Community MetaSteam | January 2025 - Remember cloud, a great remake comes with great responsibility, kuppo.

Dinjoralo

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One thing that it really nice coming out of the NV presentation is the new transformer-based DLSS model.


(It seems like this is coming to all existing HW that can run DLSS)
Yeah, this is super sick. Hopefully the new models are just a DLL swap, for people without the Nvidia app.
 
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Lashley

All the best for 2025!
Yea you know, i don't think i am willing top accept a future where new GPU's always launch at these insane prices while simultaniously games are more and more """optimized""" solely with DLSS in mind if you want to have any performance at all, when i can't even tell the graphical differences between a brand new game and one from 7 years ago anymore
Yep. Hard to be excited for these technologies when AAA devs use it as a crutch to hit the same framerates and resolutions we used to have but now with stutters and worse image quality.
 
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Arc

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The 5000 series looks good, and I would be lying if I said I wasn't slightly perturbed I jumped in the 4000 series, but I can hold off for now.

They are also updating the other DLSS technologies which will benefit RTX 20, 30, and 40 series users.
Geforce Now is coming to Steam Deck

An official Steam Deck Geforce Now app is nifty. I might subscribe to it for a month to see how the performance is docked.
 

Alextended

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Proper footage. Man I so hope they stick to this style and concept, totally opposite from most fighters adding juggles and specials and shit (and even VF fell victim to this to look more stylish like Tekken adding impact glows and shit like that after the first 3-4 games that were attempting to be martial arts simulators).
 

Dinjoralo

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Yall can have the skimpy swimsuit game.

Proper footage. Man I so hope they stick to this style and concept, totally opposite from most fighters adding juggles and specials and shit (and even VF fell victim to this to look more stylish like Tekken adding impact glows and shit like that after the first 3-4 games that were attempting to be martial arts simulators).
I'm annoyingly tempted to buy VF5 to try the series out for the first time. It's a shame it couldn't have been on PC when I was in college and first trying out fighting games.
But I'm making a point this year to actually stop buying random games that catch my interest but I know I won't actually play. It's become a real problem.
 

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RTX 5070 is cheaper than I had expected, supposedly equivalent to a 4090 in performance, and makes me wonder if I jumped the gun a bit in buying a prebuilt RTX 4070 desktop last summer... oh well, I can always upgrade my GPU a few years down the road
 
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fantomena

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5080 is cheaper in Norway than I expected, 5090 is a lot pricier than I expected. Still haven't decided, but aiming for the 5080.
 
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manchego obfuscator

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From my understanding it's only getting 4090 performance with all the fake frames, FG and DLSS4 all enabled.

So I would think it's not really.
Yeah, that's probably a pretty misleading bit of marketing hype. I also haven't been too impressed with DLSS3 framegen thus far (I haven't used it extensively, but in every game I've tried it in, I saw noticeable artifacting, especially when moving the camera horizontally), so idk how multiple AI-generated frames are going to look in practice
 
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I'm probably going to buy the 5080 soon, just waiting for a Yeston variant or a black and purple GPU to release, since I want something to match the Hyte Y70 Honkai Star Rail case I bought for a new desktop setup.

I wonder if the new transformer model for DLSS 4 is going to fix the ghosting problem with temporal solutions. Will be interesting to hear the opinion from someone like ThreatInteractive who constantly derails against TAA solutions.

Multi-frame generation being easy to enable in games that already have DLSS FG support is neat, but since this seemingly is a driver-side setting, I wonder how it's going to work on Proton, since I can't see myself using Windows 11 for that much longer.

What's interesting is that the 5070 is only 30% better than the 4070 on average in Far Cry 6, because it lacks DLSS or FG support, meaning they probably just got that 4090 comparison based on the DLSS stuff being there. The 5090 has twice the bandwidth, AI TOPS, and VRAM, so no wonder it's exactly 2x the cost of the 5080. To me it seems like these prices while having less AI compute is specifically designed to ring AI users for more money.
 
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ezodagrom

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One thing that it really nice coming out of the NV presentation is the new transformer-based DLSS model.


(It seems like this is coming to all existing HW that can run DLSS)
Yeah, the new DLSS model is looking pretty nice (from 03:17 until 07:06):


I wonder if the new transformer model for DLSS 4 is going to fix the ghosting problem with temporal solutions. Will be interesting to hear the opinion from someone like ThreatInteractive who constantly derails against TAA solutions.
Seems like so, the digital foundry video has a couple examples about ghosting at 05:03 and 05:20.
 

lashman

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Ahead of Legion Go S shipping, we will be shipping a beta of SteamOS which should improve the experience on other handhelds, and users can download and test this themselves. And of course we'll continue adding support and improving the experience with future releases.
 

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Are there any fun online coop games like supermarket together and fast food simulator?

We're trying a fishing game atm called Fishing Planet too lol

Sure beats gaas games

Haven't played it but I remember reading about this a few months ago. I think it's more of a glorified chat room than anything else though.
 
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KingKrouch

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Lashley

All the best for 2025!

Haven't played it but I remember reading about this a few months ago. I think it's more of a glorified chat room than anything else though.
Nice, thanks :D
The wife and I had a go at this over the weekend and it was alright....

