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kafiend

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I never like to get involved in launch day console buying and usually wait until there is something exclusive that I really, really, really want to play before I buy one.
Though this time round I don't think I'll even bother with doing that. My PS4 is the least played console I have ever owned and I just don't see much personal value in owning them anymore. Also, I was dopey enough to additionally buy a PS4 Pro and then practically never use it.
 

Swenhir

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This is already hitting hard for people in Europe, UK, Canada, NZ and Australia but I dread to think of what that increase looks like for people in third-world countries, or countries who have fallen on hard times. It tends to be way worse for them given the disparity in income.
 

Li Kao

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Thinking a little more on my last post, I would be ashamed to not mention the Co-Op thread Swenhir
I get that you are not big on multiplayer, but most people there are chillax.



With all the hubbub about a new Quest, do I need to offload my Rift S asap ?
What about price ? Things is 450 on Amazon France, what about 300 and shipping on the buyer ? Am I too pricey or too generous, spot on ?
 
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Swenhir

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Thinking a little more on my last post, I would be ashamed to not mention the Co-Op thread Swenhir
I get that you are not big on multiplayer, but most people there are chillax.



With all the hubbub about a new Quest, do I need to offload my Rift S asap ?
What about price ? Things is 450 on Amazon France, what about 300 and shipping on the buyer ? Am I too pricey or too generous, spot on ?
Sent you a friend request :)
 
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ISee

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What are the chances of a real remaster when they are including BB into ps+ for PS5 on day one.
 
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Li Kao

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A lot of Rift S on the French Craigslist today :thinking-blob:
Some motherfucker in my town selling at 300 already :disapproval-blob:
 

EdwardTivrusky

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80€ = $94
Included taxes or not. I can't shake the feeling Sony is asking Europe to subsidize the console.
It's always been the way. America is a huge market so they don't want to upset their customers there so the rest of the world effectively subsidises America's cheaper pricing. Everywhere else has already had price increases where America didn't, then you factor in Sales taxes and regional wages and spending power and the gap increases.

It's not quite that simple but there is an amount of bullshittery that the rest of the world have to put up with compared to America when it comes to console gaming.
 

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Well, that yesterday the PS5 event was... Quite something. I couldn't have ever imagined that Sony will mess up with messaging so bad. As I've said before this event, I was intended to accept that my info was wrong, shut down my channel, and never talk about it again if Bloodborne won't be there. But after this whole mess, I feel like I can't leave without a trace anymore, so I'm going to talk about Bloodborne for the last time and face the consequences.

I'm saying it right away, I'm not intending to give you false hope regarding this stuff. I agree that it'll be better if everyone will consider this rumor as incorrect and won't expect to see Bloodborne PC port soon. I just want to try clear things up about what exactly I've heard about it before leaving this topic for good. People will blame me in making "clickbait YouTube comments" again, but I hope that at least this time major gaming outlets won't take this comment and run with it as some big story. I'll say it again, TAKE EVERYTHING BELOW WITH A HUGE GRAIN OF SALT, I CAN'T CONFIRM THIS INFO AND IT MIGHT END UP BEING FALSE.



First of all, I admit that I've made a mistake and mixed up the info that I've got about Bloodborne. I was saying it right from the start, it was not a single person who told me about BB PC port, but 3 different sources, which are, from my knowledge, are not connected with each other. They were saying different details about the whole thing but were agreeing on one thing - that the BB PC port is real and will be released eventually. I got this info with a promise that I'll keep their identities anonymous so they won't get into trouble, but this is what each of them told me:

1. Bloodborne PS5 launch title and somewhat related to backward compatibility + BB PC port
2. Bloodborne PS5 remaster + Demon's Souls remake at the end of June event + BB PC port (with some NDA stuff shown)
3. Demon's Souls remake is full PS5 exclusive at launch with the possibility of a PC port later + BB PC port
+ 2 other people came after I published this video and confirmed the BB PC port info independently.

As you can see, only one person was giving me some sort of timeframe of when it'll all could be officially revealed. So I've made an assumption that looked logical for me back then, that PS5 launch and remaster stuff is the same thing, and remaster and PC port will be officially revealed this year. The problem is, #1 never said anything to me about remaster stuff, and now #2 has claimed to me that BB remaster is a separate thing, that it's not related to the PS5 launch version, and the remaster with PC port will launch later. I know that sounds weird, but after recent Sony stunts, I won't be surprised that they are actually going to do this.

The bad news is, it means the remaster probably won't be revealed before the PS5 launch, so no announcement this year, and no PC port soon. The last update that I was given today about the state of PC port is that they were doing a bigger wave of tests in August that was supposed to be final, but with a higher range of playtesters they found new unexpected critical bugs. And Sony didn't want to repeat the same mistake as they did with the HZD PC port, so they insisted on continuing to actively test it to make sure everything is good. Again, this is all only about PC port stuff, I have no idea what's going on with PS5 remaster, considering if it's real after all. In any case, looks like stuff was delayed again thanks to messed up HZD PC port, which was mostly outsourced as well and only overseen by the Guerilla at first.

