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Swenhir

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somebody who doesn't already buy into the local wisdom of "always trust the Queen", but is trying to evaluate the foundations of that trust.
For the record, you aren't the only one who doesn't believe in these leaks, precisely on that basis among others. I don't openly voice that opinion because, well, what's the cost to me of them being out there? People choose to hope at their own discretion and I have no place telling them what to think or not.

All the same, nobody has any place telling you you are wrong for questioning the sourceless and unproven nature of the leaks. That would be abusive and cultish behavior.

Also, I'm torn between pacing myself with CP77 or just devouring it as much as I can. Its subject matter is starting to get to me and I kind of need more optimism in my life. It's an incredibly compelling game but also one that is starting to make me feel like crap. Though one heartening thing was that you can pet the cat. Good game.
 
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My notion of treating insider is always "believe if you want to". I don't think any of them should provide any proofs to tell people "here is the proof, now believe me!". Th[UWSL]e best proof is always official confirmation. If you want to see if an insider has any credibility, just be patient and wait for the announcement. However, it is also important to understand that plans can change. Leaks may not be confirmed until years later. So avoid raising pitchforks against an insider if the leak is not realized. [/UWSL]
 
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My notion of treating insider is always "believe if you want to". I don't think any of them should provide any proofs to tell people "here is the proof, now believe me!". Th[UWSL]e best proof is always official confirmation. If you want to see how an insider has any credibility, just be patient and wait for the announcement. However, it is also important to understand that plans can change. Leaks may not be confirmed until years later. So avoid raising pitchforks against an insider if the leak is not realized. [/UWSL]
He is not raising any pitchforks. He made sure of communicating that.
 
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My notion of treating insider is always "believe if you want to". I don't think any of them should provide any proofs to tell people "here is the proof, now believe me!". Th[UWSL]e best proof is always official confirmation. If you want to see how an insider has any credibility, just be patient and wait for the announcement. However, it is also important to understand that plans can change. Leaks may not be confirmed until years later. So avoid raising pitchforks against an insider if the leak is not realized. [/UWSL]
exactly ... plus - it's not like Queen is doing this for fame or whatever ... if she were - she'd be posting on a much bigger forum, or reddit :p lol
 

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Whatever happened to Voidu? I remember people posting crazy deals they had on there two or so years ago. Now I go a mail from them and thought I check in on it after quite some time. Mail was like "Our Winter Sale is finally here" and when I looked at it was a 20% on everything like it is a German home improvement store. No other discounts but 4 things or so either.

Anyway, might pick up Call of the Sea in the Steam winter seal. Part of me is bummed out that it is only on Xbox for now. Might have gone with the PS5 version if there were one just for easy playing on my OLED.
 

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I've sent you a pm with some things
I acknowledge receipt of info I need to sift through. (edit: info since retracted; update on other post) As said in private I'll need time to form an opinion about it.

I add that we hit another limit of the process: my knowledge of the game industry, or lack thereof. I started looking into this because of a specific rumour I care about: BB PC, but I'm not well-armed regarding non-Souls franchises. I have a solid general methodology, I hope, but I need to feed it with data outside of my fields of knowledge and that takes time.

And I need to earn my bread, too.
It's up to you to trust the info or not, but I would request that you do not talk about it outside the site.
Any info disclosed to me privately shall of course stay private, to the best of my ability to keep it so. That is basic civility.

Any general conclusion formed therefrom, I intend to share as I see fit (possibly with time delays if those are formed using time-critical information). For instance if I reach the conclusion "what Queen says is probably nonsense", or "what she says is probably accurate", I intend to share that fact about my state of mind. I presume that would be acceptable to you?

For the record, you aren't the only one who doesn't believe in these leaks, precisely on that basis among others. I don't openly voice that opinion because, well, what's the cost to me of them being out there? People choose to hope at their own discretion and I have no place telling them what to think or not.

