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yuraya

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With exception of prince of persia I could see that entire 3rd party list come out in 2021.

Also throw in Baldurs Gate 3 into the mix. Gonna be a good year.
 
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Li Kao

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I managed to cancel Doom's update before it could infect my computer.

My refund request was denied though... from Valve's point of view it's somewhat understandable since I already have 23h of play time.

But this is the last time I purchase a game from Bethesda. They can go fuuuuuuck themselves and I hope somebody sues them.
Exactly the same. I knew full well the ridiculous chance of obtaining a refund, but I can't help but feel let down by Valve.
I have what ? Two refunds since the whole shebang was instated, I'm clearly not a refund abuser.

This poses a growing problem with online games, at the whim of a publisher your game can drastically change and you have absolutely nothing to say about it. Enjoyed the regular launch ? Here's the MTX shop ! Enjoyed the game, you play solo ? Well enjoy our anti-cheat nevertheless.
 

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been playing some halo and good lord why does the movement feel so slooooow. i guess i need to look in setting and see if i can adjust anything

i also played a MP game and got absolutey wrecked lol. made me realize why i hate MP games
 

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Exactly the same. I knew full well the ridiculous chance of obtaining a refund, but I can't help but feel let down by Valve.
I have what ? Two refunds since the whole shebang was instated, I'm clearly not a refund abuser.

This poses a growing problem with online games, at the whim of a publisher your game can drastically change and you have absolutely nothing to say about it. Enjoyed the regular launch ? Here's the MTX shop ! Enjoyed the game, you play solo ? Well enjoy our anti-cheat nevertheless.
Yeah the forced updates is a growing problem, for all the reasons you state and more.

I mean don't forget about other big disasters like Warcraft III Remastered - wiped out the old version as far as downloads! I still have my disks but this shit is terrible.

In the old days you chose what patches you installed, and the only reason it was a pain is because you had to go to some third party site and search for em. But instead they've traded this inconvenience for an extremely serious determent to usability and accessibility. And worst still this seems to be the entire game development paradigm at the moment. Of course this would have to be an advanced user feature, and I don't expect old functionality to be maintained, but at least provided!
 

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Playing Halo 2 Multiplayer has been a fun nostalgia trip. I remember these maps and dying a lot on them LOL.
 
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This must be the most boring Saturday of all 2020 for me and I don't know why.

I'm not in the mood of playing today, I'm not in the mood of watching a show and I can't take a walk yet due to quarantine, what a day :blobweary:
Have you tried re-arranging your room? It calms me when I feel like that, and soon enough I feel the mood for those things.
 

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This must be the most boring Saturday of all 2020 for me and I don't know why.

I'm not in the mood of playing today, I'm not in the mood of watching a show and I can't take a walk yet due to quarantine, what a day :blobweary:
I just came off of a 2 week period where I felt like this. Life felt meaningless and all I could do was listen to music all day.

Boy was it terrible. At least Terraria 1.4 is out today.
 

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Question for you Discord users: If you're watching someone's stream through Discord, how do you return to the text chat while watching? We figured out a workaround, but that can't be the solution. We're also having a hard time finding anyone with the same question, so we're convinced we're just missing something obvious.
 
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Can you spot the issue? It’s right here, called sleep(1).

It is well known that sleeping functions in Windows are relatively relaxed about imposed sleep durations. Depending on numerous factors like OS load and priority of other threads in the same process, it’s not unrealistic to expect a “1-millisecond” sleep to take more than 15 milliseconds!
In layman’s terms, the process time is a very big number and it grows fast, while the inverse of frequency is a very small, albeit constant, number. What seems to happen here is that after around 75-80 minutes of gameplay, those calculations start to drift. At around 3 hours, the process time gets so big frame limiter starts to lock at 58 FPS, then at 4 hours it springs up to 62 FPS.
SilentPatch for The Wonderful 101: Remastered, fixing frame pacing issues
Japanese devs, amirite?
 
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Have you tried re-arranging your room? It calms me when I feel like that, and soon enough I feel the mood for those things.
Yes, I cable-managed all the house creating a central server for all the screens possible and now I'm done xd

I just came off of a 2 week period where I felt like this. Life felt meaningless and all I could do was listen to music all day.

