Guess Valve agrees with me:wtf i've never seen this before
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Have Klei mentioned if the price will be increased when it's on Steam?If yea own Griftlands on EGS, you can get it on steam..no charge.
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Btw, who is this Julian Glander?
I really liked this one even if it isnt a ‘Hitman’ game
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I should be happy about it, but instead this is making me grumpy. The genre has been so neglected and abandoned by every publishers until KS came along that I can't help be wary of what "space sim" means to themsure seems like it - judging by that artwork
... and it's gonna be on steam
.I hope to learn more, when are news coming out? The PC gaming event?
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I should be happy about it, but instead this is making me grumpy. The genre has been so neglected and abandoned by every publishers until KS came along that I can't help be wary of what "space sim" means to them
I hope to learn more, when are news coming out? The PC gaming event?
EA Play (June 18th), i would imagine
and in other news:
What does it matter if my Bakery, Clothing Store, Grocery Store, Hardware Store, Videogaming Store, etc. support BLM? It is basic human decency and nothing is gained by corporations who have nothing to do with the matters at hand to proclaim support of a matter that should be answered with "duh" when asked if you support it.
Individual persons and politicians are another matter. But corporations? Everything will be PR and the equivalent of telling us that they are against drowning puppies.
I support BLM, and I boycott and support corporations based on my experience with them in the past, nothing changes on my perception of these corporations based on the silence on subjects they have nothing to do with.
And talking about silence, I couldn't find anything relating to Julian Glander and the Hong Kong protests.
Is he for the suppression of the free Hong-Kong people? His silence is deafening. /s
Individual persons and politicians are another matter. But corporations? Everything will be PR and the equivalent of telling us that they are against drowning puppies.
I support BLM, and I boycott and support corporations based on my experience with them in the past, nothing changes on my perception of these corporations based on the silence on subjects they have nothing to do with.
And talking about silence, I couldn't find anything relating to Julian Glander and the Hong Kong protests.
Is he for the suppression of the free Hong-Kong people? His silence is deafening. /s
Ya I sort of feel mixed about it. I mean if Valve spoke out about the thing, then they would be Hippocrates. A lot of companies already are.
We are only talking about what happening in the US but what about other parts in the world? If companies really cared they would also be talking about that as well. I think Activision Blizzard has been talking about what's currently happening but when it comes to Hong Kong they sure kept quite didn't they? All they care about is scoring PR points and making money off the "winning team".
I was told that corporations are soulless entities. What matters more is what the people inside do.
Don't expect much from Valve when it comes to PR since they barely even do it for their own products but yet you have almost every one else spending a lot of time and effort on it (no Riot I don't want to play LOL and all of those other games so please stop showing me ads for those games)
The closest thing that Valve did for the BLM movement was the GC Black Voices page, which was a last minute thing and even then it didn't last very long. It did get a spot on top of steam though (not as a banner but as an imagine I think). They even tweeted about it.
To some that was not enough, and there was even this one person that tweeted about that. The results of that tweet were not good. That person was person was praising Epic for doing way more than Valve (I think Epic did make a statement and even donated some money??), They did a survey to ask if people sided with Epic or Valve. 90% sided with Valve. The real issue how ever comes with what the option for Valve was and it said something along the line of "if you side with Valve you support white supremacist" and that's the side that ended up winning. Had the wording been different I wonder if the results would also have been different. But that wording and the results are of concern.
An area where some on here have had concerns with Valve over and something that Valve themselves have not really done much of, is in regards to the LGBT event. Midboss is doing a pride sale, I don't think that Steam tweeted about that (and I don't recall seeing anything for it on the front page technically. The only way to really get to that page is via VALLA and then you will see the Pride banner on top of that page.
Its possible that Valve didn't do a lot to promote it since it was not going to last very long and because a lot of other stuff was going to come out and be talking the spot light anyway. Since there is a lot of stuff on Steam right now and more in the coming week.
Even when it came to the Steam summer event, that was pushed back and they even emailed people about it, but it would seem that some devs didn't check their emails? Was that a result of the BLM movement? Maybe maybe not? I would think that some companies would want to move their announcements to a date that was not close to the funeral.
At first I thought the tweet was about something completely different and that Valve removed the game (censored it or something) and that's why the dev didn't want to release other games on Steam in fear of their other stuff being removed, which makes sense.
If an indie dev chooses to not associated themselves because of the lack of PR, that's okay, if the company doesn't do PR stuff they may not even talk to you.
2 things companies have been doing are making a statement about how they stand with what ever is currently happening (that's where the Brand meme is being used for) and they are also donating money to charities. The message thing doesn't really do much but donating to charities can help.
From an AMA that GabeN did do a few years ago I think he said that Valve does donate to charities and stuff but you never hear about that stuff. Its possible that that's what they are doing and just don't want to talk about it. One of the bad things about that from what I recall is that they have to vote on it as a company or something like that and that a big portion of everyone has to agree before they donate money (I could be wrong and maybe just don't recall that correctly).