All the same, nobody has any place telling you you are wrong for questioning the sourceless and unproven nature of the leaks. That would be abusive and cultish behavior.
For now the general reaction here has been quite reasonable. Abusive and cultish behaviour would have been an answer in itself. And saved me work ;)
 
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Swenhir

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Gas clouds hit the PTU in Star Citizen and hot damn. Those screenshots are too large for me to embed them responsibly but I can't wait to see how it feels and looks like to fly through them in person. They are volumetric, dynamically-lit and self-shadowed, massive and what we've already seen just boggled my mind.

Almost getting Homeworld vibes, which doesn't exactly disagree with me.

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Edit : best source of it in motion that I could find, also a fantastic tech talk. Fair warning, I adore volumetrics, so I'll be a little... perky in the days to come :p.
 
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Alexandros

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Any info disclosed to me privately shall of course stay private, to the best of my ability to keep it so. That is basic civility.

Any general conclusion formed therefrom, I intend to share as I see fit (possibly with time delays if those are formed using time-critical information). For instance if I reach the conclusion "what Queen says is probably nonsense", or "what she says is probably accurate", I intend to share that fact about my state of mind. I presume that would be acceptable to you?
If you mean sharing it here, absolutely. But if tomorrow I read an article on some site about it, it would be super not acceptable as it would draw way too much attention and possibly cause problems for the person graciously sharing some information with us.
 

Gamall Wednesday Ida

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exactly ... plus - it's not like Queen is doing this for fame or whatever ... if she were - she'd be posting on a much bigger forum, or reddit :p lol
Not necessarily.

There are strong psychological rewards to being a big fish in a small pond. The hedonistic factor is not proportional to the size of the venue.

Again, not saying this is the case here --- I am all out of pitchforks :p --- just addressing the general argument.
 

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Re: Game Pass on Steam. I imagined MS would eventually offer a pared down version of Game Pass on Steam that only included first party games, ala the Steam version of EA Access. I thought licensing for Steam versions would make the full version of Game Pass impossible. But if MS and Valve can pull it off, then that's great. Subscription services are definitely going to be a big thing in the next few years, although I worry we're currently in the early Netflix era where Game Pass is king and you don't really need anything else, but eventually there will be more fragmentation since everyone will want a piece of the subscription pie.
 
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Re: Game Pass on Steam. I imagined MS would eventually offer a pared down version of Game Pass on Steam that only included first party games, ala the Steam version of EA Access. I thought licensing for Steam versions would make the full version of Game Pass impossible. But if MS and Valve can pull it off, then that's great. Subscription services are definitely going to be a big thing in the next few years, although I worry we're currently in the early Netflix era where Game Pass is king and you don't really need anything else, but eventually there will be more fragmentation since everyone will want a piece of the subscription pie.
yeah, i think it's just gonna be MS games (they already have quite a few of them up on steam) ... here's hoping it's gonna be cheaper than the regular GP :p otherwise - lol
 

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yeah, i think it's just gonna be MS games (they already have quite a few of them up on steam) ... here's hoping it's gonna be cheaper than the regular GP :p otherwise - lol
If anything it will be more expensive.
And most likely will just pass the sub licence data from Steam to Xbox app, where you will have to download UWP apps on your own.
 

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Emulation is so prevalent on PC it would make so much sense for Nintendo to sell good quality emulators/roms on PC to actually make some money from people who would be willing to buy the games.
Here's the thing, much as I am down on LEGALLY buying Nintendo stuff on PC/Steam; they're Nintendo. Excited though I may be for their stuff, I remain weary of their BS antics and tactics especially during this year.
 

Gamall Wednesday Ida

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If you mean sharing it here, absolutely. But if tomorrow I read an article on some site about it, it would be super not acceptable as it would draw way too much attention and possibly cause problems for the person graciously sharing some information with us.
I am not active on other fora or indeed involved in any social media (unless you count the odd burst of activity on wikipedia, on unrelated topics).

Even if I took leave of my senses and created a Twitter account right now, I do not see why my opinion, among so many others, would attract any particular attention.

