I completely agree about both God of War and Horizon being overhyped to high heavens. They are solid games and technically brilliant, but GOTY they ain't.
Okay if you like TLOU2 then I can leave you alone.I liked God of War. Just not as much as most seem to. I guess I just naturally gravitate toward writing about what can be improved in a game so maybe I seem more negative than I intend.
TLOU2 got a 9 from me earlier in this thread.
ICO is boring/overrated, but SotC is a much better "boss rush" game than No More Heroes could ever dream to be. Especially with the gorgeous remake (I only played the remaster, admittedly).I agree with most of that actually
GoW 2018 was solid but rather unimpressive given the hype imo
Horizon I dropped cos its just another damn open world game
SotC I haven't played but I tried Ico and was very bored
Fair enough. I did enjoy exploring the changes in districts at different times of day at first. And those areas became playgrounds to test out new abilities and weapons. I guess I had a fairly high threshold for this as the repetition only sunk in at the 80% mark.And I am not sure how quickly it is going to become repetitive but I am already not a fan of having to go through the beach and tunnes again and again.
The thing is, you didn't really finish Nier until you went through all of the routes. That's really how the plot has been designed. Which, is complete bullshit, but being hard to play and punishing the player is kinda the thing about Yoko Taro games.Finished Nier Automata i was expecting to like it more but didn't enough to play the 2nd playthrough stopped near beginning of it, it was a decent experience i'll give it a 7/10
If I remember correctly route B does at least at the start is very similar to the first one so yeah, can't really blame anyone for not going through with it or not seeing the need to do it unless they are told about it.I feel the way it presents the information doesn't help NieR:Automata's case. But it's not a "second" playthrough, instead a continuation of the first. As are the other two routes, that are vastly different from the original game.
Only once you've played all of them have you completed the game.
Agreed Route B is similar. But it adds depth and context to the game and reframes everything by shifting perspective.If I remember correctly route B does at least at the start is very similar to the first one so yeah, can't really blame anyone for not going through with it or not seeing the need to do it unless they are told about it.
Hard to judge if it's worth for someone to complete all the routes or not, but if he gave a 7/10 just for route A it's probably worth a try. For me the other routes really did elevate the game and story to another level for me.
The thing is, you didn't really finish Nier until you went through all of the routes. That's really how the plot has been designed. Which, is complete bullshit, but being hard to play and punishing the player is kinda the thing about Yoko Taro games.
not saying you should go through with, clearly not a good idea if you didn't feel motivated enough. Just pointing out that the Route A, in and of itself, is not complete.
Oh didn't know it's a more unique playthrough on the 2nd? In the beginning hour or two of 2nd playthrough it seemed it's the exact same as first playthrough but you play as 9sI feel the way it presents the information doesn't help NieR:Automata's case. But it's not a "second" playthrough, instead a continuation of the first. As are the other two routes, that are vastly different from the original game.
Only once you've played all of them have you completed the game.
Without spoiling anything, Route B is definitely going to show you lots of things you saw before, but it starts to deviate more as the plot goes on. As C-Dub has nicely said, it's about shift in perspective which allows you to more fully understand the story.Guess i should have played a bit more, the game didn't really give any indication it would be new story etc thought it would be exact repeat of 1st, already uninstalled it guess i'll give it a go again soon again later when i reinstall it again thanks
Route 3/4 is where it goes off the rails (in good way).Oh didn't know it's a more unique playthrough on the 2nd? In the beginning hour or two of 2nd playthrough it seemed it's the exact same as first playthrough but you play as 9s
Guess i should have played a bit more, the game didn't really give any indication it would be new story etc thought it would be exact repeat of 1st, already uninstalled it guess i'll give it a go again soon again later when i reinstall it again thanks
I think you’ve sold meCompleted Deathloop (PC)
I'd like to re-emphasise that if you don't like roguelikes/roguelites like me, that shouldn't be an impediment to playing Deathloop because the parts they lifted from roguelikes are so wafer thin, and they've fleshed them out in a way that pushes them beyond that horrible genre in every way imaginable.
If you don't like BioShock/System Shock games, then I'd 100% say to avoid Deathloop. But if you loved those games, you will love this.
I did not like Hades because its a roguelike for people who like roguelikes. I don't buy it's for people who don't like them.I think you’ve sold me
have you played Hades? Cos that’s the other big “rogue like for people that don’t like them” and I have been unconvinced by everything I’ve heard of that.
Curious of your thoughts and how this may compare?
Thanks, you’ve sold meI did not like Hades because its a roguelike for people who like roguelikes. I don't buy it's for people who don't like them.
It's like putting pineapple on pizza. You love it or you hate it. 99% of roguelikes are akin to putting tinned pineapple on your pizza - some of them will be quality pineapple chunks on the pizza. Some of them will be flavourless watery lumps of shite. Hades, by comparison, is fresh pineapple on pizza. But it's still pineapple on pizza, right?
On the flip side, I loved Deathloop because it ain't a roguelike.
FixedBut it's still a fucking pineapple on pizza, right?
I almost put "fucking pineapple on pizza" but in my old age I am more conciliatory towards people who like it. It's still nasty, but I'm done crying about food crimes.Fixed
(great analogy, I laughed..and nodded)
I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. I always get nervous when someone follows my game recommendation because I really hope you don't pay money for Deathloop and hate it. But if you've read my review and the pizza analogy and this post and you've now decided that Deathloop is for you, I'd say go for it. Just be wary that the game does have technical issues on PC so you may want to hold off on a purchase until Arkane have sorted those out.Thanks, you’ve sold me
Is this not just the regular Tales of trademark? I feel like they've always had trouble ending their games properly and landing the ship. You can almost tell when you're reaching the last 30-50% of the game by how they try to wrap things up clumsily lol. Also by the time you see your first enemy recolor, it's kinda like "oh, we're about that deep into the game now."Negative
- Second half of main story. It tries to provide answers to some questions, but in the end more questions are being created. The story also throws tons of new concepts to players within a short period of time
- Pacing. Watched two to three hours of cutscenes non-stop during one late-game segment. Exposition after exposition.
- Enemy variety. Another major problem of the game. The variety is very limited and you fight the same wolf / boar / birds etc. throughout the game, including non-human boss
Nope, never that bad in past games. Cutscene every three steps, and putting major information on a computer terminal. Recoloring enemies were also common in the past, but this time it is more noticeable because it is comparative less variety.Is this not just the regular Tales of trademark? I feel like they've always had trouble ending their games properly and landing the ship. You can almost tell when you're reaching the last 30-50% of the game by how they try to wrap things up clumsily lol. Also by the time you see your first enemy recolor, it's kinda like "oh, we're about that deep into the game now."
I haven't purchased Arise yet but how would you rank it vs the other games (if you played them)?