As for Demon's Souls Remake, I've always said that it's going to be a full PS5 exclusive, at least for now. It's not a secret that Sony is always considering now PC ports for their first-party games, they even officially confirmed it in their recent corporate report. Today Jim Rayn said once again at the end of his interview that "Sony has also expressed increasing interest in porting games to the PC" - https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2020/09/16/ps5-retail-units/ Moreover, I've been told that from now on, most of their first-party titles are built with the PC version in mind in case Sony will decide to port them. It's easier to have PC port ready right from the start of development instead of trying to port an old game that was built only for specific hardware like HZD was. And after that whole mess with the DeS Remake PC announcement and Sony backtracking about it, I believe that the PC port will definitely come out later, probably in 1 year after the PS5 launch.


To conclude this whole wall of text, I'll repeat again that you shouldn't take my words as something granted. I wrote this final comment because I admit that I've made a mistake and mixed up the info that I've got. And to be honest, if I knew Bloodborne backward compatibility and Bloodborne remaster/port is not the same thing, I wouldn't have made this video back in June. I understand how long it's been since everyone, including myself, started to tease it for the first time and how frustrating it is to wait for an official reveal that keeps not happening. I won't deny that maybe it was not just about dates, but this whole rumor was fake, so despite some parts of it being correct, I insist that you don't get your hopes high about BB PC port.

So please, don't ask me about any updates anymore, because I've promised that I won't spread any rumors about this topic again, and I'll keep my word. I know that it probably won't stop some people from giving me shit for reporting about those rumors, but I can only blame myself for this and it's too late to backtrack. I can say you one thing, I highly doubt I'll ever make videos about speculations around unannounced games again, even if the BB PC port will be confirmed someday, so please don't subscribe to my channel if you are here for more rumors. I never intended to "troll" anyone for views, I haven't monetized this video and never will, so yeah, I'm going back to deal with my personal issues and will disappear again for good.

Also isn't Queen here playtesting the game on PC or am i misremembering?
 

EdwardTivrusky

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Sounds like we need a little bit of a calming mood in here, so people don't forget to pop into this twitch channel and put one of the videos on in the background. Let the words and deeds of Bob Ross calm your souls.



Take care of yourselves, peeps!
Remember if you're not a shareholder, dev or executive then it's just video games.
 

Swenhir

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It's always been the way. America is a huge market so they don't want to upset their customers there so the rest of the world effectively subsidises America's cheaper pricing. Everywhere else has already had price increases where America didn't, then you factor in Sales taxes and regional wages and spending power and the gap increases.

It's not quite that simple but there is an amount of bullshittery that the rest of the world have to put up with compared to America when it comes to console gaming.
And then once the console world has rolled over, it comes over to PC and the defense is "it's been the standard for years!" thus attempting to bypass resistance.
 

Li Kao

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Wait, did the Rift S come with a documentation ? Can't find it right now. I have the box, the headset and the two controllers.
I get the vague feeling that it just came with a leaflet telling the user to go download the Oculus app.
 

InquisitorAles

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Oh well, I was JUST going to post BB info here as well lol. But yeah, in short, Bloodborne PS5 launch and Bloodborne remaster stuff was from separate sources, and supposedly they are not the same thing, I just thought that I need to clarify this detail once again before leaving this topic forever. Again, don't get your hopes too high, there's still a chance it'll all turn out to be a fake after all. The previous night was really confusing, and Sony messaging remains super weird, so yeah, I will stay away from this topic for now on and I hope you'll understand this, guys.
 

Eferis

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Wait, did the Rift S come with a documentation ? Can't find it right now. I have the box, the headset and the two controllers.
I get the vague feeling that it just came with a leaflet telling the user to go download the Oculus app.
It came with a slipcover (on the box), batteries, an adapter and a very small booklet I think I recall.
 
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Li Kao

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It came with a slipcover (on the box), batteries, an adapter and a very small booklet I think I recall.
I have the splipcover, have to check on the adapter but don't see why it wouldn't be here, and a warranty or security booklet I think.
So I have to hunt down the Oculus link to the app download and communicate it to the buyer.
 

fantomena

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Oh well, I was JUST going to post BB info here as well lol. But yeah, in short, Bloodborne PS5 launch and Bloodborne remaster stuff was from separate sources, and supposedly they are not the same thing, I just thought that I need to clarify this detail once again before leaving this topic forever. Again, don't get your hopes too high, there's still a chance it'll all turn out to be a fake after all. The previous night was really confusing, and Sony messaging remains super weird, so yeah, I will stay away from this topic for now on and I hope you'll understand this, guys.
Understandable.

Im just confused, if the rumor ir fake, how is Queen (seemingly) playtesting the game on PC? Im gonna assume she isn't lying, because that would just get the community here mad.
 
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Alextended

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So, I've forgotten my password and I've signed up with a disposable e-mail I no longer have access to, if anything ever happens and I lose my cookies I'll not be able to log back in, any solution to this? Lol. Just realised while trying to log in here from my phone instead of PC and couldn't for the life of me remember it.
 

