to do with Queen. I'm not "defending" her rumors or anything silly like that. Personally, I have no reason to doubt her at this point but some of the rumors are a little too wild for me to just blindly believe. Most fall in the "I'll believe it when I see it" category.
 

Swenhir

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Not sure what part of my post you could possibly construe as hostile, tbh. I don't think it's hostile to point out that joining a community solely to play detective is a little off-putting. Then again, maybe that's just me. 🤷‍♂️

And just to be perfectly clear here, my post had nothing to do with Queen. I'm not "defending" her rumors or anything silly like that. Personally, I have no reason to doubt her at this point but a lot of the rumors are a little too wild for me to just blindly believe. Most fall in the "I'll believe it when I see it" category.
You just said it yourself : you are accusing him of having joined for the sole purpose of figuring out Queen's identity. I hope you can see how that comes across as a little hostile toward him.

Consider the opposite perspective, where he's just a BB fan who would like to know the real likelihood of those rumors being true, to know whether there was any more substance to them than "trust me". Being accused of the things you just did doesn't exactly come across as friendly. What also bothers me is that this line of thought leads down a path where we aren't allowed to ask any questions, and that to me is a lot more off-putting. I think MC is founded on the idea of us all being equals.

That being said, yeah, I definitively see where you are coming from. I think that Queen would be right to share absolutely nothing that would uniquely identify her in this instance. Innocent until proven guilty, but she also doesn't owe anyone anything.

Edit : typos. I'm done adding thoughts :p.
 
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Myradeer

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Looks like I missed the drama, but I feel good position to take in regards to the leaks is to just assume it to have same value as random rumour. Something that would be nice if true, but not something to be so invested in, such that one's compelled to take actions to actually justify its veracity or berate leaker for information turning out to be inaccurate.
 

toxicitizen

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You just said it yourself : you are accusing him of having joined for the sole purpose of figuring out Queen's identity.

Dude, fucking what? No, I never said anything of the sort. What the fuck are you talking about?

I'm not sure if you're deliberately putting words in my mouth or just reading things between the lines that aren't there but between that and the weird slippery slope argument you went into, I'm honestly not sure how to even respond to this...
 

Stevey

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Dude, fucking what? No, I never said anything of the sort. What the fuck are you talking about?

I'm not sure if you're deliberately putting words in my mouth or just reading things between the lines that aren't there but between that and the weird slippery slope argument you went into, I'm honestly not sure how to even respond to this...
I think they meant integrity
 

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Consider the opposite perspective, where he's just a BB fan who would like to know the real likelihood of those rumors being true, to know whether there was any more substance to them than "trust me". Being accused of the things you just did doesn't exactly come across as friendly. What also bothers me is that this line of thought leads down a path where we aren't allowed to ask any questions, and that to me is a lot more off-putting. I think MC is founded on the idea of us all being equals.
Personally speaking, I really don't doubt Queen, partly out of respect and partly because of the research I've done prior leads me to believe that there's salt to the stuff she says. At the same time, though, I really don't think that some thorough factchecking and verification of information hurts. I'm honestly really interested to hear his findings given he seems to have been given information we're not privy to.
 
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Swenhir

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Dude, fucking what? No, I never said anything of the sort. What the fuck are you talking about?

I'm not sure if you're deliberately putting words in my mouth or just reading things between the lines that aren't there but between that and the weird slippery slope argument you went into, I'm honestly not sure how to even respond to this...
First, sorry, you're right and you didn't say that. That was too much of me to say, I was reasoning along the lines of attempting to figure out where the leaks came from with malicious intent, which to me leads to the place of identifying her. You said "play detective work" and left it at that.

I'm not out to get you, or to get into a verbal fistfight. I just think that giving him the benefit of the doubt would be the right and kind thing to do.

I think they meant integrity
Thanks but he's right, this was me making a logical leap that he did not meant.
 

toxicitizen

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First, sorry, you're right and you didn't say that. That was too much of me to say, I was reasoning along the lines of attempting to figure out where the leaks came from with malicious intent, which to me leads to the place of identifying her. You said "play detective work" and left it at that.

I'm not out to get you, or to get into a verbal fistfight. I just think that giving him the benefit of the doubt would be the right and kind thing to do.
Fair enough.
 

fantomena

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So why exactly did CDPR put SSD as a recommended even at minimum reqs? I have the game installed on my external HDD which I have used for games since forever (will get SSDs whenever I build my next PC though) and Im not experiencing any stutters or whatever in the game, the loading even takes just around 30 seconds to to get from the main menu to in-game.

Also, Im fairly sure that the hotfix that released (today?) increased my framerate, so that's nice.
 

