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Mor

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- Steam wishlisting is much more important for visibility than EGS wishlisting.

I read somewhere that Steam wishlisting also helps the game in search engines like Google, so Steam wishlisting isn't just about the Steam store, but for around the web too.
Well, yeah, forgot to add the technical side haha :cat-heart-blob:
 

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I feel with the enormous amount of upcoming games, Epic will have big problems not only because it is not an open storefront, but the visibility for games on the store is trash.
 
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I didn't expect Epic to be so completely absent at E3. Feels ominous.
They still had plenty of titles on their store, as the EGS logo and 'generic' PC were on quite a few trailers, just no exclusives to mention/drop. Epic has their own thing coming up don't they? I'm sure well learn about new titles there
 

Mor

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They still had plenty of titles on their store, as the EGS logo and 'generic' PC were on quite a few trailers, just no exclusives to mention/drop. Epic has their own thing coming up don't they? I'm sure well learn about new titles there
they don't have anything coming shortly or even confirmed in public, even the supposed E3 event was not real.
 
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I feel with the enormous amount of upcoming games, Epic will have big problems not only because it is not an open storefront, but the visibility for games on the store is trash.
Unless a game is advertised on the front page or on a sales page, it's very unlikely to sell well on EGS. We've also seen this on the Switch, which was the holy grail for indies until more games were coming to that platform. Steam is the only digital storefront with decent discovery tools. I have no idea where the narrative that indie games are sent to die on Steam is coming from.
 

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Unless a game is advertised on the front page or on a sales page, it's very unlikely to sell well on EGS. We've also seen this on the Switch, which was the holy grail for indies until more games were coming to that platform. Steam is the only digital storefront with decent discovery tools. I have no idea where the narrative that indie games are sent to die on Steam is coming from.
A big problem with eshop isn't only that it's laggy and slow and it lacks data driven algorithms and dicovery features, but the best seller chart is units based unlike Steam and others which is based on revenue, which is why devs put on deep sale prices just to appear on the chart, so the moment they remove the discount, the game will still appear on the best seller chart for a while without discount.
 
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I don't mind if they're funding development instead of buying exclusives, hell, I'd support that.
Yeah, me too.

I mean, for all I know Epic might be the only reason Im getting an Alan Wake 2. Basically EGS will be used the same way as consoles, a place for full exclusive games.

Epic have to live and die by the games going under the Epic Publishing label since they are paying for everything.
 
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Remember that in the documents from the Epic v Apple case there was mention of two moneyhat models, "aggressive" and "winding down". I think that most of their moneyhatted games sold like crap and they are winding down.
Yeah I agree that it seems like unless we see a big change they're in the winding down phase.
There will still be major and minor exclusives but I think we're going to see less and less of them.
 

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I think any further exclusives will be "one offs" or exclusives they paid for years ago and circumstances meant the game was significantly delayed. See Sonic Colors. They're definitely in the winding down phase as far as third party exclusives go, and we're starting to see the store just get "simship" games, which means the EGS needs to stand up on its own merits as a place people want to buy games.

I'm not counting their first party publishing games here, mind - but I actually don't have a problem with them making those games exclusive because they undertook 100% of the risk on the game and, by all accounts, are giving developers a pretty sweet deal. My main issue has always been cherrypicking popular games towards the end of their development and artificially constricting customer choice.
 

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I still have to see one game made possible only by Epic, I'm glad they appear to be winding down but I still don't trust them lmao, I need more proof
 
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I still have to see one game made possible only by Epic, I'm glad they appear to be winding down but I still don't trust them lmao, I need more proof
Any game published by them was literally funded by Epic games, and they are assuming all the risk.

So far their exclusives aren't that - they're just games they cherrypicked from the Steam wish list charts or because they knew it'd generate buzz for their store - but I expect when we start seeing Epic Games' logo on the box as publisher we will start to see projects that they incubated from very early days. Some of them will be good games, some of them will be bad. I imagine a fair few get cancelled too, as is the reality of being a publisher.
 

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From what I understood regarding Epic Publishing, Epic is completely funding the game, the salary for the devs, paying for the marketing etc. while the devs get's to keep the IP themselves. It's a risky move because with Sony, MS and Nintendo first party titles, those companies knows their devs, like Playground and Naughty Dog, they've grown with them and they know what Playground or Naughty Dog is capable of doing, they are like "family" in a sense (I know, odd word). What Epic is doing on the other hand is risking a lot of money on developer they might know know how skilled they are. Making a successfull game takes a lot of skill and Epic won't have that relationship with the devs they partner with under their publishing label.

In that regard I will actually give Epic some respect. What they are doing is risky and the games can easily fail, while the other companies like Sony with Insoniac or Naughty Dog, Sony know what they can do and has helped them grow over the years.
 

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From what I understood regarding Epic Publishing, Epic is completely funding the game, the salary for the devs, paying for the marketing etc. while the devs get's to keep the IP themselves. It's a risky move because with Sony, MS and Nintendo first party titles, those companies knows their devs, like Playground and Naughty Dog, they've grown with them and they know what Playground or Naughty Dog is capable of doing, they are like "family" in a sense (I know, odd word). What Epic is doing on the other hand is risking a lot of money on developer they might know know how skilled they are. Making a successfull game takes a lot of skill and Epic won't have that relationship with the devs they partner with under their publishing label.