Boy was it terrible. At least Terraria 1.4 is out today.
Well, I guess I guess this will pass at some point :/
 

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So Fallout 76..

It's clear that this is not a Fallout game that fans should expect. It's an open world survival crafting game first and foremost painted in Fallout coat, and it does a great job at it. In fact, I think it's probably the best and most polished compared to millions of other games in the same genre out there. The production value is not even comparable, from visuals, voice acting, quests, combat encounters, and crafting, everything are above the competitors. The quests are your regular Fallout 4 fare, there are choices, but I don't expect anything too deep in the RPG mechanics. Especially since the SPECIAL works entirely different in this game.



It's mostly Fallout 4, but with prettier graphics and other players around you. It sounds simple, but the online part is very important to enhance the experience in 76. There's no save scumming nor cheating (with mods/trainers), so exploring and finding stuff are meaningful. Every single thing does matter because it can help to improve your character. In a single player Fallout, character progression doesn't really matter, as your main goal is to beat the game. But in a multiplayer environment, there's this urge to get better so that you can show off to people. Completing events and objective with other players seamlessly is quite a joy too. It's really a new kind of Fallout. When you accept the game as it is, you'll understand why there are people who enjoy it. It's also very casual friendly, and it's interesting how the community was made in this game.

I find myself enjoying the game a lot, and I might actually buy the game in this sale.
 

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Question for you Discord users: If you're watching someone's stream through Discord, how do you return to the text chat while watching? We figured out a workaround, but that can't be the solution. We're also having a hard time finding anyone with the same question, so we're convinced we're just missing something obvious.
Just click on the text chat on the channels menu.
 
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Playing Halo 2 Multiplayer has been a fun nostalgia trip. I remember these maps and dying a lot on them LOL.
There's been several area's in the campaign where I switched back to original graphics and immediately felt that throwback nostalgia. Amazing.

I'm almost done with the campaign and after playing through it with controller and M/K I have to admit Halo is just more fun with a controller. The latest resurgence of fast paced shooters like Doom made me realize how painfully boring hiding behind cover just to refill your health is. It's especially apparent on higher difficulties where you are forced to constantly hide to pick off enemies one by one. However on my couch setup I enjoy the slower pace much more. The controls are also way more intuitive on controller since I still have the muscle memory from back in the day from hundreds of hours in Halo MP.

Also it's nice to have a multiplayer FPS on PC where you don't get completely wrecked if you don't choose to play with M/K. Competing with a controller in CS, Valorant, R6, Destiny 2 and PUBG is just no fun at all.
 
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I follow security/hacker twitter and I have heard of scary things from both EAC and Battleeye... EAC JUST THIS WEEK. Might not be an active 0-day, but definitely vulnerable surface area. It was actually that news that I heard either the day I heard of this Denuvo anti-cheat or the day before. That made me even more anxious about this release.
You should cite these "scary things". If there was a security issue with EAC, it would be significant news and worth discussing. After all, the central premise is that these drivers are secure. The entire reputation of kernel-based anti-cheat rests upon the software being secure and detecting cheaters.
And yeah, one of the bigger problems is this is completely brand new. It hasn't been in the world for more than days! Real world testing is always different from internal and external analysis. Installing this right now would be as risky as installing some kernel level game enhancement software from a random company in the first week of release.
It has never been a problem before. Why would it be a problem now? This isn't some random company. This isn't Capcom with their shitty Street Fighter anti-cheat that didn't hold up to 5 seconds of scrutiny because it had a super obvious backdoor problem. This is from Denuvo, who are responsible for one of the most successful anti-tamper solutions on the market. Their technical skills and quality of work are adequately demonstrated.

