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Vantr said:
That first tweet seems like such a Timmy thing to do. Bring Valve into the conversation because the topic of money came up. "Sure this thing is bad but did you know that Valve makes developers pay 30%?"


So uhhh is Steam good or bad now?
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Based off a lot of his other comments, it goes along the lines of he doesn't think Steam is terrible and he does like some of the stuff that Steam does but he feels like they could still do better and offer more to devs (he mainly keeps on bringing up the 30% fee because of this) but to me it feels like 90% of his argument is a out the 30% but and then 10% of his argument is saying, Steam is not all that bad.
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It's a shame about vanillaware and how they dislike PC.

I have pretty much all of Vanillawares more recent titles. I have Odin Sphere for both Vita and PS4 (I have the PS4 CE). I have Dragons Crown for both Vita and PS4, I have 13 Sentinel for PS4 and Switch. I have Murama for PS Vita along with all its DLC (I have the Vita CE). I have Grimgrimoire for PS5 (I have the CE). And I also pre-ordered Unicorn Overlord CE for both PS5 and Switch.


Oh Vanillawares, why I do my best to help support you and yet you somehow let me down where it counts.
 
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Dead by Daylight looks like crap on PC compared to Xbox, any ideas why? Maybe I’m missing a HD texture lack or something
 
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The 8bitDo mechanical keyboard I got the other day finally arrived - I got the "Fami" edition, as all my 80's love is reserved for the Family Computer (the first machine I ever played a game on).

Its thick and slanted like a real old school IBM keeb, and comes with a funky "action button" peripheral that connects to the back (wired) that you can program to do whatever. Switches are Kailh Box Whites, and the keycaps have hiragana printed under the alphabet letters. There's even a bright red power LED in the upper right for maximum feels. :cat-heart-blob:

The only thing thats off to me about it is zero backlighting. It took some adjustment going back to reading keys using monitor glare again lol
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I find it very hard to be sympathetic at times.

It's difficult to care about the big companies having to pay there 30% (and we all now they won't be paying 30% on something like FIFA) when they have so many predatory systems in place to nickel and dime you. At best it's Ubisoft and ther Timesavers. At worst Fifa Ultimate Team.

Or claims that games could get cheaper if everybody lowered their store take. Like fuck they will. We have already seen that the prices didn't change when EGS exclusives come around.

It's also a warning sign when they use words like TAX for a store cut. Or talk about Monopolies.

This just comes across as diversionary. Somehow in an attempt to defend Unity.
 
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The idea that games would get cheaper at a lower cut is obviously the most brainshit insane take possible.
AAA companies in particular put so much effort getting you slowly used to paying 60€, then 70€, they aren't going to undo this pain threshold they increased in their customers for the sake of giving me a discount at the cost of their own margins.

And in a world where everything us utilizing

Basegame
Deluxe Edition
Premium Edition
Season Pass or Battle Pass
DLC

I have like o empathy anyways, doubly so now that the cost of living in most countries is exploding.

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Dead by Daylight looks like crap on PC compared to Xbox, any ideas why? Maybe I’m missing a HD texture lack or something
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Does it look better on xbox?
It definitely looks like crap tho yes
 
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thekeats1999 said:
I find it very hard to be sympathetic at times.

It's difficult to care about the big companies having to pay there 30% (and we all now they won't be paying 30% on something like FIFA) when they have so many predatory systems in place to nickel and dime you. At best it's Ubisoft and ther Timesavers. At worst Fifa Ultimate Team.

Or claims that games could get cheaper if everybody lowered their store take. Like fuck they will. We have already seen that the prices didn't change when EGS exclusives come around.

It's also a warning sign when they use words like TAX for a store cut. Or talk about Monopolies.

This just comes across as diversionary. Somehow in an attempt to defend Unity.
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Basically all this.

Games are getting more expensive, and executives are hoovering that up. Any AAA developer who thinks shrinking Steam's 30% cut is going to benefit consumers or themselves is absolutely deluded (and a useless idiot) - the executives and shareholders will take every single penny of it and continue to plead poverty.

The reality is Valve's 30% (that isn't really 30%) funds a lot. More than most of the console platforms that claim to use it to subsidise hardware.

