News Cyberpunk 2077 - releasing December 10 , 2020

[JackPineSavage]

Dang I fucked up and failed the sidequest with your neighbor. Now I feel like shit. Almost even teared up a little

Well at least I know what to do when I do a 2nd playthrough. At least I think I know. Part of me wants to reload an older save to do it right but I progressed and did some cool shit since so I'm not gonna.

It's always better to live with your decisions than save scum

 

[didamangi]

How CPU heavy is the game? I've got a ryzen 5 1600@3.7Ghz and an RTX 2060, I want to target 60 fps at 1920x1080, do you think it's doable?

Should be doable with DLSS.

I have a 8700k, cpu usage is around 50-80 so far depending on the scene. Although I know 1st gen ryzen is a bit slower, but at least it's a similar 6/12 cpu.

Cpu usage via guru3d:

 

[Spookyfriend]

Sigh the new patch is now stopping me from playing the game.
I launch the game and it will just crash at startup. Rip. I going to try validate the steam file to see if it work.

Edit. Validate the file, and Steam download 7.2GB and now it work.

 

[sk2k]

The patching process via Galaxy Client is horrible. Since minutes it is stuck at 56%. The HDD is working like mad.

 

[Spookyfriend]

Anyone completed the Dream on quest?
Did you tell Mr Jefferson the truth / Or the lie that his wife told you to tell him.
I wonder if there is any difference in the ending , next quest if there is any lol

 

[Snakethesniper]

Should be doable with DLSS.

I have a 8700k, cpu usage is around 50-80 so far depending on the scene. Although I know 1st gen ryzen is a bit slower, but at least it's a similar 6/12 cpu.

Cpu usage via guru3d:

Thanks, I was thinking about High preset, I don't think I can keep ultra. Is your performance with ultra settings?

Also I'm a bit ignorant, what does DLSS do?

 

[ISee]

Can confirm the CPU usage during my brief ~3h running around and looking at performance/settings: I saw some beefy CPU loads. 60%+ on a 3900x happened surprisingly often.
But most of the time it is way below that. I think a 6c/12t CPU is more than enough though.

Anyway, before I delete the game a small correction:

1440p DLSS Quality looks more blurry than 1440p native. Only something I've noticed while starring at screenshots though. I completely missed the difference while in the game and changing settings on the fly.

1440p DLSS Quality, Ultra, Ultra RT
1440p native, Ultra, Ultra RT


But for a +80% perfromance increase (???)
I think it's crazy to not activate it.

Also, DLSS is sometimes adding extra details to the scene (for example: take a look at the police car, to the left of the NCPD building, under the Data INC sign)

 

[Joe Spangle]

Im really enjoying the game, the city is great and the story so far has been engaging. Not a big fan of the male voice acting, wish id gone with the female. There is some jankyness to all the npc's, they disappear and reappear at random and look a bit plastic. The UI could be better. Same for the driving but its not too bad.

I think something is amiss with my settings though as i get some drops in framerate - into the 40's. Seems like i should be getting a constant 60fps based on what you guys are saying and other benchmarks. Ive taken to turning off RTX which helps but i dont think i should have to. I have a 8700k and a 3090. Ive tried at 4k, 1440p - Ultra/high - RTX on / off. Still seem to get issues in certain areas.

 

[Li Kao]

I think something is amiss with my settings though as i get some drops in framerate - into the 40's. Seems like i should be getting a constant 60fps based on what you guys are saying and other benchmarks. Ive taken to turning off RTX which helps but i dont think i should have to. I have a 8700k and a 3090. Ive tried at 4k, 1440p - Ultra/high - RTX on / off. Still seem to get issues in certain areas.

There is a super light tech article on RPS, about what settings are perf killers. Might help you ! Or not, it's really barebone.

Here

Cyberpunk 2077: Best PC settings for performance

Is your PC struggling to run Cyberpunk 2077 at a stable frame rate? We tell you what settings to tweak to improve your PC's performance.

www.rockpapershotgun.com

 

[Joe Spangle]

There is a super light tech article on RPS, about what settings are perf killers. Might help you ! Or not, it's really barebone.

Here

Cyberpunk 2077: Best PC settings for performance

Is your PC struggling to run Cyberpunk 2077 at a stable frame rate? We tell you what settings to tweak to improve your PC's performance.

www.rockpapershotgun.com

Thanks! Im fiddling around with settings now so hopefully that'll help. I found a reddit post where someone listed their settings so im trying that too. I would like to get RTX on and keep a steady 60fps. Thats my goal.

This game does look amazing at times.

 

[Panda Pedinte]

I had two game breaking bugs where I had to load previous save files. One of them happened 3 times, it was during the mission when you go to install the first augments, the objective kept stuck in Talk to Viktor and couldn't progress.

