|OT| Genshin Impact - Breath of the Elements

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When rolling gachas, always wait until you can do a 10 pull because 10 pulls guarantee at least 1 will be a 4* weapon or character. Single pulls don't guarantee that even if you do the single pull 10 times in a row.
Correction for Genshin Impact at least: there is no difference between doing one 10 pull or 10 one pulls, the internal counter treats them both the same. Single pulls are only more "work" in terms having to skip through and accept every single pull.




There's a supposed leak for the next few upcoming rate up banners after Venti: it will be Klee with Xiangliang, Xingqui and Noelle as 4*s; and then Xiao with Xingqui.
Considering I don't really want any of those, I figured I'd try my luck on the Venti banner. I have no illusions to get him, but Fischl would be neat, and that seems realistic.
Anyway, I got Beidou and Barbara. Barbara you also get for free at AR 20. And boy is she amazing. As far as I'm aware she's currently the only "dedicated" healer character in the game.
I did some jolly co-op yesterday and we madmen figured we'll fight a lvl 36 world boss I found (with our characters being at 20 :grimacing-face: )
We died once and the second time I brought Barbara to the party and suddenly we were really hard to kill. And won. :blob_hype:
Her heals scale with her Max HP so I've slapped all my Artifacts that give HP boni on her and leveled them. She has more then double her regular HP right now :grimacing-face:

Getting her for free at AR20 as well is very nice, however that's only time limited, so if you don't play enough to get her before the event is over? Tough luck. Already showing the F2P service game abyss :grimacing-face:
 
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Hell yeah



I really wanted her.
Btw, is there a way to make UI-less screenshots without the watermarks?
 
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So I reached AR20 and...
The game now has a Battle Pass.... the fuck LOL.
I mean yeah, it's pretty much the norm for service games. At least there's a free version of the battle pass.

Hell yeah



I really wanted her.
Btw, is there a way to make UI-less screenshots without the watermarks?
Congrats! She's my main character for exploring and opening attack, pretty good sniper and combo starter.

You can hide your ID on the bottom left of the screen, but you can't hide the game's watermark, unfortunately.
 

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I mean yeah, it's pretty much the norm for service games. At least there's a free version of the battle pass.


Congrats! She's my main character for exploring and opening attack, pretty good sniper and combo starter.

You can hide your ID on the bottom left of the screen, but you can't hide the game's watermark, unfortunately.
Yeah, she's great.
Here's my current team:


(they are all ascended once, but I haven't leveled hem beyond 20 yet).
The synergy between them is amazing and hella fun.

And I didn't knew about hiding the ID, thanks! But is it just me or does it reset every time you open the photo mode? <.<

Anyway, the game is wallpaper factory isn't it.


 

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There's some level of autolock for all weapons and skills. Depends on how strong it is, the bow is crazy and can shoot out of camera targets, the claymore doesn't track much.

Also my advice would be to reroll your account early on, so that you can get a least a character or two that ou like.
The free characters beside the MC are not very strong, and pretty basic.
 

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I also pulled Fischl. Reading her talent descriptions and other character information has reminded me of another thing that I wanted to mention which positively surprised me about this game: the quality of the English translation, specifically the writing (I don't use English audio so I can't comment on that).

The writing is pretty consistently high quality, and in some parts its positively witty. A far cry from the translations in the few gacha games I've played.
Fischl is a great example because a character like her (an extreme chuunibyou case with a deadpan raven companion) would be easy to mess up, but it's actually done well and the humor works (at least for me).
 

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Well, I unlocked some characters with primogems/currency the game gave me: Xiangling, Barbara, Noelle, and Fischl. I was hoping for Venti, but I guess these will do?
 
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I also pulled Fischl. Reading her talent descriptions and other character information has reminded me of another thing that I wanted to mention which positively surprised me about this game: the quality of the English translation, specifically the writing (I don't use English audio so I can't comment on that).

The writing is pretty consistently high quality, and in some parts its positively witty. A far cry from the translations in the few gacha games I've played.
Fischl is a great example because a character like her (an extreme chuunibyou case with a deadpan raven companion) would be easy to mess up, but it's actually done well and the humor works (at least for me).
Yeah, the writing is superb. I found myself reading all the character profiles, dialogues, and even the books!

Well, I unlocked some characters with primogems/currency the game gave me: Xiangling, Barbara, Noelle, and Fischl. I was hoping for Venti, but I guess these will do?
That's some decent pull. Fischl is an S-tier support/enabler character, and Xiangling is the best free DPS character while Barbara is the best healer. It's not a bad thing if you pull a duplicate as it'll be useful to unlock the character's constellation (more passives).
 

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70 pulls without Fischl, at this point I'll get Venti from pity first before Fischl.

:jj_mofo:

Got to AR23 and played coop for world boss hunting, the difference between CBT coop experience and right now is pretty huge.
 
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The game is starting to get more challenging on world level 1.

On top of higher leveled enemies, some quests have multiple waves and some encounters have multiple mini bosses like the brutes and mages. I was also unprepared for the elite bosses and they wrecked me up real good on my first try. :face-with-open-mouth-and-cold-sweat:
 
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Question regarding "pity" for the featured characters one... You pull 89-90 times, and are guaranteed 1 5 star, which 50% of the time will be the promo character... If you don't get the promo character, then you are guaranteed the promo character if you do 89 more? So in order to 100% guaranteed to get the promo you need to pull 180 times?

And each 10 pull costs 10 intertwined fates, which each cost 1,600 primogems, which costs 1,600 genesis crystals, which costs $30?