And the only reason Epic is railing against Steam's 30% cut is because it's 30% they can't take for themselves. If Epic had their way and created a vacuum where Steam didn't take 30%, you'd watch all their bullshit fill that void.
 
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Time ago they said games would be cheaper being digital than the retailer disc edition.
These days usually you can find the disc version quite cheaper than digital edition and something like the ultimate edition get a figure and some other goodies (yep ugly as hell but is something you don’t get on digital ultimate edition at the same price).
Publishers got the retailers margin benefits with no improvement for the costumers. It’s the same fight as always.
Games wouldn’t be cheaper without Steam. They just want that margin to please investors and high executives salaries.
 
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hersheyfan said:
The 8bitDo mechanical keyboard I got the other day finally arrived - I got the "Fami" edition, as all my 80's love is reserved for the Family Computer (the first machine I ever played a game on).

Its thick and slanted like a real old school IBM keeb, and comes with a funky "action button" peripheral that connects to the back (wired) that you can program to do whatever. Switches are Kailh Box Whites, and the keycaps have hiragana printed under the alphabet letters. There's even a bright red power LED in the upper right for maximum feels. :cat-heart-blob:

The only thing thats off to me about it is zero backlighting. It took some adjustment going back to reading keys using monitor glare again lol
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No Numpad?! Better put this into a spoiler box with trigger warnings before Li Kao sees it
 
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Mivey said:
No Numpad?! Better put this into a spoiler box with trigger warnings before Li Kao sees it
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Li Kao catching strays lol :tightly-closed-eyes:

I actually also prefer keyboards with numpads - I'm a finance lawyer at a bank, so i need numpads to function at work.

But ive learned to grudgingly accept (and even love) TKL keyboards on my gaming-only hardware. :blobmorning2:
 
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I have a DuckyOne 2, which is a super nice wired keyboard that has a numpad. Like some of you, I can't do work on a TKL.

But I do have a TKL in my living room for gaming on my lapboard. In those instances, the space is appreciated.
 
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C-Dub said:
Woah. End of an era. I wonder if Kamiya is getting off a sinking ship, or if he just wants to strike out on his own.
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I feel that Kamiya might be following in Nagoshi's footsteps, with a bespoke studio funded by Netease.

If this turns out to be the case, theyre really trolling Tencent at this point - after they spent all that money investing in PG, NetEase poaches their top guy?

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I have a DuckyOne 2, which is a super nice wired keyboard that has a numpad. Like some of you, I can't do work on a TKL.

But I do have a TKL in my living room for gaming on my lapboard. In those instances, the space is appreciated.
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TKL's are indeed great for lapboards!
I use a TKL to play DJMax Respect on my Xbox (couch setup), its fantastic. :kissing-face-with-smiling-eyes:
 
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C-Dub said:
I have a DuckyOne 2, which is a super nice wired keyboard that has a numpad. Like some of you, I can't do work on a TKL.

But I do have a TKL in my living room for gaming on my lapboard. In those instances, the space is appreciated.
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Hey.. A fellow Ducky user.
I got the Ducky One 2 Skyline
I have been thinking about getting a backlit One 3.
 
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FunnyJay said:
I got an email from GOG.com thanking me for purchasing a game that I have not purchased. :fearful-face:
I immediately checked my bank, and nothing has happened there. Then I changed my GOG password and contacted their support to see what has happened.

This is... unsettling.
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Are you sure its an official GOG email? Double check all the letters in the sender section to make sure its not some scam bs. I get those fake ones all the time pretending to be amazon.
 
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FunnyJay said:
I got an email from GOG.com thanking me for purchasing a game that I have not purchased. :fearful-face:
I immediately checked my bank, and nothing has happened there. Then I changed my GOG password and contacted their support to see what has happened.

This is... unsettling.
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yuraya said:
Are you sure its an official GOG email? Double check all the letters in the sender section to make sure its not some scam bs. I get those fake ones all the time pretending to be amazon.
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I got that too and was about to request a refund and then decided to check the gog Community and noticed this thread

Strange order for Fahrenheit: Indigo Prophecy Remastered, page 4 - Forum - GOG.com

Download the best games on Windows & Mac. A vast selection of titles, DRM-free, with free goodies, and lots of pure customer love.
www.gog.com www.gog.com

Someone at gog messed up, but we didn't get charged, if i read it right, the game was just updated

Edit: hektor was faster ;)
 
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Looks like Devolver has rejected a few subscription service deals recently.


