Community MetaSteam | June 2020 - Month Of The Seal, With Many A Deal, Throw Money With Zeal, The Wallet Will Kneel

[Swenhir]

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We're obviously not going to agree on the moral aspect of the matter, so I won't argue in circles with you and belabor the point.

However from a practical standpoint, I don't feel like you realize how damaging to BLM itself such a move would be. This would paint and completely reframe them as being authoritarian, as being about forcing things on people. It would make people question whether they are in this because it's right, or because they are after power. This would contribute to discrediting an entire movement doing good work for the sake of sticking it to a few kids who will not give a damn and, at best, leave that specific game. Not to mention people's knee-jerk reaction to being forced to do something and have their free time invaded by something they had no say in.

That's a bad call on top of being morally indefensible in my opinion.

 

[crimsonheadGCN]

 

[fantomena]

Could you guys pls discuss that topic in Postmeta?

 

[low-G]

Could you guys pls discuss that topic in Postmeta?

Based on his last comments I won’t be discussing anything with him again.

 

[crimsonheadGCN]

 

[Swenhir]

Based on his last comments I won’t be discussing anything with him again.

That's awfully unfriendly and uncalled for, but you do what you want.

Could you guys pls discuss that topic in Postmeta?

Sorry, it felt directly related to games at first, but I can see how the whole thing got pretty unrelated.

 

[lashman]

looks like versus evil are back

(either this, or they'll just change the date to 2021 tomorrow)

 

[NarohDethan]

JesusChrist

 

[fantomena]

JesusChrist

I think thehardtimes is a satire site like The Onion, but the official wording from Sony has still been confusing.

From what I understand, the game is basically Spider-Man: Lost Legacy.

 

[Kyougar]

I think thehardtimes is a satire site like The Onion, but the official wording from Sony has still been confusing.

From what I understand, the game is basically Spider-Man: Lost Legacy.

Why not just call it a franchise spinoff?

 

[fantomena]

Why not just call it a franchise spinoff?

Because Sony.

¯\(ツ)/¯

 

[Cordelia]

Huh what's wrong with Spiderman Miles?

Is it Spiderman 2/spin off/DLC/expansion?

 

[kafiend]

A Spiderman spin off
giggles childishly

 

[NarohDethan]

Huh what's wrong with Spiderman Miles?

Is it Spiderman 2/spin off/DLC/expansion?

Its like Uncharted Lost Legacy

 

[Cordelia]

Uncharted Lost Legacy

googling

Standalone expansion, so spin off?

 

[Kyougar]

googling

Standalone expansion, so spin off?

Nonono, it is the "next adventure in the Marvel's Spider-Man universe.", "an expansion and an enhancement to the previous game"

translation: We don't think that game with a black protagonist could stand on its own, so we shoehorn anything to the white Spider-Man game that customers know.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Sony is trying really hard to obscure the fact that their big PS5 launch game is "Batman Arkham Origins"

 

[gabbo]

JesusChrist

So.. is it spiderman2 or not? Miles is Spiderman in the Ultimate universe, why is it so hard to be clear.

God, it feels like Sony falling all over themselves trying not not to say the black spiderman game isn't a full Spiderman game while also trying to remain the company who put out that BLM message last week.

 

[Cordelia]

Nonono, it is the "next adventure in the Marvel's Spider-Man universe.", "an expansion and an enhancement to the previous game"

translation: We don't think that game with a black protagonist could stand on its own, so we shoehorn anything to the white Spider-Man game that customers know.

Ah yes marketing speak like "designed exclusively for PS5 [UWSL]also coming to PC day one[/UWSL]"

 

[Kyougar]

So.. is it spiderman2 or not? Miles is Spiderman in the Ultimate universe, why is it so hard to be clear.

because he is black and can't be numbered.

 

[gabbo]

because he is black and can't be numbered.

So my edit is correct. .. Why not just call it Ultimate Spiderman then and save yourself the PR quagmire they are walking into?

 

[CommodoreKong]

Swenhir i guess this answers your question

Give me a full scale Battle of Endor level EA and I'll buy your game.
I love fleet battles so much, I rewatched RotJ so much as a kid because of the space battle.

 

[Kyougar]

So my edit is correct. .. Why not just call it Ultimate Spiderman then and save yourself the PR quagmire they are walking into?

Just thought about something, How kong was Spider-Man? maybe the Miles Morales Game is significantly shorter and that's why they are very shy about calling it a spin-off or a numbered game and throw words like extension and expansion out.

Which, again is kind of icky and telling that they don't give a POC Spider-Man game a full AAA treatment.