Swenhir

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So, I've forgotten my password and I've signed up with a disposable e-mail I no longer have access to, if anything ever happens and I lose my cookies I'll not be able to log back in, any solution to this? Lol. Just realised while trying to log in here from my phone instead of PC and couldn't for the life of me remember it.
I think Lash is the only one able to help
 

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RE people selling their old oculus stuff: I really don't think they can be sold for 299 or more any more without ripping off the buyer. I mean, their direct successor is 299, sure there are maybe some drawbacks in return for the upgrades (but the whole facebook deal will apply to all of them just the same soon) but it's the new guaranteed to be supported for a longer time product, and it's not used on top of that sooo, I'd say 199 would be a good price for the seller for a used S and stretching it for the buyer as with just 100 more they get the new thing. Also S controllers will likely no longer be manufactured (as well as cables and stuff) so who knows what happens when someone needs a replacement. It'd be nice if Facebook patched the software/firmware for the S/Quest to be able to pair with and track Quest 2 controllers but I don't see them doing that sadly. I'll probably just give my CV1 away to someone I think would actually make use of PC VR stuff whenever I get a Quest (or any other upgrade path I choose) even though when I bought that it cost a decent amount, especially with the 3rd tracker.
 
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Kyougar

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People are already buying PS4 exclusive for 70€ in Europe. They will keep on buying for 80€.
And yes I fully expect PC games to increase in price as well.
Not all of them. Raising the prices at the start of the Generation is also a big mistake. You have more incentives to just walk away from Console gaming.

Millions of people bought Wii games, even late into the cycle. Millions of people also didn't buy the WiiU or any other console.
The console market is shrinking and the console industry thinks that copying the early 2000's Anime industries strategy of milking your dedicated fans instead of making it more affordable is the way to go.

Many previous console gamers will just walk away from (new-gen) console gaming, the start of the generation is the best time to do it, you haven't invested yet into the new hardware.
I don't see it impacting PC gaming at large. yes, there will be 80€ games but there will also be thousands of games that are not highway robbery.
 

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Oh well, I was JUST going to post BB info here as well lol. But yeah, in short, Bloodborne PS5 launch and Bloodborne remaster stuff was from separate sources, and supposedly they are not the same thing, I just thought that I need to clarify this detail once again before leaving this topic forever. Again, don't get your hopes too high, there's still a chance it'll all turn out to be a fake after all. The previous night was really confusing, and Sony messaging remains super weird, so yeah, I will stay away from this topic for now on and I hope you'll understand this, guys.
How could it be fake if you had sources ? Don't you trust them ?
 

ISee

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Many previous console gamers will just walk away from (new-gen) console gaming,
Not so sure about that. Where are they supposed to go?
Mobile gaming? Streaming Services? Staying on old consoles won't be an option for forever.
I don't think it's that easy or PC gaming an option for the vast majority of people.
 

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I knew JK Rowling was a massive transphobe but maybe I'm naive to be shocked at the doubling down and depth of it.

Its it that hard just to meet people half way, as in respect and support them?

An ugly shadow over the HP game announcement.

In personal gaming news, I can't stop playing issac. Maybe its work stress, seasonal transition, the ease in which you can play the game and still navigate windows on another monitor........ Send help.
 
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InquisitorAles

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Understandable.

Im just confused, if the rumor ir fake, how is Queen (seemingly) playtesting the game on PC? Im gonna assume she isn't lying, because that would just get the community here mad.
I can talk only for myself, but personally I have zero doubts that Queen is not lying about this.
How could it be fake if you had sources ? Don't you trust them ?
Don't get me wrong, I still personally believe it's real and my sources have my full trust. But it's still a rumor, and no matter how many people talk about it and what evidences I saw personally, there's always a chance it won't happen in the end. I've personally heard a few rumors like that in the past that looked like they were definitely going to happen, but nothing came out yet. But to be fair, Bloodborne PC port is incomparable to those cases, because A LOT more people keep teasing it. I just wanted to set the right expectations about this rumor because I don't have any timeframe when it can happen, and I also sick of people blaming me in clickbait and other sins. I have other stuff that I had to deal with in my life right, I don't even make new videos due to lack of energy and time. So I won't be able to keep up with this rumor for a while anyway, and some people would have seen my silence as "proof" it was all fake, despite the fact that I was not the one who started this rumor, and I'm not the only one who talked about it in the past months.
 

Kyougar

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Not so sure about that. Where are they supposed to go?
Mobile gaming? Streaming Services? Staying on old consoles won't be an option for forever.
I don't think it's that easy or PC gaming an option for the vast majority of people.
Millions walked away from the Wii without buying a new console. And Millions more would have no issue with abandoning console gaming and AAA gaming altogether. Either because they are in a new part of their life, they don't have enough money for the system + high priced games, they are mostly mobile gamers in the last year anyway, etc.

Many just bought console games because they had the console already. I bought over 20 PS3 games and zero PS4 games, because I had the PS3 but didn't buy the PS4, I walked away. The last game I bought for the PS3 was Persona 5, i only bought it because it was available for PS3, I wouldn't have bought the game or the PS4 if it was PS4 only. Also, nearly 95% of Playstation and Xbox exclusive games came to PC in this gen anyway, so it was easy to walk away.
 
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