Epic customers already becoming second class citizens. Nobody saw this coming.
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There's a quiet little voice somewhere inside me that always laughs out loud when EGS users are having issues. 
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Nah, don't be like that.There's a quiet little voice somewhere inside me that always laughs out loud when EGS users are having issues.
People deserve to get what they paid for, in working order, and good support, no matter the platform or store they use.
Let's not confuse shitty companies (both the store owner, and the developer and publisher of the game), with people like you and me who spent their hard-earned money on something, and now have to deal with this crap.
I'm aware of that. That's why it's only a quiet little voice inside me.Nah, don't be like that.
People deserve to get what they paid for, in working order, and good support, no matter the platform or store they use.
Let's not confuse shitty companies (both the store owner, and the developer and publisher of the game), with people like you and me who spent their hard-earned money on something, and now have to deal with this crap.
I do wish people would think twice before supporting shitty companies of course . But it's not my place to judge them.
It'll be a learning experience for them at any rate. Though I do feel sorry for them.
But it's no surprise that the kinds of developers and publishers who would do EGS exclusivity will fuck over the people who followed them there in the first place, if only by treating them as an afterthought.
But it's no surprise that the kinds of developers and publishers who would do EGS exclusivity will fuck over the people who followed them there in the first place, if only by treating them as an afterthought.
Done and done.
That is a facet of this whole debacle that I hadn't considered but this is entirely right.
Predator: Hunting Grounds is out today on EGS and PS4 and no talk anywhere online where I can see, seems like a dead game on both platforms, or at least it will be dead in a week or 2.
Everything points out Sony was just looking for a quick paycheck for Predator and Readyset Heroes (yes, that game came out a while ago on EGS and PS4 and not a single mention of it anywhere) as they released it on Epic while actually wanting the PC playerbase with Horizon on Steam.
Everything points out Sony was just looking for a quick paycheck for Predator and Readyset Heroes (yes, that game came out a while ago on EGS and PS4 and not a single mention of it anywhere) as they released it on Epic while actually wanting the PC playerbase with Horizon on Steam.
Not surprising. People on reddit and era were trashing the beta pretty hard. Didnt look like Sony had any faith in it
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Thanks to dex3108 for posting this at Era.
I don't think talking about cross-posting to other places is really healthy.Epic's crusade against 30% takes a tumble | Opinion
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Thanks to dex3108 for posting this at Era.
Regarding the article, I think it's pretty bad as usual.
Emphasis mine. Completely misses the problem with exclusivity practices on PC, an open platform. It also calls the EGS a Steam challenger, which would imply that Epic was in the business of actually competing instead of removing products from the PC ecosystem.
This article seems to be more of the same, sticking to the cut argument which is disingenuous at best.
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My eyes rolled at that bit
BUT
this article has some gold in it
WELL WELL WELL HOW HATH THETH TABLETH TURNETH
You could insert Steam for Google here quite easily. Epic makes a lot of noise, no one really notices unless they are paid to.
Valve and google do nothing/say nothing, and Epic folds like a cheap lawn chair. I'd like to think we could use that same approach and save ourselves some grief over how crap EGS and Epic are
Close this topic guys, we are deeply misguided about Epic's policies.
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The PC Gaming Show will return on June 6, 2020 and will once again be sponsored by Epic Games:
www.pcgamingshow.com
PC Gaming Show
www.pcgamingshow.com
And there is the answer for why we havent heard anything on new games.The PC Gaming Show will return on June 6, 2020 and will once again be sponsored by Epic Games:
PC Gaming Show
I wonder if it'll just be the same host doing Zoom calls with devs and showing trailers and gameplay clips or maybe more like the original talk show with a desk and people in a chair (assuming there are any in-person bits at all). I think the original talk show format could be pulled off in a SpaceGhost C2C kinda way, where devs are shown on a monitor on the host's desk talking to him.
No doubt there will be plenty of exclusives, also some big ones. But just like last year, it will be easy to ignore all these games for 12 months because there are plenty of other great games to play on pc.