Someone has to be the first game to use the new anti-cheat. If a security issue manifests I will gladly eat crow. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I don't see why it would happen. The idea that one of the most security-oriented and scrutinized drivers in the system will be a security hole is highly, highly implausible. Nothing is impossible, but this whole thing reeks of paranoia and fearmongering. Well intentioned, sometimes, I think. But this feels like anti-Denuvo rhetoric under a different umbrella. People latched onto flawed arguments around Vanguard and are now repeating them verbatim for this anti-cheat. All these buzzwords about "kernel anti-cheat" and "ring 0" as being some scary thing you should be worried about appeared very recently.

There were people who spread claims about the Epic Games Launcher spying on your because IT READS YOUR CERTIFICATES. And it's like, "Yes... That's how Windows works. You need the certificates to connect to the internet over HTTPS." Totally normal behavior shared by all contemporaries gets spun as nefarious and scary. Complete nonsense got thousands of upvotes on Reddit because people wanted to believe that EGS was evil Chinese spyware. Now people farm karma on Reddit by weaving horror stories about benign anti-cheat systems with no known security vulnerabilities and rigorous safety precautions. (It's kind of amazing how many people glossed over that Vanguard was incapable of bricking your PC by disabling mouse/keyboard drivers, for instance, since a simple reboot would make them work again.)
 
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pillars 2 performance is getting annoying. im not even on highest settings and getting stutter and a lot of audio static sounds/cutting out. def dont have audio issues in other games
 

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I like how you have no arguments other than putting down everyone else because you're an authority parroting other arguments that are also online (pretty much like taking VNN's word as gospel in other threads around here, apparently who you choose to believe is always an authority and everyone else dumb, misguided, if well intentioned to be polite, etc.). Sorry but I don't think it's nice that EGS is such a mess if I have installed Fallen Order on my PC on Steam it gets confused and thinks I own it there and puts it in my library and I don't know in what shady ways (much like steamspy practices) they use that data they steal from me without my permission, without having ever linked my Steam account or whatever other function they had done in an oh so innocently haphazard way completely bypassing users and not giving any option on the matter when they could have used existing clean apis without raising these transparency issues. If some conspiracy theorist took things a little too far and there are dumb arguments online doesn't take from the fact there are issues to raise. Same for Denuvo.
 
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Ascheroth

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This must be the most boring Saturday of all 2020 for me and I don't know why.

I'm not in the mood of playing today, I'm not in the mood of watching a show and I can't take a walk yet due to quarantine, what a day :blobweary:
You could read Mother of Learning (and thank me later :p )

It's just a short 800k words (and completed) :p
I binged it in around a week a few weeks back, it's that addicting :cold-sweat:
 

low-G

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You should cite these "scary things". If there was a security issue with EAC, it would be significant news and worth discussing. After all, the central premise is that these drivers are secure. The entire reputation of kernel-based anti-cheat rests upon the software being secure and detecting cheaters.

It has never been a problem before. Why would it be a problem now? This isn't some random company. This isn't Capcom with their shitty Street Fighter anti-cheat that didn't hold up to 5 seconds of scrutiny because it had a super obvious backdoor problem. This is from Denuvo, who are responsible for one of the most successful anti-tamper solutions on the market. Their technical skills and quality of work are adequately demonstrated.

Someone has to be the first game to use the new anti-cheat. If a security issue manifests I will gladly eat crow. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I don't see why it would happen. The idea that one of the most security-oriented and scrutinized drivers in the system will be a security hole is highly, highly implausible. Nothing is impossible, but this whole thing reeks of paranoia and fearmongering. Well intentioned, sometimes, I think. But this feels like anti-Denuvo rhetoric under a different umbrella. People latched onto flawed arguments around Vanguard and are now repeating them verbatim for this anti-cheat. All these buzzwords about "kernel anti-cheat" and "ring 0" as being some scary thing you should be worried about appeared very recently.

There were people who spread claims about the Epic Games Launcher spying on your because IT READS YOUR CERTIFICATES. And it's like, "Yes... That's how Windows works. You need the certificates to connect to the internet over HTTPS." Totally normal behavior shared by all contemporaries gets spun as nefarious and scary. Complete nonsense got thousands of upvotes on Reddit because people wanted to believe that EGS was evil Chinese spyware. Now people farm karma on Reddit by weaving horror stories about benign anti-cheat systems with no known security vulnerabilities and rigorous safety precautions. (It's kind of amazing how many people glossed over that Vanguard was incapable of bricking your PC by disabling mouse/keyboard drivers, for instance, since a simple reboot would make them work again.)
FWIW, I have so many interests that I cannot possibly bookmark every interesting thing I see in a day in case I need to cite it later. But if I see it again I'll definitely provide a source.