In that regard I will actually give Epic some respect. What they are doing is risky and the games can easily fail, while the other companies like Sony with Insoniac or Naughty Dog, Sony know what they can do and has helped them grow over the years.
That's probably why Epic is only publishing games from devs who have been very successful in the past before.

This said, Epic publishing these games is much better than their money hatting, and I don't mind it at all. I won't buy any of these games tho, since Epic is far ahead on top of my "shitty games companies" list. No way I'll be giving them my money.
 

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Recently played games now display when right-clicking on the Epic Games Launcher system tray icon.
 

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That's probably why Epic is only publishing games from devs who have been very successful in the past before.

This said, Epic publishing these games is much better than their money hatting, and I don't mind it at all. I won't buy any of these games tho, since Epic is far ahead on top of my "shitty games companies" list. No way I'll be giving them my money.
So far only 3 have been announced. Playdead had made fantastic games, but they take long as hell to make them. Gendesign has helped out with Ico, Shadow of the Colossus and TLG, games that are super niche, didn't sell well and they got help from Sony Japan Studio on them all. Remedy has made great games, but none of them have sold well at all, Alan Wake is niche and not well known at all.

Meaning pretty much all the studios they've announced so far is risky.
 
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That's probably why Epic is only publishing games from devs who have been very successful in the past before.

This said, Epic publishing these games is much better than their money hatting, and I don't mind it at all. I won't buy any of these games tho, since Epic is far ahead on top of my "shitty games companies" list. No way I'll be giving them my money.
AW2 had a couple of big names interested and Epic when to grab it since it had chances of being another crítical darling
 
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They do seem to have changed tact a bit, it was hinted to in the court documents. Instead of taking games off steam they are more interesting in not allowing steam pseudo-exclusives by making sure anything popular also launches on Epic. The carrot is then the USD$10 vouchers instead of the stick being more exclusives. There will still be exclusives obviously but the market has spoken and no one likes Epics no matter how much money they throw at advertising and influencers.
 

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The top sellers and most played still hasn't updated since you posted this.
 

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Finally, the Amethyst codename! :evilblob:







Edit: I need to check something. Big if true. :face-with-open-mouth-and-cold-sweat:
Edit²: FF7 Remake will be on EGS for sure.
 
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Mor

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Edit²: FF7 Remake will be on EGS for sure.
Yes, I can tell you this is true.


The top sellers and most played still hasn't updated since you posted this.
This is something I don't understand, have they changed it to a weekly update instead of daily? if it's weekly next update should be happening next Monday.
 

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Do you guys think that Tony Hawk will hit Steam after the 1 year?

My room mate got a PS5 and I'm kinda itching to buy it there since it isn't confirmed for steam and its Activision.
 

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Do you guys think that Tony Hawk will hit Steam after the 1 year?

My room mate got a PS5 and I'm kinda itching to buy it there since it isn't confirmed for steam and its Activision.
I doubt it. If Activision even bothers putting it on another platform, it will probably be Bnet.

Yes, I can tell you this is true.

This is something I don't understand, have they changed it to a weekly update instead of daily? if it's weekly next update should be happening next Monday.
I have no clue. I also have to wonder if they include preorders in their top sellers. The lack of Battlefield 2042 when it updated is extremely odd.
 

Mor

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Do you guys think that Tony Hawk will hit Steam after the 1 year?

My room mate got a PS5 and I'm kinda itching to buy it there since it isn't confirmed for steam and its Activision.
No, it won't or at least I don't expect it to appear on Steam.
I have no clue. I also have to wonder if they include preorders in their top sellers. The lack of Battlefield 2042 when it updated is extremely odd.
Yeah, it's weird, sad that we can't keep a clear track of this chart U_U
 

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Do you guys think that Tony Hawk will hit Steam after the 1 year?
I doubt it. If Activision even bothers putting it on another platform, it will probably be Bnet.
yup ... pretty much this

i can only imagine THPS was the first game they were planning on making bnet exclusive until Tim showed up with the money truck

that would explain why they had sales expectations that were low enough to go with a moneyhat instead
 
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Mor

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From the Ooblets devs:


well, as we said, those documents that leaked while official were from 2019 and it a clausule that literally said "subject to changes" so... yeah, it's timed and it will probably come with 1.0
 

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Unless I'm reading this wrong, Madden 22 isn't coming to EGS. EA continues to confuse me with their plans.

From the Ooblets devs:


I saw this mentioned on Reddit, but that slide that showed the games which are supposedly lifetime exclusives was missing additional context. The full slide shows the games listed have the lifetime Minimum Guarantee deal which is what Epic supposedly uses for newer exclusive contracts. Originally a game that didn't recoup its Minimum Guarantee after 12 months would start to earn revenue normally, but newer exclusives require games to recoup their entire guarantee, even if it takes years. I think that's where the confusion that games like World War Z were lifetime exclusives comes from.

Edit: It might also explain why the EGS version of Mechwarrior 5 wasn't even mentioned at the PC Gaming Show last week. They might have never recouped their entire guarantee and just decided to cut their losses.
 

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Genuine question

Why is there always free games in their top seller list? Are they really including microtransactions?