The other one was while recovering the robot for Dex. I finished the mission but Jackie didn't left the factory so i was unable to talk to him to advance the mission.

There were other minor bugs like npcs floating.

 

[Swenhir]

Anyone playing on the European servers of GFN got the 1.04 update yet?

 

[texhnolyze]

I've had no crash nor any major bug so far, maybe I'm just lucky. The most common bugs are unlootable junks and NPCs cowering in the air when I get into combat near them.

The gameplay loop besides main story is fun, you can be a cop helper or run some random gigs for the fixers. It's nowhere near GTA in term of gameplay (besides you can steal and ride around the city). It's more like a combination of Deus Ex and Borderlands. Lots of ways to deal an encounter, whether by stealth or gun blazing. And when everything's done, there's loot waiting for you. There a lot of buildings that you can enter, mostly related to missions and gigs, as well as random encounters. Some of the buildings and encounters are designed with some verticalities and various doors to enter and get out.

 

[LEANIJA]

It's always better to live with your decisions than save scum

I do like me some save scumming! Especially in games like this ;P


10 GB patch just now, btw.


edit: wait, its 17 GB now. huh

 

[Wok]

What I am going to write is quite trivial. I have read an article on PCGamer in which the writer explains that he got accustomed to the in-game city, and after many hours, he notices the patterns and the reused assets. I believe CP2077 is one of these games, like Morrowind, GTA III, Skyrim or GTA V, in which you are in awe for tens of hours, until your brain manages to match the patterns and the magic slightly fades away. So, enjoy your first time!

 

[Durante]

I've had basically 0 (one T-posing NPC) bugs in 9 hours so far.

Also, almost every location I get to looks like concept art. The visual quality is insane. Thinking about what it took to do that at this scale is crazy.

What I am going to write is quite trivial. I have read an article on PCGamer in which the writer explains that he got accustomed to the in-game city, and after many hours, he notices the patterns and the reused assets. I believe CP2077 is one of these games, like Morrowind, GTA III, Skyrim or GTA V, in which you are in awe for tens of hours, until your brain manages to match the patterns and the magic slightly fades away. So, enjoy your first time!

Well, I've only got 9 hours, not 10, but I'm increasingly more in awe of just how many unique and incredibly well made assets there are.
Of course, the setting also helps, I mean, you expect some patterns and repetition in a modern man-made environment (unlike say a fantasy game). But honestly the asset detail and variety are simply staggering.

 

[Swenhir]

It should also be added that the patterns are not exactly avoidable in general anyway. You just can't have everything be bespoke, no matter how many millions of dollars you throw at the game. A degree of procedural generation and kit-based construction is, I think, a given. How to conceal it, how to go about making it look believable is where the magic is and so far... Wow.

 

[Joe Spangle]

I've had basically 0 (one T-posing NPC) bugs in 9 hours so far.

Also, almost every location I get to looks like concept art. The visual quality is insane. Thinking about what it took to do that at this scale is crazy.


Well, I've only got 9 hours, not 10, but I'm increasingly more in awe of just how many unique and incredibly well made assets there are.
Of course, the setting also helps, I mean, you expect some patterns and repetition in a modern man-made environment (unlike say a fantasy game). But honestly the asset detail and variety are simply staggering.

Yeah it is an incredibly pretty game at times and the way the city is laid out is very impressive. The amount of stuff going on like all the lighting and general ambiance is great. Its been a long time since ive played a game all weekend but thats what ive done with this one. Really has sucked me in.

Ive had the T-pose bug with my guy when he is in the car, im driving along and then sometimes all of a sudden (i think when entering a new district) he is standing on the car in the T pose.

 

[Wok]

I completely agree with you all. When I wrote tens of hours, I was thinking of 50 hours, maybe. We will see how it goes.

For now, I am constantly flabbergasted. :stupefy: :mellow:

 

[didamangi]

Cyberpunk 2077: Optimize Your GeForce RTX Graphics Settings

Configure your RTX platform to wander Night City with these Cyberpunk 2077 graphics settings recommendations.

www.nvidia.com

1080p

1440p

4K

No massive detailed guide showcasing the difference like the usual nvidia guide. Guess we have to wait for Dictator video on DF for that one.

Another interesting find:

Cyberpunk 2077 Negative LOD Bias test - Imgsli

imgsli.com

 

[fokkusu]

 

[Durante]

It's so typical how the entire post is based on completely wrong information (and the update doesn't actually include that bit).

Edit: now it does, at least partially.

The funniest part is that GPUOpen is an AMD library.