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So why exactly did CDPR put SSD as a recommended even at minimum reqs? I have the game installed on my external HDD which I have used for games since forever (will get SSDs whenever I build my next PC though) and Im not experiencing any stutters or whatever in the game, the loading even takes just around 30 seconds to to get from the main menu to in-game.

Also, Im fairly sure that the hotfix that released (today?) increased my framerate, so that's nice.
I haven’t taken the time but on a SSD the game loads in not even what feels like 10 seconds for me
 

fantomena

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I haven’t taken the time but on a SSD the game loads in not even what feels like 10 seconds for me
Feels weird to put SSD as min requirement if it only increases the loading speed. I was afraid I was gonna get stutters, pop-ins and other wird stuff, but no, nothing as I can see so far at least.
 
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Mivey

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Feels weird to put SSD as min requirement if it only increases the loading speed. I was afraid I was gonna get stutters, pop-ins and other wird stuff, but no, nothing as I can see so far at least.
I assume it's just that they don't test for HDDs, and don't expect you to complain until you meet every item in the min requirements.
Also, everyone should use SSDs in 2020. Cost isn't an argument if you can afford modern GPUs.
 
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fantomena

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I assume it's just that they don't test for HDDs, and don't expect you to complain until you meet every item in the min requirements.
Also, everyone should use SSDs in 2020. Cost isn't an argument if you can afford modern GPUs.
It's not about cost, it's about me not having bothered to get one yet. I did plan to get one this year, but then I thought that I would instead just build a new PC whenever RTX 3080 and the new Ryzen/Intel series arrived, but then I changed my plan as I saw that my PC still has juice left so I have decided to delay a new PC until I feel it's time for a new one.

If CP2077 can still run well on it, I think I can wait a few more months, hopefully. The next test for my PC I guess is RE8.
 
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Wildebeet

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I assume this is facetious but can’t tell for sure, but either way, I’ll believe it when I see it
Yeah I'm just making fun of the events of the last 24hrs. Who knows. Queen mentioned Diddy Kong for Xbox and Switch, which under MS' PC parity thing they're doing these days maybe sounds like it would be on PC also. Whatever that means, no idea what the game is or anything. All this is just fun speculation as far as I'm concerned. Like if I was really thaaaaat hyped on Bloodborne, I'd just buy a playstation (though I'd buy it for PC and give it a go).

And besides, I've had Nintendo on my PC since, what 2000-ish?
 

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Personally speaking, I really don't doubt Queen, partly out of respect and partly because of the research I've done prior leads me to believe that there's salt to the stuff she says. At the same time, though, I really don't think that some thorough factchecking and verification of information hurts. I'm honestly really interested to hear his findings given he seems to have been given information we're not privy to.
I relatively didn't send much one was just a screen of a msg I posted on discord back in may (leaking) kingdom's of Amalur remake and who was developing it even. (project wasnt even announced or even rumored when indid post that)

regarding Bloodborne stuff I've pretty much mentioned it since last Nov and have on record said when the tests were. and when I took part even

my info realtively doesn't. normally involve releases ornsuch normally it's either X project is coming by x Dev or something like that and I have been right 100% of the time so far and thats going on over 2 years now. hell even something relatively small like telling

lashman Mor that Guild Wars 2 was coming to steam earlier this year before it's announcement can be regarded as a leak. it only hasn't released on Steam yet because the Devs faced another round of layoffs and restructured to full steam ahead on expansion.

I ain't here to shit on anyone's parade and give them false hope of something. if I mentioned something it's because I know with extreme detail that it's happening but like I'm not privy to release info on most stuff which is where leaks can be annoying because people raise pitchforks if u say something and it doesn't materialise in 6months.

like just the other day I posted here that respawn has pitched a arpg star wars project to ea. does anyone expect that to be announced anytime soon well I'd certainly hope not but that by and large is a leak.

I just don't think most are use to things just being wildly thrown out there like I do and being accurate so far
 

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Not to get in-between the leaks conversation but is anyone else really disappointed how little the lifepaths mattered in Cyberpunk? I was so excited to be a corpo and that was gone within 10 minutes of starting the game. Such a letdown. I haven't tried Nomad or Street Kid yet, so I can't speak for those.

(Cyberpunk related)
 
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Valdien

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Not to get in-between the leaks conversation but is anyone else really disappointed how little the lifepaths mattered in Cyberpunk? I was so excited to be a corpo and that was gone within 10 minutes of starting the game. Such a letdown. I haven't tried Nomad or Street Kid yet, so I can't speak for those.

(Cyberpunk related)
Yep, the choices thus far have largely been superficial. I had Bioshock Infinite flashblacks.:sweaty-blob: Maybe there's more to it later on.
 

