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Steam had a good run. :crying-face:

But seriously, while the user base experienced healthy growth, I almost think player spending might have declined, especially since Valve didn't mention it. If it did decline, it's probably a combination of the COVID boom fading, the world economy worsening and 2022 being one of the driest years for new releases in recent memory. The only huge new releases I can think of in 2022 were Elden Ring, Lost Ark and Modern Warfare 2. It might also explain why Epic is so coy about releasing their year in review.
Your observations are mostly correct. It's more about the challenging economic situation globally than covid boom going away. Most people need to prioritize necessities over luxuries and games are not a necessity. Still stayed strong which is a good sign.
 

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I feel like I'm gravitating more towards F2P stuff these days. Mostly mobile games, weirdly enough. (That I play on my desktop PC, while I play my PC games mobile on the Steam Deck, lol).
Never would have thought I would one day happily play F2P GaaS games, but here we are. Genshin, Honkai Impact, Honkai Star Rail soon. I guess the common throughline here is that it looks like I like Hoyoverse's brand of F2P GaaS, since they are effectively (very good looking and highly polished) single-player games.
Honkai Impact in particular even has its story mode effectively detached from all the F2P gachaness surrounding it and can basically be played as a regular Action game with probably 100+ hours of just story stuff (which is how I to prefer to engage with it every couple months).
Are you an Arknights Bro? :>
 
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Speaking of mobile on PC. Was curious and tried Nikke last night. I had been to try it again and with the upcoming Chainsaw Man crossover thought now might be a good time.

PC client is a mixed bag.

UI is spread out to make use of the bigger screen. But also looks empty now. There is nothing really in the void spaces.

I like the fact you use QWERT to quickly select between the characters in combat. Plus you get a wider view of the battlefield. But something seems off. It’s as if the barriers you are behind only show when you focus on the character.

one oddity but not sure if this is in the base game ora quirk of the PC version. But one of the cutscenes completely screwed up. It was showing characters who weren’t in the scene. So a character would be speaking but it was a different characters model.

As for cutscenes, these are still in the portrait mobile view. So while everything else has been tweaked for PC desktops. Cutscenes haven’t.
 
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Li Kao

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Really torn about my upgrade path.

A new GPU ? But it's fucking 1000 euros for a 4070ti. And doesn't come with that much vram (12go ?). Will it be sufficient for future big games, who knows. Will every big game stutter, who knows. It's 1000 and the rest is who knows.
Get a PS5 ? Yeah the bill so much better, but then games are 70 minimum. There won't be as much stutters, but on the other hand the frame rate and IQ will take a hit.

What the fuck even is this monkey paw of a choice.
1000 for a GPU, utterly unreasonable. 2000 to be ahead of the curve, insane. And on the other street over, far lower perfs and daylight robbery pricing with each game.
 

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Really torn about my upgrade path.

A new GPU ? But it's fucking 1000 euros for a 4070ti. And doesn't come with that much vram (12go ?). Will it be sufficient for future big games, who knows. Will every big game stutter, who knows. It's 1000 and the rest is who knows.
Get a PS5 ? Yeah the bill so much better, but then games are 70 minimum. There won't be as much stutters, but on the other hand the frame rate and IQ will take a hit.

What the fuck even is this monkey paw of a choice.
1000 for a GPU, utterly unreasonable. 2000 to be ahead of the curve, insane. And on the other street over, far lower perfs and daylight robbery pricing with each game.
I have a 1660 super but it doesn't make THAT much sense when my CPU is also meh.
I am in the lookout for a good prebuilt right now
 
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I have a 1660 super but it doesn't make THAT much sense when my CPU is also meh.
I am in the lookout for a good prebuilt right now
Yeah I'm better (?) off in that I recently upgraded my PC to a super airflow case and a 5800X3d. All that's left is the GPU and I'm golden.
Now, The GPU.....

Edit.
I mean a GPU should be 600 or so for me. At 1000 it's firstly costly and unwieldy to pay. But ok, let's get cray cray, I buy a 4070 ti. Will I even have far better perfs than my 2060S or will every new big game be a stutter fest ? Now I admit I'm influenced by all the doom and gloom, I'm generally so late to the party that I have yet to play many of the recent games plagued by it.
But Elden Ring wasn't a good time on my PC. If I throw 1000 euros and everything is Elden Ring I will be... fluorescent green.