I've long been concerned about various drivers - avoiding Razer hardware to avoid the software religiously, avoiding games like Black Desert Online for their anti-cheat systems. But the attention is really ramping up as well. Again - It's a problem now because it's a single player game I was playing suddenly adding the sort of software I avoid, less than religiously, but in practice. I think Ring 0 is something people should always be cognizant of, and also to Ring -2, etc...

It's not that I even expect an imminent security issue, it's that I simply don't play that. The more security risks I can avoid the better. I apply BIOS updates with critical security features even if the window of vulnerability may be not realistic and even if it means reduced performance. My work has security implications as well, which I also tend to pretty religiously. Hell, I never give my real name on social media, closed my Facebook account, etc... I've disassembled software that I had suspicions about to give a cursory inspection. I am security focused, just short of obsessed.

I don't expect everyone pay that much attention to security, but I think the talk about Doom Eternal is wholly appropriate, constructive, and progressive.
 

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So, my brother is bugging me to spend $25 on Deep Rock Galactic for co op.


Any experiences you all can share? He says that its like Left 4 Dead.....
I can only speak from a single-player perspective, but I absolutely love DRG.

It's intoxicating mix of shooting, map traversal & resource gathering.

Game engine is amazingly optimized and the visuals are gorgeous.

Varied upgrade paths keep you coming back for more.

EXCELLENT title.
 

fantomena

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Ah shit, got totally captured by Crusader Kings 2. Was just gonna check out the learning scenario for a few min and despite not knowing what I did around 70% of the time, I played for 2-3 hours.

Had to save and quit it. Alfonso died, so Leon is reigning with Alfonsos kid as heir. Wut.
 

Li Kao

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I can only speak from a single-player perspective, but I absolutely love DRG.

It's intoxicating mix of shooting, map traversal & resource gathering.

Game engine is amazingly optimized and the visuals are gorgeous.

Varied upgrade paths keep you coming back for more.

EXCELLENT title.
Even in single player ? Damn :anguished-face:
 

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Playing through the different learning scenarios in games. Hearts of Iron 4 was easier to understand than Crusader Kings 2, but I think learning one game helps me out with other games too.

I can only speak from a single-player perspective, but I absolutely love DRG.

It's intoxicating mix of shooting, map traversal & resource gathering.

Game engine is amazingly optimized and the visuals are gorgeous.

Varied upgrade paths keep you coming back for more.

EXCELLENT title.
Yeah, I played the tutorial yesterday and I really liked it. Only confusing thing was that I didn't find any gold. :p
 

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Just finished the EU basic and advanced tutorials.

EU IV and HoI IV was easiest to understand while Crusader Kings 2 was more difficulty to understand, all were really grabbing me though.
 
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I can only speak from a single-player perspective, but I absolutely love DRG.

It's intoxicating mix of shooting, map traversal & resource gathering.

Game engine is amazingly optimized and the visuals are gorgeous.

Varied upgrade paths keep you coming back for more.

EXCELLENT title.
Hold on, it can be played solo?
I hate you for telling me this. Sigh... «add to wishlist»
 

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I played (and finished, it's not long) Helltaker today.



That was really fun and nicely polished for a freebie.
It starts out as a simple puzzle game, and then it becomes a hard puzzle game for a bit, and finally it's a pretty challenging action game, but with generous checkpointing.

Also, it already has >2000 reviews on Steam and sits at 98% positive.
 

