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sprinkles

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With these rumoured prices I guess my 5700x3d / 4070 combo will be the last Desktop PC for me.
Steam Deck accounted for 80% of my play time according to the year review, so I'll stick to that when my Desktop finally dies in a few years. You can always sub for a month of GeForce Now for 20€ for single player games with cutting edge graphics.
 

Knurek

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squeenix strategy be like:

No, that's not true
Squeenix strategy be like:


According to composer and former employee Nobuo Uematsu, they moved their office based on the advice of a fortune teller named Pao’s prediction.

“[Square Enix CEO and president Yoichi] Wada took a couple of locations to a fortune teller named Pao,” said Uematsu. “Pao said the Meguro space was not going to bring any fortune to the company, and pointed to Shinjuku. That’s why he decided to move it there. I heard this directly from Wada.”
Square Enix relocating headquarters
 

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Installed Remake just for funsies (curious how it looked and played compared to on PS4) and holy hell does it look and play a lot better on my PC. Not gonna play it now (currently finishing up Shadow of Erdtree), but the difference was suprising considering the lack of graphic options on PC.
 
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Installed Remake just for funsies (curious how it looked and played compared to on PS4) and holy hell does it look and play a lot better on my PC. Not gonna play it now (currently finishing up Shadow of Erdtree), but the difference was suprising considering the lack of graphic options on PC. Rebirth.
IIRC the PC port is based on the PS5 version which was a big upgrade over PS4.
 
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Those rumored GPU prices are only pushing me more and more towards SteamDeck like devices.
Im still aiming for the rtx 5080, as I still am on 1080p, so Im pretty sure 5090 will be overkill for me even if buying a 2160p monitor.
 
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Im still aiming for the rtx 5080, as I still am on 1080p, so Im pretty sure 5090 will be overkill for me even if buying a 2160p monitor.
I am eying one of those new fancy 4k OLED screens. Although I am still researching how bad the burn-in is.


Because you must buy Nvidia? If Intel doesn't bow out you'll have more options than you've had in over a decade in the GPU space.
No, I am on AMD (RX6800) already (Linux user). My computer is starting to show its age and I am looking for new parts. It's getting hard to justify even buying a midrange GPU these days due to the price for me. It's ofcourse not the main reason, my gaming preferences have changed in the passed few years. but it is a factor and it is influencing my next build.
 

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I am eying one of those new fancy 4k OLED screens. Although I am still researching how bad the burn-in is.




No, I am on AMD (RX6800) already (Linux user). My computer is starting to show its age and I am looking for new parts. It's getting hard to justify even buying a midrange GPU these days due to the price for me. It's ofcourse not the main reason, my gaming preferences have changed in the passed few years. but it is a factor and it is influencing my next build.
Fair enough. Until I picked up a 7900xt, i'd never been anywhere near high end gpus, so the idea that people cant game on pc without the highest high end has been a weird outlook to me.
 

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These prices are kind of pathetic. I bought a 3090 with 24GB VRAM for less than $1000 for AI stuff, and now here we are years later charging 2.5x for 0.33x more VRAM, and what will probably amount to ~4x greater performance. 5 years, 2.5x the price. Moore's Law isn't just dead. Silicon gains are approaching 0.
 
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Those rumored GPU prices are only pushing me more and more towards SteamDeck like devices.
The Steam Deck is the all-encompassing device I dreamed about as a. kid. Just thinking about what can a Steam Deck 2 do, gets me excited.

The price, quality, PC games, emulation, what it did for gaming on Linux, plus it being a completely wide open platform is crazy to me. I know a lot of people are jaded by modern gaming, but for me the SD is one of the most revolutionary devices I've seen in the past 20 years.
 

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I have been sucked into both Path of Exile 2, and Tetrachroma. I am a creature with some of the tastes of all time.

Linux has been treating me better since I decided Bazzite was for the birds, and hopped to another distro, CachyOS. Hopefully I won't need to hop distro's again.
 

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Linux has been treating me better since I decided Bazzite was for the birds, and hopped to another distro, CachyOS. Hopefully I won't need to hop distro's again.
How is Linux for retro (pc) gaming? That is literally the only thing keeping me on Windows at this point. I can, for the most part install a game from Dx1-dx12 with only some slight tinkering and it'll work on Windows. My attempts with Linux when I was bigger into it were way more of a headache than was worth. Or is it more dependent on the distro?
 
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Bought some more crap I didn't really need.

Also re: PC talk. I'm pretty happy with my system right now. I was going to get a PS5 Pro at some point but I'm going to just put that money towards a 6XXX card in 2026/7. I also use my Steam Deck hooked up to my TV for indie games and remote play and it works out pretty nicely (most of the time).
 
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Unless you think you somehow need a high-end Nvidia GPU to play PC games, I am not sure what would make you think that. Especially now that Intel is actually starting to produce decent mid-range GPUs.

This is also nothing new. Nvidia began this game with the original Titan GPUs, which were complete overkill, and barely worth the absurd amounts they asked for them back a decade ago.
Amusingly, I'd say that the biggest difference between the Titan GPUs a decade ago and the 90 series now is that the 90 series GPUs are actually better value.
 