Edit2.
Let's be positive, at least some GPU are available, contrary to the precedent years.
 
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Really torn about my upgrade path.

A new GPU ? But it's fucking 1000 euros for a 4070ti. And doesn't come with that much vram (12go ?). Will it be sufficient for future big games, who knows. Will every big game stutter, who knows. It's 1000 and the rest is who knows.
Get a PS5 ? Yeah the bill so much better, but then games are 70 minimum. There won't be as much stutters, but on the other hand the frame rate and IQ will take a hit.

What the fuck even is this monkey paw of a choice.
1000 for a GPU, utterly unreasonable. 2000 to be ahead of the curve, insane. And on the other street over, far lower perfs and daylight robbery pricing with each game.
What's your current GPU? Depending on what it is, it could be worth to wait a couple of years for the next generation and hope that it'll be better than the current one when it comes to VRAM?

If you really need a GPU upgrade though, the 4070 non-Ti is rumored to be releasing in april, the rumored specs have it with 12GB of VRAM like the Ti, and I'm speculating that, based on its specs, it could be around 3080 performance, maybe...
 
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Really torn about my upgrade path.

A new GPU ? But it's fucking 1000 euros for a 4070ti. And doesn't come with that much vram (12go ?). Will it be sufficient for future big games, who knows. Will every big game stutter, who knows. It's 1000 and the rest is who knows.
Get a PS5 ? Yeah the bill so much better, but then games are 70 minimum. There won't be as much stutters, but on the other hand the frame rate and IQ will take a hit.

What the fuck even is this monkey paw of a choice.
1000 for a GPU, utterly unreasonable. 2000 to be ahead of the curve, insane. And on the other street over, far lower perfs and daylight robbery pricing with each game.
I feel like the best play right now is to just wait things out. I have a 2060 and am also looking for an upgrade, but things are just way too expensive right now.
Maybe there will be better midrange cards released, or a 40xx Super series with better price/value or the 50xx series will go back to being reasonable.
Some new releases that push graphics might be out of reach until then, but meanwhile there are still hundreds or thousands of great games that don't require anywhere near that horsepower to run well and by that time graphics cards with reasonable price/performance are around again, y0u can go back to those games and they will be cheaper and more complete.
 

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I'm honestly happy to be back to just playing one-off, non-service games. It's nice to just play something without timed events that doesn't seem to spend most of its development effort on figuring out ever-more-intricate strategies for increasing FOMO.
I never stopped playing them. :D
 
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Li Kao

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What's your current GPU? Depending on what it is, it could be worth to wait a couple of years for the next generation and hope that it'll be better than the current one when it comes to VRAM?

If you really need a GPU upgrade though, the 4070 non-Ti is rumored to be releasing in april, the rumored specs have it with 12GB of VRAM like the Ti, and I'm speculating that, based on its specs, it could be around 3080 performance, maybe...
2060 Super at 1440p. I will be the first to admit it does a perfectly good job, but then again I don't even try to play 'fresh' AAA on it.
 

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Now, The GPU.....
Consider looking at second hand. Few months back I got 3080Ti for $600 with 18 months of warranty left on it. Works like a champ. I never considered buying second hand GPU before, but the prices nVidia and AMD set are just way too unreasonable.
 
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Li Kao

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Are there brand to avoid when you buy a GPU ? I'm a boring MSI buyer historically, but these are not the most available at the moment. I see palit, Zotac, Asus, Gainward, Gigabyte, any better and frankly worse than the others ?
 

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Are there brand to avoid when you buy a GPU ? I'm a boring MSI buyer historically, but these are not the most available at the moment. I see palit, Zotac, Asus, Gainward, Gigabyte, any better and frankly worse than the others ?
I always go for the most expensive brand I can afford
 
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2060 Super at 1440p. I will be the first to admit it does a perfectly good job, but then again I don't even try to play 'fresh' AAA on it.
Hmm, right now feels like there's too many question marks when it comes to upgrading GPUs, with how a few recent big games perform and the recent increases in required VRAM for these... And as consoles big games transition away from the cross-gen period, it's likely we haven't seen the end of the big increases in required specs. :/

At 1440p, even with a 3060 Ti I can't help but feel somewhat tempted to want to upgrade as well, because 8GB of VRAM just isn't enough for some newer releases, but at the same time I feel that 12GB will not be enough in a few years.
Then there's the AMD side, while the 7800 cards are probably gonna have 16GB of VRAM, the Nvidia extra features are hard to ignore (plus there have been issues recently in a few games that make me want to avoid AMD GPUs for now).