 

[lashman]

Give me a full scale Battle of Endor level EA and I'll buy your game.

maybe they'll put that in the campaign

 

[Le Pertti]

Yeah it surprises me that the miles morales spiderman game isnt a full on sequel, considering that the comic book is very well regarded and sony just did that awesome animated movie, there no data that would show that a game based on the character wouldnt sell!

 

[Trisolarian]

Just thought about something, How kong was Spider-Man? maybe the Miles Morales Game is significantly shorter and that's why they are very shy about calling it a spin-off or a numbered game and throw words like extension and expansion out.

Which, again is kind of icky and telling that they don't give a POC Spider-Man a full AAA treatment.

Its a little weird for sure. Hopefully it isn't shorter bc I want more Spider-Man damn it.

Like if it wasn't for the MCU, Miles would be THE Spider-Man, bc of Into the Spiderverse and the Bendis books. But the MCU happened and Spider-Man is still Peter Parker. I am not sure of Marvel's level of involvement either, so who knows who made this decision?

Who knows at the end of the day? Uncharted LL got the same treatment, so a Walking Dead and Fear the Walking Dead situation?

 

[lashman]

Its a little weird for sure. Hopefully it isn't shorter bc I want more Spider-Man damn it.

Like if it wasn't for the MCU, Miles would be THE Spider-Man, bc of Into the Spiderverse and the Bendis books. But the MCU happened and Spider-Man is still Peter Parker. I am not sure of Marvel's level of involvement either, so who knows who made this decision?

Who knows at the end of the day? Uncharted LL got the same treatment, so a Walking Dead and Fear the Walking Dead situation?

they already said it's gonna be like LL

 

[Trisolarian]

they already said it's gonna be like LL

Ah ok.....

I have LL but I've only played a bit. Its the same length as UC4?

 

[AHA-Lambda]

maybe they'll put that in the campaign

The 3 hour tutorial campaign

 

[lashman]

Ah ok.....

I have LL but I've only played a bit. Its the same length as UC4?

i believe it's much shorter

but someone will have to confirm that as i haven't played it myself

The 3 hour tutorial campaign

yes, correct

 

[AHA-Lambda]

Ah ok.....

I have LL but I've only played a bit. Its the same length as UC4?

Definitely less but can't remember exactly

Think of LL as a really big DLC, or an old school Expansion Pack

 

[Kyougar]

Its a little weird for sure. Hopefully it isn't shorter bc I want more Spider-Man damn it.

Like if it wasn't for the MCU, Miles would be THE Spider-Man, bc of Into the Spiderverse and the Bendis books. But the MCU happened and Spider-Man is still Peter Parker. I am not sure of Marvel's level of involvement either, so who knows who made this decision?

Who knows at the end of the day? Uncharted LL got the same treatment, so a Walking Dead and Fear the Walking Dead situation?

Uncharted: The Lost Legacy will give you approximately seven or eight hours of play time
While the main Uncharted games are 9 to 16 hours.

Spider-Man is 17 to 24 hours according to howlongtobeat.

When they are comparing it to LL, do they mean the 7 to 8 hour length or the difference to the main Uncharted games? It is the difference between Miles Spider-man being 7 hours long or 14 to 20 hours.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

Uncharted: The Lost Legacy will give you approximately seven or eight hours of play time
While the main Uncharted games are 9 to 16 hours.

Spider-Man is 17 to 24 hours according to howlongtobeat.

When they are comparing it to LL, do they mean the 7 to 8 hour length or the difference to the main Uncharted games? It is the difference between Miles Spider-man being 7 hours long or 14 to 20 hours.

Gut feeling, but I'd imagine length wise we're talking a proportional cut down

 

[Trisolarian]

Uncharted: The Lost Legacy will give you approximately seven or eight hours of play time
While the main Uncharted games are 9 to 16 hours.

Spider-Man is 17 to 24 hours according to howlongtobeat.

When they are comparing it to LL, do they mean the 7 to 8 hour length or the difference to the main Uncharted games? It is the difference between Miles Spider-man being 7 hours long or 14 to 20 hours.

Ok... this makes sense.

Welp, hopefully the ask in isn't $60 if the gameplay hours don't match up.

If its another UC LL, as in Spider-Man with less gameplay hours, its a missed opportunity have a big ticket Superhero game with a black protagonist. That would be launch title.

 

[Stevey]

Played one mission Halo 3 insider. Looks and plays nice, finally Halo 3 on PC and the wait is over.

Please tell me it doesnt suffer from the annoying micro stutter that Reach does.
CE and 2 run perfectly, but there's something wrong with Reach

 

[NarohDethan]

[UWSL][/UWSL]

Uncharted: The Lost Legacy will give you approximately seven or eight hours of play time
While the main Uncharted games are 9 to 16 hours.