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Devolver Digital seemingly passed on a bunch of Game Pass/PS Plus deals recently. It says subscription revenue is down after it rejected agreements that "undervalued" it's games (via @MauroNL3)

Revenue and profit are down after a bunch of delays.
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Sony and Microsoft must think subscriber numbers have peaked, because enshittification has begun.

Prices go up for consumers, developer cuts go down. Squeezing on both sides.

And people say Steam is bad.
 
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Could I function as a human being without numpad ?
I want colors but I’m not sold on the available colors.
Backlight ?
Get used to qwerty or continue azerty and have to keybind each motherfucking game ?
Wait, how do you use arrow keys without arrow keys ?
Oh yeah, and the switch choice.
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Fucking rabbit hole.

Meanwhile, my logitech illuminated enter key is still in its socket by no small miracle.
 
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I bought a mechanical keyboard quite recently. It's TKL. Do I miss numpad? Not really, I can live without it. RBG lightning? It's a fun thing, but quite useless as my eyes are not on the keyboard. Arrow keys are important too me, as a programmer I need to navigate the editor without pressing any extra FN key. I use a lot of key navigation combinations, so pressing the extra FN key is a no no for me.

Currently using a Keychron K8 Pro with Brown switches. At first I was afraid of buying incorrect keyboard, but this is a purchase that I don't regret :)

Still wondering if the 8BitDo keyboard will be available in ISO layout. Looking for another keyboard for work :)
 
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Li Kao said:
Eww so you need to use the FN key when you don’t have arrows ?
That’s it, that’s my line in the sand.
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That's why I like 75%, where you still have arrow keys. I could probably go down to 65%, I don't need the function keys that often, day to day, using FN keys for those would be ok. It's just that I don't mind the keyboard being tall, so the reduction in space there doesn't seem as useful as the reduction in width.
 
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GOG sent out an email regarding todays mishap

Regarding Fahrenheit: Indigo Prophecy Remastered Purchase Confirmation Mail


We would like to inform you that all users that previously purchased the original version of Fahrenheit, such as yourself, received the newly released Remastered version for free on its launch. However, due to a technical issue, you were sent an order completion email which would mistakenly indicate that you purchased the Fahrenheit: Indigo Prophecy Remastered instead of receiving a free copy.




We apologize for any inconvenience caused by this error, and at the same time want to reassure you that no money was taken from your account nor was the account affected in any way – the order was a gift and the game was added to your GOG library free of charge.




While we are currently working on a fix, the Remastered version of the game may disappear from your library for a couple of hours, but we guarantee it will reappear once we resolve it.


Once again, our sincere apologies for the confusion. If you have any questions, be sure to reach out to our Support Team.
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Not a good sign that he's leaving the studio while the project he was directing (Project GG) is still ostensibly in development. It's pretty clear that they've had a rough few years outside their Nintendo-published output (even Sol Cresta had multiple delays iirc); wonder if they're still developing that new proprietary engine or switching to Unreal

C-Dub said:
Looks like Devolver has rejected a few subscription service deals recently.


Twitter quote:


Sony and Microsoft must think subscriber numbers have peaked, because enshittification has begun.

Prices go up for consumers, developer cuts go down. Squeezing on both sides.

And people say Steam is bad.
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interesting. I still find Game Pass to be a good value and I'm currently prepaid for another year or so, but I'll see how things look over the next few months before I buy more Black Friday 3-month discounts
 
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LRB1983 said:
Time ago they said games would be cheaper being digital than the retailer disc edition.
These days usually you can find the disc version quite cheaper than digital edition and something like the ultimate edition get a figure and some other goodies (yep ugly as hell but is something you don’t get on digital ultimate edition at the same price).
Publishers got the retailers margin benefits with no improvement for the costumers. It’s the same fight as always.
Games wouldn’t be cheaper without Steam. They just want that margin to please investors and high executives salaries.
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I thinks it's been like this since at least maybe 2018 or so. Where before it would be cheaper to buy digital games and later on physical would get cheaper. Now a days it's way cheaper to buy a physical copy, especially since they tend to go on sale more often now (a lot of price drops).