CommodoreKong

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I haven’t taken the time but on a SSD the game loads in not even what feels like 10 seconds for me
I only have a SATA SSD but yeah I'm surprised how fast the load times are. Usually 10 seconds or so to fast travel. Much faster than I was expecting considering the state of the rest of the game.
 
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Tizoc

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yeah ... of all the things you said so far - a lot were already announced

and again - none of it really matters all that much anyway ... it's just video games ... it's NOT that big of a deal really :p
Says the guy who spread egs fear mongering any chance they get 🛌
 
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Oy vey. I tried my best to preempt drama but it seems I still failed.

toxicitizen , Swenhir ; hard to quote single posts, so I throw this in your general direction.

Clarifications:
  • I am a "rando"; I did join for the sole purpose of digging into specific rumours. I made that clear from my very first post. (I mostly wanted to use the search function rather than start a public discussion, but it does not go far enough.)
  • As I stated, whenever a claim is made, I consider it fair game.
  • I consider fact checking a neutral endeavor, neither inherently aggressive nor friendly.
  • Regardless of the subject at hand, whether games or more "serious" things, the process of assessing truth is something I care deeply about, by inclination, training, and trade.
  • Furthermore, since in this case that process, if carried out to the end, may likely result in either 1° calling out a well-liked person on a long history lies, or 2° risking causing harm to a genuine leaker, neither of which is a trivial prospect, I am extra fastidious in how I go about it. The counterpart of "any claim is fair game" is "factchecking should be done seriously".
  • I haven't felt singular hostility from this community (including the specific post by toxicitizen) as a result of my probing. In fact, responses, even in obvious disagreement and unease, have been fairly measured and civilised (which is how I interpreted toxicitizen 's post in question). More so than I expected. I wouldn't even have tried having this conversation in ... well, literally any other place I've looked at regarding these rumors.
  • If the responses had not been measured, I have very thick skin, don't worry.
 

Alexandros

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If the responses had not been measured, I have very thick skin, don't worry.
Let's test that with a bit of honesty. I find it distasteful that you joined a new community and your first order of business was to put a member of that community into the interrogation chamber. It seems to me that there is a much easier way to find out if a rumor is true than playing amateur detective. Read what was said and wait to see if it materializes.
 

fantomena

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Let's test that with a bit of honesty. I find it distasteful that you joined a new community and your first order of business was to put a member of that community into the interrogation chamber. It seems to me that there is a much easier way to find out if a rumor is true than playing amateur detective. Read what was said and wait to see if it materializes.
Alexandros writes harshly, but truly.
 

Gamall Wednesday Ida

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Let's test that with a bit of honesty. I find it distasteful that you joined a new community and your first order of business was to put a member of that community into the interrogation chamber. It seems to me that there is a much easier way to find out if a rumor is true than playing amateur detective. Read what was said and wait to see if it materializes.
You took my bit about "enhanced conversation" a tad too seriously, methinks.

This "interrogation" began when, in a conversation about the very subject that interests me here, I listed the potential pieces of evidence I had found on the net and not discarded, in a fairly long post. Here are the parts that concern Queen, specifically:

...What it boils down to is claims by
  • here: @Queen Of Bloodborne (claim: QA tester, direct access: primary)
  • ...
I tried to evaluate the credibility of Queen by searching for post history on HZD, about which the common wisdom here seems to be that she had accurate info very early; unfortunately the search feature only goes up to 6 months it seems, so that's a bust...
I demanded nothing in this post. Queen then responded to assert her bona fide, and I explained what I consider evidence and not, etc etc. If she is in an interrogation chamber now, she walked in there of her own will.

It seems to me that there is a much easier way to find out if a rumor is true than playing amateur detective. Read what was said and wait to see if it materializes.
Doing nothing is always easier. It's also less informative. If I have a prophet claiming that someday diamonds shall rain at a specific spot, planting myself on that spot like a vegetable with a big bag and waiting.... and waiting.... and waiting .... is a strategy; I guess. Digging info about the baseline success rate of prophets in general and this one in particular, by examining how past claims match reality, and whether it is worth buying a big bag, making travel arrangements, etc, is another strategy, and the one I generally prefer. The whole point of having brains is to be occasionally ahead of reality, just a bit, instead of waiting on it.

As for the tastefulness of engaging the metaphorical prophet at all? Like I stated, twice now, in my book, when a claim is made, it is fair game. If that is not in your book, then I guess we won't be singing about friendship together at the end of this episode of My Little Pony, and that's quite alright.


edit: Retracted paragraph, both because I'm unhappy with the way I put things here in general, and because later discussions led me to believe that I may have completely missed the root of the problem.
 
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