Swenhir

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just finished watching this great GDC talk:


Confirms several talking points I had for years.
  • know your genre/Audience
  • show gameplay in trailers, show UI in screenshots
  • customers look for negative reviews first, are an important buying decision

he shows how users normally shop when they wishlist or buy a game, what they are looking at, what decision and why they are making it, etc.

some conclusions:
  • 0, ZERO people bought games full price,
  • no-one bought game because of twitter mentions/recommendations, nearly no-one bought games because of Discord or Reddit recommendations
  • nearly no-one wishlisted games because of twitter, discord or Reddit.
  • nearly no-one bought/wishlisted games because of streaming/lets players
the biggest decision-makers?
- Friends and Bundles are the main drivers of wishlisting and buying games

He also talks about how to make wishlisted games into sales and mentions the abandoned-cart problem.

His ending solution/recommendation of sales and bundles isn't great but that's the reality for indie developers.
He also doesn't dive into genre-defining games and no-discount indies, but I understand that he speaks to those tiny indies who sell 500 games and not the Factorio's and FTL'ers.
That is scarily accurate to my own practices outside of the few darling studios close and dear to my heart. Good watch.

Also I have to second people here, denuvo's issues aren't simply technical when they botch the implementation, it's about removing control from the user. Forced updates, online check-in and now something that sits at ring-0, at first glance for anti-cheat purposes... but also to secure MT and apparently greatly hinders performance. These botched releases make me wonder why exactly we should be okay with giving them this degree of trust in both their intentions and technical acumen when they so clearly demonstrated they don't pass muster in either.

I have no doubt some parties have a vested interest in weaker anti-cheats, but that would be missing the forest for the trees. This is normalizing a level of escalation of privileges, a degree of capabilities that the gaming industry must not be allowed to feel comfortable appropriating from the user going forward.

Valorant met outrage because it was always running when it had no right nor needed to, and with incredible technical incompetence. Doom forced a kernel driver without choice on a SP game, and the reasons are far less than noble while immensely degrading performance for some users. The issue here is that the gaming industry is far, far from having the standing to be trusted not to abuse this newfound privilege. Why are we supposed to trust them not to fuck up software that needs to be hardened ten times more when they ship games so broken at launch?

Sorry, that's a nope from me. This stuff reeks.

How long until they try to implement DRM through a driver if they thought they could get away with it? Walled gardens where the user is a guest on his own hardware for maximum exploitation is what the industry unashamedly pursues. That's why fighting this matters.
 
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EDIT: Nevermind about this post, saw a post in a community hub I often check with a link for a reddit post about next week there being an update for DOOM Eternal that will have a prompt about installing the Denuvo Anti Cheat or not (if not installed, the game would have multiplayer features disabled), but with the typos that the pictured email has, it's likely fake.
 
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Man. Why can’t we have more games with the kind of cohesive, diegetic and deep world/game design like the Souls games?

Hmmm. Mhmm. Hm!
 
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Man. Why can’t we have more games with the kind of cohesive, diegetic and deep world/game design like the Souls games?

Hmmm. Mhmm. Hm!
Many, many games do this. Hell, most of them do. Environmental storytelling isn't rocket science. They just don't all have a Vaati video dedicated to each. It's nothing new and it's a little weird to imply they don't :).
 
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Question(s) for the Tech-savvy people, from a not so smart person: me

Very simplifed, when I connect to Steam, my PC connects to my ISP and they establish a connection to Steam (?):
PC --> Vodafone --> Steam

If I use a VPN software, I still have to go through my ISP first, but there is an extra server between my ISP and my "final" connection (?)
(again very simplified)
PC --> Vodafone --> (VPN-Server) --> Steam

My ISP should only be able to track my connection to said VPN server and doesn't know that I'm connecting to Steam, behind it. Is that correct?

I'm asking because of my Steam Download Problems. As said, the download speed is abysimal and even under one mb/s. Unless I use a VPN, than it suddenly goes up to 35mb/s (probably the maximum speed of my VPN provider).

Which is curious and makes me think that Vodafone is throtteling my connection. Why else would there be such a difference when downloading from the same Steam Server (Frankfurt Germany), at the same time? The only difference seems to be Vodafone knowing or not knowing that I'm downloading from Steam. Or am I making a fundamental mistake in thinking here?

I don't understand the logiv behind only throttling Steam downloads, but I also have no clue why using a VPN brings downloads up from 300kb/s to 35mb/s.
 