Is it possible it's like this since there are relatively more game releases now a days with way more publishers than there have ever been releasing new stuff and stores just not having enough space for it all.


It is possible that before physical used to be more popular than digital and they use to get an X amount of copies and because of how popular titles were, that stores were able to sell a Y amount of games constantly. But that's no longer the case and they are maybe only selling 1/2 of Y amount nowadays (or some other value) and because there is going to be even more releases that they have to just drop the price down in order to get people to buy the X amount of copies that they still have in stock.


I'm looking at Wario64 deals right now and some physical copies of games are going for $20-30 USD about less than a year after they release. Meanwhile on PC some of these games will be $25-30 at the cheapest now adays. At least on PC it's no longer a race to the bottom like it used to be years ago.




By the way speaking of racing to the bottom. I'm curious as to what Nintendo will do with the eShop for Switch 2. If Nintendo decides to do BC that will be a double edge sword. On one hand you get to access all of your Switch games both physical and digital which is good for people (I doubt you will get any gains for a lot of games and that they will be capped at something. You will likely get a constant 30fps on a lot more games), how ever because of that it will likely limiting people buying a bunch of new games since there is no need since you can still play your old games (after the Switch released and after people played Breath of the Wild, there was nothing else on the Switch if you were an indie dev that was making a Wii U title and you didn't abandon Nintendo then you got rewarded with the Switch and your game potentially selling hundreds of thousands of copies).

The biggest issue with Switch 2 will be the eShop. Since 2017 Nintendo has hardly made any changes to the eShop!!!! They at most, changed an eShop policy of how low you can price your game. I doubt expect Nintendo to be spending million of dollars on redesigning the new eShop to be more like Steam were it recommends games to users based of that users prefers and stuff like that. How ever if you just keep adding more stuff to the eShop without trying to make it easier to browses though the available games then Indies just aren't going to sell that well and the main way you will be able to get your game noticed is through a Nindie Direct.
YuqiLumia said:
I really don't like game subscriptions.
Buy your Indie games.
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Does Humble Bundle count as a game subscription?
 
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By the way speaking of racing to the bottom. I'm curious as to what Nintendo will do with the eShop for Switch 2. If Nintendo decides to do BC that will be a double edge sword. On one hand you get to access all of your Switch games both physical and digital which is good for people (I doubt you will get any gains for a lot of games and that they will be capped at something. You will likely get a constant 30fps on a lot more games), how ever because of that it will likely limiting people buying a bunch of new games since there is no need since you can still play your old games (after the Switch released and after people played Breath of the Wild, there was nothing else on the Switch if you were an indie dev that was making a Wii U title and you didn't abandon Nintendo then you got rewarded with the Switch and your game potentially selling hundreds of thousands of copies).
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I'm very interested on Switch 2 -I'm ok if it ends being a portable basePS4 console-. That (BC) is my main concern about Switch 2. Nintendo is being too opaque with BC info. I have more than 50 games on my Switch digital library and would be pretty cool be able to play them on next Nintendo console.
But if not I'm at the point I'm quite tired to start a new digital collection on other platform.
Post 3DS consoles Nintendo implement the account system to digital stores (before that purchases were attached to consoles and not to account and if you bought another system you had to call Nintendo costumer service to redownload your games).
Let's see what happens, Some developers have expressed opposition to the idea of backwards compatibility in order to release remasters, etc... https://www.vgchartz.com/article/45...y-you-need-to-give-consumers-what-they-wants/
 
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Deku said:
Still wondering if the 8BitDo keyboard will be available in ISO layout. Looking for another keyboard for work :)
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Ah, you're a coder! That explains the strong, non-negotiable preference for the ISO layout. :heroblob:

Sadly, as far as I can tell an ISO layout isnt in the cards, at least for this model. 8bitDo's target audience is the mass market, so it makes sense that they'd go for the most widespread layout for their first stab at it... plus, 8bitDo is also a Chinese company, and China is ANSI all day every day.
 
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ISO is the de facto standard for UK English keyboards. I also think it’s the preference for International English.

It’s not just a coder thing. Some people have only ever used ISO.
 
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