 

[fearthedawn]

tried the hex edit and it's actually a big improvement for my 3700x

 

[BlueOdin]

Im really enjoying the game, the city is great and the story so far has been engaging. Not a big fan of the male voice acting, wish id gone with the female. There is some jankyness to all the npc's, they disappear and reappear at random and look a bit plastic. The UI could be better. Same for the driving but its not too bad.

Voice acting for Woman V is also not that great

 

[Swenhir]

That feeling when your GFN session exits on GoG Galaxy going with a synchronization error. Yikes. Please don't loose my progress .

 

[ISee]

tried the hex edit and it's actually a big improvement for my 3700x

Great now I'm curious and need to redownload the game.

 

[EdwardTivrusky]

LowSodiumCyberpunk has some good posts - https://www.reddit.com/r/LowSodiumCyberpunk



and someone posted a 4k gallery which has some great shots in it. Might have been taken down? I get 404 at the moment.

https://imgur.com/gallery/qjayend

 

[Swenhir]

LowSodiumCyberpunk has some good posts - https://www.reddit.com/r/LowSodiumCyberpunk



and someone posted a 4k gallery which has some great shots in it. Might have been taken down? I get 404 at the moment.

https://imgur.com/gallery/qjayend

Holy shit, that babylens effect. It's wonderful!

Edit : my save is safe. Phew.

 

[fearthedawn]

Great now I'm curious and need to redownload the game.

A couple of my (8)16 virtual cores were running at <50% load, every now and then the game had some bad stutters, scenes that were tanking the framerate HARD and even when everything seemed to be running well enough i was mostly cpu bound (even with rtx on) and my gpu would sometimes go into idle mode reporting low utilization as limiting reason, i knew something was very wrong to cause this but didn't even know if it was the game or some other problem with my system.

Haven't had a bad stutter like that since, lowering graphics settings actually increases framerate now (to a point, it isn't running 100fps+ and afaik shouldn't with my cpu), gpu hasn't gone to sleep, all cores are running 80%+ loads... almost a different game

 

[Panda Pedinte]

Played more of it, finished the prologue(?)

It was nice that the theory I was talking with my S.O. was right that

Spoiler

Johnny is a construct that is stuck in V now

. The localization to my language is pretty good, the missions names makes references to songs from my country and there swearing is funny.

 

[didamangi]

Yup, liking this sharpness now. Don't need nvidia sharpening anymore, so no drop in performance. I wonder if the negative lod thing works on every dlss game?

I can see the case for CA and film grain thematically. But at 1440p plus DLSS, it's just too blurry for my taste.

 

[ISee]

A couple of my (8)16 virtual cores were running at <50% load, every now and then the game had some bad stutters, scenes that were tanking the framerate HARD and even when everything seemed to be running well enough i was mostly cpu bound (even with rtx on) and my gpu would sometimes go into idle mode reporting low utilization as limiting reason, i knew something was very wrong to cause this but didn't even know if it was the game or some other problem with my system.

Haven't had a bad stutter like that since, lowering graphics settings actually increases framerate now (to a point, it isn't running 100fps+ and afaik shouldn't with my cpu), gpu hasn't gone to sleep, all cores are running 80%+ loads... almost a different game

I can add a "+1" here.
CPU load went up dramatically for me with this tweak too. While driving fast through the city I can observe up to 90% load on my 3900x now. That's crazy high and temps naturally went up too.

Also did a couple of small benchmark runs on foot and while not everywhere, some regions have improved performance now.

Example 1:
unmodified exe = 50 fps average
tweaked exe = 54 fps average (+8%)

Example 2:
unmodified exe = 52 fps
modified exe = 56 fps (+7.7%)

Other scenes didn't change, so it is probably the minimums that changed for me too.

I didn't observe stutters without the tweak, but as said 15 Thread usage was normal for me with this game. I assumed an 8c/16T CPU would see similar usage, but apparently there is a percentage based limit set in the used library? I wonder if it is an oversight in the (AMD?) library or done on purpose for reasons I don't understand. It's probably the latter, but it's a curious case. Never seen a game use 24T in a game before.


edit:
Forcing a CPU limit (540p internal resolution) is giving me interesting results. While CPU load goes up significantly, average fps do not change much.
At this point there is probably a different bottleneck at play. Maybe single thread performance, maybe AMD infinity fabric latency, maybe it's normal scene variation. A 3% difference ain't enough to claim a performance change here.

unmoded exe:

tweaked exe:

 

[texhnolyze]

Yup, liking this sharpness now. Don't need nvidia sharpening anymore, so no drop in performance. I wonder if the negative lod thing works on every dlss game?

I can see the case for CA and film grain thematically. But at 1440p plus DLSS, it's just too blurry for my taste.

What did you do? I just can't seem to remove the grainy filter, it's very prevalent in the city.

 

[didamangi]

What did you do? I just can't seem to remove the grainy filter, it's very prevalent in the city.