In the past year, what they did for stuff like COVID was limit downloads, but you could just ignore that and manually update things. While everyone else was forcing it on people. As for bundles there were 2 SE bundles (I missed out on one of them) but that was most likely a SE thing.
I don't think Valve organizes charity bundles and often when it happens it's publishers that come together and do that?
We are only talking about what happening in the US but what about other parts in the world? If companies really cared they would also be talking about that as well. I think Activision Blizzard has been talking about what's currently happening but when it comes to Hong Kong they sure kept quite didn't they? All they care about is scoring PR points and making money off the "winning team".
I was told that corporations are soulless entities. What matters more is what the people inside do.
Don't expect much from Valve when it comes to PR since they barely even do it for their own products but yet you have almost every one else spending a lot of time and effort on it (no Riot I don't want to play LOL and all of those other games so please stop showing me ads for those games)
The closest thing that Valve did for the BLM movement was the GC Black Voices page, which was a last minute thing and even then it didn't last very long. It did get a spot on top of steam though (not as a banner but as an imagine I think). They even tweeted about it.
To some that was not enough, and there was even this one person that tweeted about that. The results of that tweet were not good. That person was person was praising Epic for doing way more than Valve (I think Epic did make a statement and even donated some money??), They did a survey to ask if people sided with Epic or Valve. 90% sided with Valve. The real issue how ever comes with what the option for Valve was and it said something along the line of "if you side with Valve you support white supremacist" and that's the side that ended up winning. Had the wording been different I wonder if the results would also have been different. But that wording and the results are of concern.
An area where some on here have had concerns with Valve over and something that Valve themselves have not really done much of, is in regards to the LGBT event. Midboss is doing a pride sale, I don't think that Steam tweeted about that (and I don't recall seeing anything for it on the front page technically. The only way to really get to that page is via VALLA and then you will see the Pride banner on top of that page.
Its possible that Valve didn't do a lot to promote it since it was not going to last very long and because a lot of other stuff was going to come out and be talking the spot light anyway. Since there is a lot of stuff on Steam right now and more in the coming week.
Even when it came to the Steam summer event, that was pushed back and they even emailed people about it, but it would seem that some devs didn't check their emails? Was that a result of the BLM movement? Maybe maybe not? I would think that some companies would want to move their announcements to a date that was not close to the funeral.
At first I thought the tweet was about something completely different and that Valve removed the game (censored it or something) and that's why the dev didn't want to release other games on Steam in fear of their other stuff being removed, which makes sense.
If an indie dev chooses to not associated themselves because of the lack of PR, that's okay, if the company doesn't do PR stuff they may not even talk to you.
2 things companies have been doing are making a statement about how they stand with what ever is currently happening (that's where the Brand meme is being used for) and they are also donating money to charities. The message thing doesn't really do much but donating to charities can help.
From an AMA that GabeN did do a few years ago I think he said that Valve does donate to charities and stuff but you never hear about that stuff. Its possible that that's what they are doing and just don't want to talk about it. One of the bad things about that from what I recall is that they have to vote on it as a company or something like that and that a big portion of everyone has to agree before they donate money (I could be wrong and maybe just don't recall that correctly).
In the past year, what they did for stuff like COVID was limit downloads, but you could just ignore that and manually update things. While everyone else was forcing it on people. As for bundles there were 2 SE bundles (I missed out on one of them) but that was most likely a SE thing.
I don't think Valve organizes charity bundles and often when it happens it's publishers that come together and do that?
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wtf i've never seen this before
Individual devs can still ban from every other game too?
They should release the game on PC so I can prioritize both at the same time.
wtf i've never seen this before
Good, good. Censoring anime is the right step. :troll:
MP is incredibly, insanely hard to balance for space sims. This is getting intriguing, thank you!
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This, for sure -- it's also a distraction tactic so people forget how closely capitalism is tied to institutional injustice.
Exactly
When you're so pure no one can pass your purity tests but your little circle jerk will still support you.
noticed that when you buy Journey you also get Flower so i decided to buy
People forget that Valve has so much pull is insane, if they did the same of what itch is doing thay would overcut it hard, they will do nothing until Summer Festival or winter seal if they do something.
I can't wait for the return of Starfox 64 dogfights (￣y▽,￣)╭
I liked Flower more than Journey. Both great games if you’re into the genre.noticed that when you buy Journey you also get Flower so i decided to buy
Yeah, I absolutely loved Shadow Tactics back in the day and the D3 demo quickly convinced me that MiMiMi's talents were not a one-off fluke.
GMG sent me a -25% coupon for D3 a few days ago and that combined with a free season pass & soundtrack for all pre-orders sealed the deal pretty quickly.