Spider-Man is 17 to 24 hours according to howlongtobeat.

When they are comparing it to LL, do they mean the 7 to 8 hour length or the difference to the main Uncharted games? It is the difference between Miles Spider-man being 7 hours long or 14 to 20 hours.

Hot take: PS4 Spiderman should have been a 10h game

 

[Kyougar]

Hot take: PS4 Spiderman should have been a 10h game

Didn't play or watch it. Don't like Ubisoft radio-tower games. (and don't have a PS4 :> )

 

[BO7AMMOOD]

I get the feeling that they wanted some kind of Spider-Man game for the PS5 launch, but couldn't do a full game in time for that so they went with the standalone/expansion route to introduce Miles as Spider-Man and then go on to have him and Peter Parker share the spotlight in the upcoming Spider-Man 2. Who knows, Spider-Man 2 could still be all about Miles too if they go the Ultimate direction. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Spider-Gwen join the fray in Spider-Man 2 as well!

 

[NarohDethan]

Didn't play or watch it. Don't like Ubisoft radio-tower games. (and don't have a PS4 :> )

You’re not missing anything honestly. The swinging is fun but everything else is average.

 

[ISee]

Reorganised and added an even bigger Coal Powerplant to the grid. 3 gigawatts of pure power (from 1.2gw).
Not visible from high above, put it is an efficient and clean build now. Of course running at max efficiency.
Next I need to bring a couple resources from the coal plants area towards my main base and pick up a couple of nodes along the way. I also planned out a Forgery that will handle all my smelting and alloy mixing in the future. I hope it works out as I think it should.

 

[Hektor]

Didn't play or watch it. Don't like Ubisoft radio-tower games. (and don't have a PS4 :> )

You’re not missing anything honestly. The swinging is fun but everything else is average.

I hate Ubisoft tower garbage more than either of you i am sure, but i still really enjoyed the Spiderman game, turns out if you have actually fun movement mechanics, even those can be enjoyable

 

[AHA-Lambda]

I hate Ubisoft tower garbage more than either of you i am sure, but i still really enjoyed the Spiderman game, turns out if you have actually fun movement mechanics, even those can be enjoyable

Pretty much.

Spiderman PS4 does indeed fal into many of the traps/tropes of modern open world games, but it is nevertheless pretty darn good.

On other hand, with it's incoming PC releases, can anyone tell me that Horizon Zero Dawn isn't just another cookie cutter open world game?

 

[crimsonheadGCN]

 

[ISee]

I hate Ubisoft tower garbage more than either of you i am sure, but i still really enjoyed the Spiderman game, turns out if you have actually fun movement mechanics, even those can be enjoyable

The game was fun, but I didn't enjoy the combat for strange reasons. There are many synergies and ways to get rid of enemies, but it still felt a bit mechanical and like repeating the same button presses over and over again. Hard to describe, just wasn't fun.
Story and traversal was alright and what brought me through the game.

 

[NarohDethan]

I hate Ubisoft tower garbage more than either of you i am sure, but i still really enjoyed the Spiderman game, turns out if you have actually fun movement mechanics, even those can be enjoyable

I do like Ubisoft towers tho

 

[Alextended]

Hope Insomniac isn't going to be a Spiderman factory, Sony better get PSVR2 out sooner rather than later so they can expand on their efforts with the medium.

 

[Firewithin]

is this going to effect Rocksteady while they try and do this? just show us teh game!!!

 

[yuraya]

4 billion is a lot tbh. It will take a while to make that money back for whoever might buy them.

They will probably just do a firesale of the ip rights.

Would love to see someone like CDPR or Bethesda get rights to Game of Thrones ip

 

[fantomena]

Lol, my factory in both Satisfactory and Factorio are both so shit organized compared to pics and videos I see.

 

[Avern]

On other hand, with it's incoming PC releases, can anyone tell me that Horizon Zero Dawn isn't just another cookie cutter open world game?

Well... you've got vantage points to climb up, bandit camps to raid, craft-able items that are mostly just icons in a menu, collectibles to check off a map, and a skill tree with 3 upgrade paths. So yeah, it's extremely cookie cutter.

You might still be able to enjoy it though, because most of that garbage can be ignored in favor of the one good part of the game: fighting the robots. They're very dangerous on higher difficulties, and the game gives you a ton of tools to use against them. They've got breakable parts you can tear off and weak points that yield bonuses when destroyed. You get a decent variety of arrow types to use against them, along with traps, and the ability to hack one to fight for you if you can sneak up on it.

The combat is the one part of Horizon that feels like it was made by designers and not by a committee. If that's enough for you, you can probably still have a good time with the game. Otherwise, it's not worth your time.