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You know, I look at all the games released on Steam this week, and the diversity of genres (XCOM: Chimera Squad, Trials of Mana, Dragon Marked For Death, Cloudpunk, Filament, The Shattering, A Summer's End - Hong Kong 1986, Iratus: Lord of the Dead, TROUBLESHOOTER: Abandoned Children, ITTA, 112 Operator, ...), and I almost want to say to Epic: "do your worse".
Really, for every exclusive they lock, there will be dozens, if not hundreds of great alternatives available on Steam.
There's so much stuff releasing on Steam recently, so many quality games, it's at times overwhelming.
So yeah, let them have stuff like Untitled Goose Game, or Borderlands 3 available a few months earlier.
Its a shame. The PCgamershow was pretty much the only part of E3 that i still watched and looked forward to and now its something that i know will just bring a bunch of eggclusives that i wont be playing so i no longer bother with it. I liked the two hosts, they were good and i liked how different it was (felt a bit more...i dont know.....sincere, less corporate marketing speel) to the other shows of E3.
hear! hear!You know, I look at all the games released on Steam this week, and the diversity of genres (XCOM: Chimera Squad, Trials of Mana, Dragon Marked For Death, Cloudpunk, Filament, The Shattering, A Summer's End - Hong Kong 1986, Iratus: Lord of the Dead, TROUBLESHOOTER: Abandoned Children, ITTA, 112 Operator, ...), and I almost want to say to Epic: "do your worse".
Really, for every exclusive they lock, there will be dozens, if not hundreds of great alternatives available on Steam.
There's so much stuff releasing on Steam recently, so many quality games, it's at times overwhelming.
So yeah, let them have stuff like Untitled Goose Game, or Borderlands 3 available a few months earlier.
100% agree.
The best thing is, there is always something coming out of the blue for me like Dusk, Disco:Elysium or Chimera Squad (just random examples).
I was disappointed when certain games went EGS exclusive, but meanwhile I'm rather relaxed: If you don't want my money, fine there is enough competition out there. EGS made me buy different games, instead of games on EGS.
Agreed with all the above. There are a few EGS exclusives that have annoyed me - most notable was Shenmue III - but on the most part all they've done is made deciding what my next purchase a bit easier. But the reality is for every game I'm waiting 6-12 months for because it's an exclusive, there are at the very least 2-3 games that piqued my interest just as much on other platforms that I'm willing to spend money on. And I generally consider myself a very picky player.
I said it earlier but ive done another sweep through my wishlist and got it down to 230. Thats 230 games that any eggs exclusive is competing against. There are so many games to choose from these days its amazing.
I had always looked forward to the PC gamer show. Like you said, it felt more honest and had some eurojank-flair to it (And I mean that in the best picture possible, like everything else is focus-tested to hell AAA console bullshit and here we have some honest, experimental not-taking-itself-too-seriously, show.)
And then came Epic and made it AAA Bullshit. Didn't watch last year and won't watch it this year.
hell not just that, like 70% of price i paid for my HTC Vive .. was originally planned buys/refunds of stuff that went :egg:scloosie
I honestly feel the change in format hurt that the most. In trying to make things a big stage show, it lost the impact of being people actually talking about games, and in some cases playing right there next to them. I still think it';s got better coverage than the other bigger shows, maybe minus Directs - but it certainly has had less time to fill with actual game trailers and announcements by being slick and over-produced
Is there a thread for PC hardware and building, or should I just ask here? I'm gonna build a new rig some time this year, and I have some generalized questions since I haven't built my own since 2013.
well there is this one:
|OT| - The PC Hardware Thread -- Buy/Upgrade/Ask/Answer
If you don't follow PC hardware it might be a bit daunting to buy a new system, or even just upgrade some components. That's where this thread comes in. I don't have time to create individual builds for every potential use case, and those would get outdated rather quickly anyway, so instead...
metacouncil.com
another great thread from Rob
i'll just post the entire thing in text form (otherwise i'd have to embed like 30 tweets, and nobody wants that)
i'll just post the entire thing in text form (otherwise i'd have to embed like 30 tweets, and nobody wants that
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To be fair to Epic, their nonsense did have two positive effects. One, through their media blitz they pushed Valve into being more communicative and two, their service is so terrible that it helped many people devalue the concept of timed exclusivity.