Looking forward to giving it a go in a few days.
And let's not forget that there are a massive amount of people who would criticize Valve regardless of what they do or don't do.
Let's say Valve makes a special BLM Sale and gives visibility to black developers or games that depict black culture or issues.
The FIRST thing Valve gets criticized for, is about cashing in on BLM.
And even if they omit they cut to the devs or pay a charity, they will still be somehow the bad guy who tries to lure unsuspecting customers into their store.
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And the problem of once you start, where do you draw the line? US-centric? What cause is more or less worthy of being broadcasted?
I don't feel comfortable with gaming platforms becoming such a tool, on top of them being really the last place we should look to for moral guidance.
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Stream is at like 2pm EST (An hour after the Steam daily update) so probably between then and 4pm EST
Correct.
I saw a picture/meme recently about the "solidarity" BLM protests around the world... and Hong Kong looking betrayed in the corner. (It was by someone mocking the protests but the conclusion still stands)
WHY were there no solidarity protests around the world when Hong Kong fought against police brutality and their freedom just a few months before?
Bleh, well you can play through it quickly with Origin Access then I guess.
I think it’s still significant and meaningful because it will at least destabilize some toxic actors. The more intrusive and forceful the better,
Make every CoD player type out Black Lives Matter before every match. Make it part of agreeing to the EULA. The repetition in seeing that racism and hatred won’t be tolerated will actually have an impact.
Just received an Everspace 2 backer e-mail saying they will be showing it tomorrow in the PCGamer presentation thingy.
Can't wait!!
Can't wait!!
Is this possibly because of spoilers and NSFW stuff? Since I would imagine that the devs may have not liked it and wanted to get rid of it.wtf i've never seen this before
let me ask you two things.
1. how long would players be required to write BLM out before every match?
2. And what does it say about the meaning and the believability of the gesture by the company when you are not required to type it before every match anymore?
I'm sorry, but this idea is much, much too authoritarian and Orwellian for my taste. These are also games that people purchased and if I was forced to do this with a product I bought, I would refund in a heartbeat. The idea that corporations should feel comfortable invading people's private time and forcing compliance on anything unrelated to the product and irrespective of their will is unacceptable to me.
cdkeys cancelled and refunded my pre-order of FFVII Remake 
cdkeys cancelled and refunded my pre-order of FFVII Remake
what did you expect? take 45€ loss on 100k orders each?
Demand changes from companies, not thoughts and prayers.
wtf i've never seen this before
I had this triggered by an indie dev that didn’t know what they were doing once, FWIW.
It was a screenshot of the VR game Throw Everything.
Schools in the US already force students to pledge allegiance to the flag. At NFL games players were forced to stand for the national anthem.
Being forced to type something ethically positive by a private company, when they already force you to submit to a multitude of other mandatory actions is extremely not authoritarian. It’s simply a product choice.
Maybe it could be an incentive instead of a requirement. Type it before a match to get 2 times XP.
FWIW it would be totally worth it to knock 100% of the racists out of a game, or the gaming community.
I agree and I would add that at this point Steam has its own audience.
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Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shit.
Steam & Epic?
Hopefully we'll hear about it at the PCGamer show.
Finished
Had to use cheat(s) at some points as the difficulty rose very high in some parts (game came with it's own cheats so that was cool). Also had to use SAM on the last boss cheevo as I didn't receive it.
Other than that, absolutely fantastic retro shooter that still feels quite modern. Really fun.
Had to use cheat(s) at some points as the difficulty rose very high in some parts (game came with it's own cheats so that was cool). Also had to use SAM on the last boss cheevo as I didn't receive it.
Other than that, absolutely fantastic retro shooter that still feels quite modern. Really fun.
Absolutely not. I'm sorry, there is absolutely nothing about what you said that would make this not authoritarian. Imagine the thing to type was anything else, how would you feel about it? Besides, those "mandatory other actions" are the actual game, that you paid for. This bears no resemblance, no narrative cohesion with the rest of the game at all. It's forceful propaganda.
There is no ground, no possible way to make such a mandatory thing acceptable, especially if implemented after purchase, without the user's consent. Forcing the user to type their adherence to any kind of ideology, as benign as it is, during their hobby and private time is Orwellian to the extreme.
On top of that I would argue that forcing people to follow a cause is going to backfire big time, on account of it being as I said authoritarian. You are more likely to get more hate than any kind of positive consequence. What do you think the efficiency of such a measure would be on top of being morally wrong?
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What?!
It's this a SW:Space SIM? Maybe even a spiritual successor to xwing/tie-fighter.
Because if it is I'm gonna melt down.
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sorry
Oh no, not your fault and my angry face was directed at EA, who are as always not making something I like or want.
Stupid me was getting excited for a moment...
Wouldn't be surprised if it was Steam and Standalone. Rather than Steam and EGS.
Steam & Epic?
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