Furthermore, my goal here is purely selfish. There is a rumour that tickles my fancy, and I wish to assess it; I have no particular drive to shout the conclusion to high heavens, even had I a platform on which to do so.

However, I cannot commit in all generality to never sharing my general conclusions outside of this forum, if a discussion comes up where it is pertinent.
Note that this very thread is publicly accessible. That's how I found this place. To share something on this forum does mean to share it outside. The degree of visibility is unpredictable.
 

Gamall Wednesday Ida

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I acknowledge receipt of info I need to sift through. As said in private I'll need time to form an opinion about it.
Update: Queen did communicate me some info; later she retracted that info, citing second thoughts and concerns for the risk of identification.

(The content of this update was agreed upon by both parties).
 

Gamall Wednesday Ida

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TIL that the plural of forum is fora 😮
I love me some general culture. Did you know Christ died on a giant robot ? What was Grendizer doing ? Important questions.
A valid plural is fora. It's a latin word, the latin plural applies, but since English appropriated the word, the English plural (forums) is valid as well. I used the former because I am a pompous and pedant ponce, obviously. (edit: should have placed "pontificating" in there as well. Love that word. Love the activity.)

(But "Octopi" is NOT a valid plural for Octopus. 'cause Greek, not Latin. How's that for trivia?)

Sounds like we're all going to be playing Bloodborne on PC before any of this rumor vetting business gets figured out.
Seems likely.
 
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Mor

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7 hours in and so far it's a very interesting experience, I have some complains about some paths but overall I have been enjoying the game a lot, still under the lockdown, so you can bet I have been exploring the streets quite a bit haha.

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I don't wish to interrupt your rumor discussion, but where do you find good grid images for the games in the Steam library that didn't update their assets?
Either Steamgriddb.com or I search "[insert game name here] game cover" on Google images.
 
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Whatever Pokemon game Nintendo would release on PC will be some shitty irrelevant arena game that would redirect people into their Mobile/Switch efforts. So I'm not getting excited for it. It would be great if they just ported Blue/Red or Yellow to Steam with achievements/cards and sold em for like a 20$. I would go for that.
 
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Mor

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I just want someone to leak Alan Wake 2. :(
No need for a leak, the project that makes more sense to happen from Remedy right now is AW2 with AW remaster.

Let me explain.
1 - Remedy got the rights of thew first game back so no more need for MS permission.
2 - Remedy x Epic deal is for 2 skus, a big one and a small one (AW2 with remaster?)
3 - Control's last expansion focus entirely on the Darkness in this multi-dimensional universe, so let's say that they are introducing again the dark entities in order to people remembers them.
4 - It makes sense for Epic to push this one as it would bring people in due to known IP and long waited project.
 

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Something I'm not too sure about is HDMI 2.1 on the new consoles. I was planning on buying a AV receiver and stuff but from some of the stuff that I have read is that if you want to take advantage of some of the cool stuff that they offer like high fps and FreeSync then you will want to connect the consoles directly to your video output (TV or monitor).



Right now what I'm trying to buy a record player (I have a collection of video game vinyl that I have never used before and would like to test them out) I was planning on getting the Audio-Technica - ATLP120XBT Bluetooth Stereo Turntable which Best Buy has for $300USD. I was also looking at a Sony AV receiver but I also want it to work with the record player and it looks like there is only 1 and all of the other ones need a pre-amp so I need to buy one of those.

also I'm not sure what speakers to use. My room is not that large. I would like to get a nice audio set up though but I'm not sure where to go to also more questions. I could go to Best Buy and ask and stuff but the closet one is in the next town over and even then they may not be able to help me.



why is technology just so complicated?

i wonder if I can somehow still use my Logitech speakers some how in all of this.



So one of the main reasons why I want to upgrade my audio set up is when I was trying to play a DVD on the PS5 I was not able to get audio out and I had to mess with the settings a lot in order to get it to work. The Speakers have DTS:X support and I guess that maybe the PS5 doesn't do that? I will try later with the XSX since I think that actually has an app for DTS:X.



any Turn Table preamp recommendations?
 
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