At least I have too many games that I want to play that don't need these kinds of specs, so I'm just gonna wait for the next gen of GPUs and hope they feel like an actual generational leap in the mid to high end market. Other than the 4090, to me it feels like all of the other 40 series cards so far have cut too many corners in their specs (especially VRAM, be it VRAM amount or bandwidth).

Ah well, for now there's another upgrade that I'm considering, my CPU, thinking about going from i7 9700K to ryzen 7800X3D.

Are there brand to avoid when you buy a GPU ? I'm a boring MSI buyer historically, but these are not the most available at the moment. I see palit, Zotac, Asus, Gainward, Gigabyte, any better and frankly worse than the others ?
My previous card was MSI and my current is Gigabyte, haven't had issues with them so I have no idea how are their customer services.
 
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Are there brand to avoid when you buy a GPU ? I'm a boring MSI buyer historically, but these are not the most available at the moment. I see palit, Zotac, Asus, Gainward, Gigabyte, any better and frankly worse than the others ?
I currently have a zotac 4090 and it's been great, no idea what they're usually like but I've never seen them shit talked

I heard Gigabyte's customer service is awful
 
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Are there brand to avoid when you buy a GPU ? I'm a boring MSI buyer historically, but these are not the most available at the moment. I see palit, Zotac, Asus, Gainward, Gigabyte, any better and frankly worse than the others ?
This might be good indication which cards are worth buying

 
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I dithered too long about buying FF VII Intergrade on CDKeys, and now they're out of stock. :( Anyone know a good deal for the game? Not wanting to pay more than £38/€40. Europe activation, if that makes a difference.
 

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I dithered too long about buying FF VII Intergrade on CDKeys, and now they're out of stock. :( Anyone know a good deal for the game? Not wanting to pay more than £38/€40. Europe activation, if that makes a difference.
The cheapest one right now is on Instant Gaming (-45%) Link
 

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I'm honestly happy to be back to just playing one-off, non-service games. It's nice to just play something without timed events that doesn't seem to spend most of its development effort on figuring out ever-more-intricate strategies for increasing FOMO.
I play mostly single player games... but I still play GaaS games religiously (as long as I like them anyway, I've stopped a lot of them too).
For me, it's less about the complete "experience", and more about the games feel.

And I think that's where a lot of single player games fall into exactly the same trappings of GaaS - even if for entirely different reasons.
Sure, God of War does not want you to spend more money to get more runes or whatever. But every sequence is so much longer than it needs to be (and the frequent elevators or similar parts make me think of arcade games from the early 90s weirdly enough), everything is slow, oftentimes animation locked to hell and back (Read Dead Redemption 2 comes to mind here), and of course my main gripe with A LOT of mdoern games...

The completely meaningless progression systems that have spread everywhere.
Did Horizon 2 need those crazy long upgrade chains for everything that you'll never fill?
Do we really need the WoW color schemed in every AAA under the sun?
Why is Labyrinth of Refrain so slow and grindy when the combat is so shallow and progress RNG based?

Sure, the GaaS model is pretty explicit about wanting the players to be engaged - but the now endless hours that every game requires before being approved... is that really any different?
A few days ago, you were talking about Final Fantasy 7 Remake, and it's a good example: the game is quite solid. It's also 15 hours of content stretched over triple that. And you end up with insipid dungeons lasting hours, with meager enemy variety and extremely limited character progression, and all the good parts come at the cost of a lot of drivel.
But that's not even new: even in the original FF7 the cinematics were some sort of "reward" for completing the more common game parts.


That's why I don't think the GaaS model is really at odd with the older solo experiences.
Because, frankly, wasting your time in not-so-fun-content is not new at all.
And I sure hope that we can get more concise, and more interesting all the way experiences... but since the amount of playtime became such an ubiquitous requirement and atrocious 2005 era MMO-lite systems (that have now been abandoned! World of Warcraft went back to its roots with more interesting gear progression, erased most of the daily grind and goes for a much more casual audience now, ironically) are everywhere, I doubt it will happen in the AAA space.
Certainly made me drop of most of the enthusiast crowd when each new big release I play is just more boring systems, rehashed combat, slow movement and Marvel-level of storytelling.
 