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Your understanding is correct.

However, another explanation of your observed behaviour is that the route from your ISP directly to the Steam server is congested, and you circumvent that route by going over a VPN hop.

Edit: I'm not saying that's necessarily what's going on -- they could also be throttling you, or it could be something else entirely that we can't think of right now ;)
 
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Durante, Don't know if you saw, but regarding your post about the new consoles' SSDs and the upcoming PCI-E 4.0 ones for PC; Would the Intel Optane's really fast random 4x queue depth read/write have an advantage in next-gen games? Or does it not really matter because "bandwidth is king" for games? Not to mention that on PC you have a shared RAM pool of System and VRAM?

I probably phrased that almost unintelligibly, but basically I'm asking if you had an Intel Optane drive, if that would make any big difference in a world were NVMe SSD speeds is the baseline for big budget games?
 

ISee

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Your understanding is correct.

However, another explanation of your observed behaviour is that the route from your ISP directly to the Steam server is congested, and you circumvent that route by going over a VPN hop.

Edit: I'm not saying that's necessarily what's going on -- they could also be throttling you, or it could be something else entirely that we can't think of right now ;)
Thx for the answer.

I'm living about 100km away from Frankfurt and the VPN server I've chosen is supposed to be located in Frankfurt as well, so the traffic could take similar routes with and without the VPN?
It also doesn't matter to which Steam Server I connect to without the VPN, I also get under 1mb/s from Hamburg, Düsseldorf or München. And at least two of those connections should not use Frankfurt as a "hub" (from a directions pov). But who knows with the internet, definetly not me.

I'm also not saying that I'm sure that they are throtteling me, but the firt tier of support claims that it's either me or Steam. And it is hard to get passed that. They even proposed that restarting my "Fritz.Box" is going to resolve the issue. Which is just the typical "FU" support answer imo.

Sorry for venting, but tech support is frustrating for everybody.
 

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Is steam the only site/software service you use for high bandwidth applications?

On Rock Galactic, my friend is the only holdout but I won't purchase until he does. A game of purchase chicken if you will. If I do get it, it'll be on the xbox store because that version has crossplay with Xbox consoles! My brother has a pc with my old gtx 560ti in it but games only on his xb1 s, so crossplay is a must.
 
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ISee

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Is steam the only site/software service you use for high bandwidth applications?
Private? Yes it is mostly Steam and it is also the only service that I'm having problems with. I use it a lot tbh.
Other "services" work. I can for example download just fine from Uplay.
 

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Durante, Don't know if you saw, but regarding your post about the new consoles' SSDs and the upcoming PCI-E 4.0 ones for PC; Would the Intel Optane's really fast random 4x queue depth read/write have an advantage in next-gen games? Or does it not really matter because "bandwidth is king" for games? Not to mention that on PC you have a shared RAM pool of System and VRAM?

I probably phrased that almost unintelligibly, but basically I'm asking if you had an Intel Optane drive, if that would make any big difference in a world were NVMe SSD speeds is the baseline for big budget games?
I think the difference wouldn't be significant for most game-type loads, even next gen games.
The biggest advantages of Optane are in write IOPS and not read (IIRC), and game IO is almost 100% reading.
 

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Private? Yes it is mostly Steam and it is also the only service that I'm having problems with.
I can, for example, download a game through Uplay without problems. Artificial speedtests are also fine.
Yeah thats messed up. Issue started today?
 

ISee

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Yeah thats messed up. Issue started today?
About two weeks ago. My "original ISP" was bought by Vodafone and they finalized the transition about a month ago.
Could be a coinsidence... but in six years I never had one single problem with my original ISP. It was always fast and always stable & reliable.
 

Trisolarian

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About two weeks ago. My "original ISP" was bought by Vodafone and they finalized the transition about a month ago.
Could be a coinsidence... but in six years I never had one single problem with my original ISP. It was always fast and always stable & reliable.
Aren't corporate mergers grand? Nothing brightens my day like a telecom merger! :) :) :)

(damn you t mobile)
 
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