I just turn off chromatic aberration and film grain in the settings. And setting lod bias to -3 via nvidia profile inspector to sharpen dlss. If your card doesn't support dlss the negative lod thing doesn't work afaik.

 

[Li Kao]

Lttp, was the hex thing useful ? How do you do it ? Why has the user deleted his post ?
...
Yeah, very late on this one.

 

[Wok]

So I notice that I should set DLSS to "Quality" at 1080p. It was set to "Auto" before.

Yup, liking this sharpness now. Don't need nvidia sharpening anymore, so no drop in performance. I wonder if the negative lod thing works on every dlss game?

I can see the case for CA and film grain thematically. But at 1440p plus DLSS, it's just too blurry for my taste.

That is how you people get sharper screenshots than I do! Thanks!

 

[ISee]

Lttp, was the hex thing useful ? How do you do it ? Why has the user deleted his post ?
...
Yeah, very late on this one.

No idea why it was deleted, but it's still up on r/AMD

Open the EXE with HXD (Hex Editor).
Look for
75 30 33 C9 B8 01 00 00 00 0F A2 8B C8 C1 F9 08
change to
74 30 33 C9 B8 01 00 00 00 0F A2 8B C8 C1 F9 08
and

Should begin at 2A816B3, will change if they patch the game so..

edit:
While reading the reddit thread. I had no idea even people with 5600x and 5800x were that heavily CPU bottle necked.

Li Kao Keep an eye on your CPU Temps, they will increase.

 

[texhnolyze]

15 hours in, I'm still in Act 1 and not even close to finishing it. This is the Hinterlands in DA Inquisition all over again, isn't it? I don't think White Orchard in W3 even this long, as you can actually run out of quests in there.

 

[Durante]

I finished act 1 at ~10 hours in, but I very purposefully refrained from doing everything (or even many things) that pops up on the map. I feel like that eventually ground my W3 playthrough to a halt despite enjoying the game a lot.

 

[Maniac]

Voice acting for Woman V is also not that great

Biiiitch you gotta be trippiiiiiin

I finished act 1 at ~10 hours in, but I very purposefully refrained from doing everything or even many things) that pops up on the map. I feel like that eventually ground my W3 playthrough to a halt despite enjoying the game a lot.

I've been doing nothing but side content like a doofus only just now coming to the realisation that it's exactly what made me never quite finish TW3. And I'm only 5 or 6 hours from completing the main campaign in it. I'm not the brightest. :|

 

[Wok]

Based on what I read about CP2077, the main quest is relatively short compared to The Witcher 3's, so doing side quests is not a bad idea.

I don't know if some side quests become unavailable as your progress in the main quest. I think it happened to a few quests in TW3.

 

[Prodigy]

Certain side quests also influence the main quest and endings, so yeah it is good to do them.

 

[Snakethesniper]

Bought the game, using the suggested Nvidia settings apart from RTX that I've disabled and Texture quality on high.
Game crashed me when I was getting out of a car
edit: oh yeah, weird thing, don't know if it was for the mirror or what, but when looking at the starting mirror on the streetkid playthrough the fps dropped, but when the conversation was over it returned normal even when looking at it

 

[didamangi]

 

[Mor]

HOLY FUCK WITH THIS GAME, ok, now that I got used to the stealth systems of this game I must say I'm approaching it in the same way as Dishonored, how? no detection, no kills, stealth, diplomacy if possible over all the other options.

While I think sometimes the options are... limited.... I have found the balance and I'm satisfied with how the things are going.

 

[Swenhir]

HOLY FUCK WITH THIS GAME, ok, now that I got used to the stealth systems of this game I must say I'm approaching it in the same way as Dishonored, how? no detection, no kills, stealth, diplomacy if possible over all the other options.

While I think sometimes the options are... limited.... I have found the balance and I'm satisfied with how the things are going.

Yep! And contrary to these games, even if you fail stealth, you can go the route of fisticuffs to non-lethal people back into horizontal silence. I love that I'm playing more and more like a sort of stealthy, terrifying monk .

 

[Wok]

Meanwhile, I am playing as a strong and very athletic dude who does not hide much. I would be that dude in Disco Elysium:

 

[Joe Spangle]

HOLY FUCK WITH THIS GAME, ok, now that I got used to the stealth systems of this game I must say I'm approaching it in the same way as Dishonored, how? no detection, no kills, stealth, diplomacy if possible over all the other options.

While I think sometimes the options are... limited.... I have found the balance and I'm satisfied with how the things are going.

Yep. I am a sneaky V.

 

[Cordelia]

 

[texhnolyze]

Cool, I'll try that in an hour.

Here's a simplified guide on how to do that, btw: https://pastebin.pl/view/raw/d855412c