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Now that i see you all buying Nirvana Initiative due to the price issue, you have NO EXCUSE not to play it :Merkel:
 
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Sucks about jake leaving. Midnight suns was a bit of a letdown but we'll always have xcom 2.

Really torn about my upgrade path.

A new GPU ? But it's fucking 1000 euros for a 4070ti. And doesn't come with that much vram (12go ?). Will it be sufficient for future big games, who knows. Will every big game stutter, who knows. It's 1000 and the rest is who knows.
Get a PS5 ? Yeah the bill so much better, but then games are 70 minimum. There won't be as much stutters, but on the other hand the frame rate and IQ will take a hit.

What the fuck even is this monkey paw of a choice.
1000 for a GPU, utterly unreasonable. 2000 to be ahead of the curve, insane. And on the other street over, far lower perfs and daylight robbery pricing with each game.
With the way hardware prices are (and it's not just GPUs either) and how ports have been in the last 2 years I advise people to just get a console. The worst they have to deal with is performance modes being 1080p, which is annoying don't get me wrong, but I find it easier to deal with than the stuttering and other huge issues PC ports have. Like when you look back at recent releases:

Wild Hearts- Currently getting crushed on steam reviews due to horrendous performance and stuttering

Yakuza Ishin- Already getting reports of noticeable stutter from the combat demo.

Dead Space- Game stutters more than console despite having shader compile. It's a loading stutter that is also on console but DF confirmed it's worse on PC for some reason. Also the game completely falls apart in the last few chapters, stutters like crazy and I had my average fps go from 100 to 40-50.

Forspoken- No need to really elaborate here it's one of the worst ports ever and isn't really much better on console. I have a 12700k, 3070 and 32gb ram and couldn't even do 1440/60 with medium settings and DLSS on.

Callisto Protocol- Infamously broken on PC on launch day. Stutters, insane fps drops even on a 4090. Performance was so bad Maximilian Dood refunded it on stream and bought it on ps5 just to get a stable experience.

Midnight Suns- Tons of issues. Abbey performance was especially bad despite the game looking graphically bad. Game stuttered a lot

Gotham Knights- This one was messy on all platforms at least, but on PC even people with 4090s were dipping into the 30fps range when traveling through the city. This is on top of stuttering of course.

I could go on and on because these issues affect almost literally every AA/AAA release on PC in the last few years. I see people say just don't buy the bad ports but when it's affecting so many games that's not a very realistic path. You can't just expect people to not buy anything lol.
 

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All the best to Jake. It will be interesting to see where XCOM 3 goes (whenever that happens) under new leadership.
 
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Couldn't think of somewhere else to post this so i'll put it here.

 

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Like a Dragon: Ishin! Known Issues

Hello RGG Fans!

Thank you for playing the Like a Dragon: Ishin! – Combat Demo.

The team is aware of the issues reported by some players and is currently looking into the following:

  • Stuttering when effects are first loaded
  • Crashes on startup (on rare occasions)
  • The display of some UI elements is out of position on ultra-wide displays
  • Changes in heat gauge reduction behavior that is dependent on FPS

We appreciate your support and patience while our team looks into these known issues.
Please continue to share any bugs you encounter via the Official Bug Thread.

- RGG Community Team -
I guess at least they acknowledged the stuttering.
Until they fix this, from what people are saying in the community hub, seems like the command -dx11 helps with the stuttering (though seems like it doesn't completely fix it).
 
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I guess at least they acknowledged the stuttering.
Until they fix this, from what people are saying in the community hub, seems like the command -dx11 helps with the stuttering (though seems like it doesn't completely fix it).
Why are they even using DirectX 12? I feel like however Unreal 4 uses that API just isn't finished, FF VIIR had similar issues with the same fix of flipping back to DirectX 11.
 

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I guess at least they acknowledged the stuttering.
Until they fix this, from what people are saying in the community hub, seems like the command -dx11 helps with the stuttering (though seems like it doesn't completely fix it).
Hopefully this post being up several days head of launch means they'll have a fix out in time...
 
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