Predator: Hunting Grounds is apparently no good. Predator: Hunting Grounds
This one’s a bummer for me. I was really looking forward to what the Friday the 13th guys could do with the concept. Still though, there’s a trend where big Epic exclusives have just turned out to not be good games lately. Between this and the laughable Saints Row 3 Remastered I’m having to wonder if publishers have abandoned EGS as a brave new venture and now view it as a way to get a quick paycheck for something they know would bomb, like releasing a movie direct to video.
This one’s a bummer for me. I was really looking forward to what the Friday the 13th guys could do with the concept. Still though, there’s a trend where big Epic exclusives have just turned out to not be good games lately. Between this and the laughable Saints Row 3 Remastered I’m having to wonder if publishers have abandoned EGS as a brave new venture and now view it as a way to get a quick paycheck for something they know would bomb, like releasing a movie direct to video.
This sounds a lot worse than it really should.
Once Bigben started shitting out there low tier crap direct to Epic, Bee Simulator etc... you knew it wasn't going all that well for Timmy.
I hope moneyhatting all these mediocre games cost Epic loads of money, without gaining a significant amount of new customers.
Still curious how it will turn out for the Ooblets devs.
That was certainly an announcement that seems to have come early ( I assume, since I haven't heard that it has been released, but that is par for the course with Epic exclusives...)
That was certainly an announcement that seems to have come early ( I assume, since I haven't heard that it has been released, but that is par for the course with Epic exclusives...)
I'm sure Epic will reannounce it at some point. They've announced Maneater at least three times so far.
I’m not convinced that game is ever coming out. It’s been in development for four years, it’s been eight months since the EGS announcement, and they’ve updated with nothing aside from gifs of bugs they’ve encountered during development. Even if they were to release tomorrow, the ship has effectively sailed on the EGS train and their launch will be too quiet.
That's because Maneater and Industries of Titan are the only games worth anything the egs has in the near future.
I'm sure the devs will try to make some noise. Whether anyone pays attention, since Epic doesn't do promotion, if I recall; is a whole other issue.
It might do okay if there is a console release
I don't think so. According to their blog, they got so much money from Epic that they moved to an actual office and hired additional people working on the game.
Also, no doubt the media will jump to promote the game from these poor people who have been attacked by toxic Steam fanboys.
I am sure the Ooblet devs will come out in the next 6 to 12 months needing more money and it is somehow Steam's fault that they need more money.
They will create a Kickstarter or something equivalent and bank on Steam haters pumping more money into them.
The Kickstarter will fail but they will announce that their future is safe because a shadow investor gave them money.
Kickstarter was a toxic Steam-lover cesspool anyway and the loyal fans who tried to pledge with Kickstarter can do so with Paypal now because they got thousands upon thousands of request to directly pledge to them but had ethical issues with pledging through Kickstarter
no-one will ever see a financial report
After 2 or 3 years they will release what they have and quit game development because of toxicity
They will become professional bloggers reporting on steam toxicity.
They will create a Kickstarter or something equivalent and bank on Steam haters pumping more money into them.
The Kickstarter will fail but they will announce that their future is safe because a shadow investor gave them money.
Kickstarter was a toxic Steam-lover cesspool anyway and the loyal fans who tried to pledge with Kickstarter can do so with Paypal now because they got thousands upon thousands of request to directly pledge to them but had ethical issues with pledging through Kickstarter
no-one will ever see a financial report
After 2 or 3 years they will release what they have and quit game development because of toxicity
They will become professional bloggers reporting on steam toxicity.