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Total was 1500€. Which would have built a banger pc back in the day. I’m sure I could build a reasonable pc for that today too. Just not one that would be as good for work nor games s I get now with two separate systems.
I think a lot of people are stuck in the period between 2010 and 2016 (I wonder what happened after that) where PCs were actually a bigger bang for the buck and you could build a computer that destroyed consoles for a small premium over the console price. I certainly did, I spent 30% more of the price of the PS4 in 2015 with a i5 4400 and a 750Ti that shat on the PS4 from the 69th floor. That money wouldn't even buy you a good GPU right now.
 

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Bought some more crap I didn't really need.

Also re: PC talk. I'm pretty happy with my system right now. I was going to get a PS5 Pro at some point but I'm going to just put that money towards a 6XXX card in 2026/7. I also use my Steam Deck hooked up to my TV for indie games and remote play and it works out pretty nicely (most of the time).
Lost Judgment mentioned...


(don't read the comments / look at recommended videos for spoilers)
 

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Total was 1500€. Which would have built a banger pc back in the day. I’m sure I could build a reasonable pc for that today too. Just not one that would be as good for work nor games s I get now with two separate systems.
In my opinion, the issue with GPU pricing mostly affects the budget segment since we've had no good entry-level GPUs for a while now. When you get to the 1500€ range I think that the choice of hardware or platform is much more about personal preference (meaning, what works for you and fits better in your life) than any actual budget limitations. I struggle to think of any task that a 1500€ PC would be worse at than a Mac or a Playstation.

How is Linux for retro (pc) gaming? That is literally the only thing keeping me on Windows at this point. I can, for the most part install a game from Dx1-dx12 with only some slight tinkering and it'll work on Windows. My attempts with Linux when I was bigger into it were way more of a headache than was worth. Or is it more dependent on the distro?
I don't have first-hand experience but I have heard that old games are actually easier to run on Linux through Proton than natively on Windows.
 

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In my opinion, the issue with GPU pricing mostly affects the budget segment since we've had no good entry-level GPUs for a while now. When you get to the 1500€ range I think that the choice of hardware or platform is much more about personal preference (meaning, what works for you and fits better in your life) than any actual budget limitations. I struggle to think of any task that a 1500€ PC would be worse at than a Mac or a Playstation.
I think it will be interesting to see if the Deck / Deck 2 / Steam Machine 2 can fill the entry level market.
 

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I think it will be interesting to see if the Deck / Deck 2 / Steam Machine 2 can fill the entry level market.
I hope the steam machine 2, if they even exist, target the mid-range market or even the mid to high market, perhaps tiered releases between 1000€ and 2000€. The deck already covers the entry level, there's no logical reason to have two competing machines within the same segment.
 
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edin

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Mostly looking forward to the new Steam Controller. I love to have four back buttons and symmetric stick layouts on a gamepad. Pretty much nothing else on the market that does that.
Ya I think the only one with four back buttons and symmertic stick layout = victrix pro bfg (using the module to change the layout).

Also happy that Steam Deck has symmetric sticks.
 
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How is Linux for retro (pc) gaming? That is literally the only thing keeping me on Windows at this point. I can, for the most part install a game from Dx1-dx12 with only some slight tinkering and it'll work on Windows. My attempts with Linux when I was bigger into it were way more of a headache than was worth. Or is it more dependent on the distro?
What do you define as retro gaming? Lutris is pretty decent for old PC Games. Things can get quite quirky when modding is involved though. Most games work without patches. If I would guess about 70 pct of my retro games work without any patches. Games under Dosbox works just like on Windows, same regarding console emulation.

If you are a bit more technical there is Qemu-3DFX. Running Windows XP and or Windows 98 under a VM with 3d acceleration. It's rather difficult to setup though but performance is great. PCIE passthrough is also an option (Which is what I use for Windows XP but you need specific hardware) to use actual hardware for that sweet Creative Soundblaster XiFi stuff

What I am trying to say is that you have more option under Linux. It can be extremely fidly though. Stick to Windows of you dont want to get your hands dirty.
 
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ZKenir

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Peak


Hoyo been killing it. Honestly one really fun aspect of playing a bunch of popular live-service games is that you constantly get showered in awesome multi-media content.
ZZZ is quickly turning into one of my dream game.
Action game with continued story that's easy enough for scrubs like me, optional difficult content (tower mode) and gated instances vs monsters ala god eater/monster hunter.

HSR is also great as it's low maintenance like FGO and periodically showers player with good content
 
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I hope the steam machine 2, if they even exist, target the mid-range market or even the mid to high market, perhaps tiered releases between 1000€ and 2000€. The deck already covers the entry level, there's no logical reason to have two competing machines within the same segment.
I do think the Steam machine Valve is rumored to be working on will target mid tier pricing and performance. Makes sense not to step on the the Deck's toes and I don't think Valve can complete with high end Nvidia hardware with AMD apus.
 

ZKenir

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Midrange steam machine would be nice I guess.
I’d have to trade my pc for a steam machine + macbook combo though unless i could install windows on it, then it’d be perfect
 
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