Cheers! Another for the wishlist
 

PC-tan

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A reminder that this game exists and will be releasing on Steam some time later this year.

It's Isekai Heaven (not including Korean Isekai series, sadly)

 
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Do I hold out on maybe a chance of them making a 5080 with more VRAM later?

I was waiting to get a new GPU then a new monitor that is at least 240hz and at min 1440 (I dunno I still need a second monitor so dunno if I can go down to one) after building a new PC after that earthquake. I have a 7800X3D with a 1070 heh on a 850w PSU.
 
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I'm curious about the Switch 2 and how well will it sell. I'm sure that it will eventually sell over 100 million units, but will it be able to reach the 146 million that Switch 1 sold? Or do you think something happened between then and now to make it where it will fall a few tens of millions units short?


Will parents still buy them for their kids or will price play a roll until Switch Lite comes around and knocks the price back down to something closer to $200.

UMPC exist, but those are not selling in the 10s of millions of units. Cellphones keep getting better, you do still have cloud steaming and other options that exist.

So long as Switch 1 is being supported will that keep the growth of Switch 2? Why upgrade when there are still games being made for Switch 1.

What was the difference between PS5 and Switch sells. The PS5 is still selling but it doesn't seem to be selling as much as prior consoles have right? Or something like that.


I'm not buying a Switch 2 right away, but eventually when Nintendo releases the remake of Pokemon Black and White, I'm buying that Special edition Switch 1/2
 

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I'm curious about the Switch 2 and how well will it sell. I'm sure that it will eventually sell over 100 million units, but will it be able to reach the 146 million that Switch 1 sold? Or do you think something happened between then and now to make it where it will fall a few tens of millions units short?


Will parents still buy them for their kids or will price play a roll until Switch Lite comes around and knocks the price back down to something closer to $200.

UMPC exist, but those are not selling in the 10s of millions of units. Cellphones keep getting better, you do still have cloud steaming and other options that exist.

So long as Switch 1 is being supported will that keep the growth of Switch 2? Why upgrade when there are still games being made for Switch 1.

What was the difference between PS5 and Switch sells. The PS5 is still selling but it doesn't seem to be selling as much as prior consoles have right? Or something like that.


I'm not buying a Switch 2 right away, but eventually when Nintendo releases the remake of Pokemon Black and White, I'm buying that Special edition Switch 1/2
Nintendo console is always about exclusive. Switch 1 had a very successful first year which led to subsequently great years, thanks to a carefully-calculated launch schedule of games.

Mario fans -> Mario Odyssey
Zelda fans -> Breath of the Wild
eSport crowd -> Splatoon 2
JRPG folks -> Xenoblade 2
Fire Emblem fans -> Fire Emblem Warriors
Pokemon fans -> Let's Go Pikachu / Eevee

They managed to get nearly every spectrum of Nintendo fans on board in the first year, and I think they will try to replicate it in 2025. Now with the success of Switch 1, they should be able to get some good third parties to fill in the gaps, too. FF7 remake and rebirth are very likely, imo.

Edit: Forgot the most important one: Family/Party game -> Mario Kart 8 port
 
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yuraya

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I'm curious about the Switch 2 and how well will it sell. I'm sure that it will eventually sell over 100 million units, but will it be able to reach the 146 million that Switch 1 sold? Or do you think something happened between then and now to make it where it will fall a few tens of millions units short?


Will parents still buy them for their kids or will price play a roll until Switch Lite comes around and knocks the price back down to something closer to $200.

UMPC exist, but those are not selling in the 10s of millions of units. Cellphones keep getting better, you do still have cloud steaming and other options that exist.

So long as Switch 1 is being supported will that keep the growth of Switch 2? Why upgrade when there are still games being made for Switch 1.

What was the difference between PS5 and Switch sells. The PS5 is still selling but it doesn't seem to be selling as much as prior consoles have right? Or something like that.


I'm not buying a Switch 2 right away, but eventually when Nintendo releases the remake of Pokemon Black and White, I'm buying that Special edition Switch 1/2
As long as they price it correctly (under 400$) and it has BC it should be fine. maybe not 150 million but it will definitely reach 100-120 million which is still a big win for them.

First few years will be about launch window titles. A new 3D mario and Metroid Prime will boost them from the beginning. They always do some nice casual titles too like Kart or Smash. There will be some big surprises too like Xenoblade or Pokemon or something. Some decent 3rd party support will help too since the Switch should be as powerful as the Deck. Plus you have potential for uprezed ports and rereleaes/remasters. They probably have a lot line up since so many titles had poor performance and framerate on the first Switch.

Unless there is serious inventory/hardware issues...or the device does some stupid gimmick....they should be able to sell 15-20 million units per year. And match the first Switch for many years.
 
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edin

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This version isn't coming to PC (no announcement/hint to it) but if yall are curious about Ys Memoire (I covered most of this in my preview), my full review is up on RPG Site. Instead of being the definitive edition, it is just a good portable version of a fantastic game.



Falcom should've gotten PH3 to do it instead of an internal release.