Also... what is the battle pass? Is that the blessing of the welkin moon?
 
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Question regarding "pity" for the featured characters one... You pull 89-90 times, and are guaranteed 1 5 star, which 50% of the time will be the promo character... If you don't get the promo character, then you are guaranteed the promo character if you do 89 more? So in order to 100% guaranteed to get the promo you need to pull 180 times?

And each 10 pull costs 10 intertwined fates, which each cost 1,600 primogems, which costs 1,600 genesis crystals, which costs $35?
Yeah, sounds about right, except the $35 price tag. You get a lot of free pulls from launch events and progressions, as well as trading the dust with fates from the shop. You can also buy the monthly $5 thing to get 2700 primogems and 300 genesis crystal throughout the month.
 

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Yeah, sounds about right, except the $35 price tag. You get a lot of free pulls from launch events and progressions, as well as trading the dust with fates from the shop. You can also buy the monthly $5 thing to get 2700 primogems and 300 genesis crystal throughout the month.
I was just reading about people re-rolling to get Venti, and at 0.6% drop rate, I'll pass. I was thinking "Well, just buy it!" but after looking at the money you could potentially drop on that... yikes.
 
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I was just reading about people re-rolling to get Venti, and at 0.6% drop rate, I'll pass. I was thinking "Well, just buy it!" but after looking at the money you could potentially drop on that... yikes.
Yeah, whaling is definitely not worth it in Genshin, the rates are so abysmal. Getting the monthly $5 boon should be enough for most people to get some pulls as you play, probably the battle pass too if you're going serious with the game.

I'm at AR20 right now and I've pulled the gacha 70 times without spending a dime.
 
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I did reroll, only to get trash.
And my "okay this will be it, sucks I didn't get anything good" roll got me Noelle (duh), Venti and Sucrose, with Fischl and Xiangling in the next.

But it's a huuuge downer and certainly doesn't make you want to roll when you get trash 9 times out of 10. And even then 4 star weapons are barely in the decent category.
Characters are just too rare in the gacha, it's hard to justify paying money when you get almost nothing from them. At least the sub and battle pass are much more honest and generous.
 
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Question regarding "pity" for the featured characters one... You pull 89-90 times, and are guaranteed 1 5 star, which 50% of the time will be the promo character... If you don't get the promo character, then you are guaranteed the promo character if you do 89 more? So in order to 100% guaranteed to get the promo you need to pull 180 times?

And each 10 pull costs 10 intertwined fates, which each cost 1,600 primogems, which costs 1,600 genesis crystals, which costs $30?

Also... what is the battle pass? Is that the blessing of the welkin moon?
Buying the currency packs is way not worth it. The 100$ currency purchase gets you "only" 40 pulls, which isn't even halfway to the needed pity amount for the 50% chance of getting the featured 5* character.

At most the 5$ Blessing of the Welkin Moon is decent value, where you get 3000 primogems over a month (300 immediately and then 70 per day), although you do need to log in for that every day. But that does give you almost 20 pulls and you should get enough free currency to try your luck a decent amount of times, at least during this beginning period, where they are giving away a lot of them. We'll need to say how generous they are with events in the future.

The battle pass is called Gnostic Hymn and only unlocks at AR 20, and is priced at 9,99$ iirc, with a 19,99$ version that just unlocks everything straight away.
 
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I really feel like the way to enjoy this game is to not even worry about the gacha.

I haven't even used any of my Primogems.
 

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I tried to buy the Blessing of Welkin because I'm enjoying the game but my bank refused it.

The writing is pretty consistently high quality, and in some parts its positively witty. A far cry from the translations in the few gacha games I've played.
Fischl is a great example because a character like her (an extreme chuunibyou case with a deadpan raven companion) would be easy to mess up, but it's actually done well and the humor works (at least for me).
I was also surprised by how well translated it is to my language. There were some minor typos but nothing that doesn't make sense.
 
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PSA for controller users:

You can actually add Genshin to Steam and use the overlay for custom controller config. It didn't work at first for me, but the fix was simple, just run Steam and the game as administrator.

That said, there's already a community made config with gyro aiming enabled by holding L2. Furthermore, since the inverted confirm/cancel buttons seem to annoy a lot of people, this can fix that problem too. Simply switch the A and B button from the Steam configuration and you're all set. Just pretend that you're playing on a Switch Pro controller or something.

 
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Correction for Genshin Impact at least: there is no difference between doing one 10 pull or 10 one pulls, the internal counter treats them both the same. Single pulls are only more "work" in terms having to skip through and accept every single pull.
Gotcha, fixed.

Yeah, she's great.
Here's my current team:


(they are all ascended once, but I haven't leveled hem beyond 20 yet).
The synergy between them is amazing and hella fun.
😲 Nice team! Barbara is great. I pulled Fischl but haven't tried her out yet. Chongyun and Razor look like a ton of fun. I'm very happy with Diluc so I'm trying to rock the double Pyro dps boost but with that team you're set too.
 
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I'm still not set in which character will be part of my main team so I've been trying different combinations.
 
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Yeah, I think it's better to have multiple party setups for different situtation than just one static party. The mats for the first ascension are easy to come by anyway. I have a party for exploration (with 2 winds) and another one for bossing/dungeoning (with 2 pyro). I wish there's a shortcut to switch between them though.
 

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Yeah, I think it's better to have multiple party setups for different situtation than just one static party. The mats for the first ascension are easy to come by anyway. I have a party for exploration (with 2 winds) and another one for bossing/dungeoning (with 2 pyro). I wish there's a shortcut to switch between them though.
Definitely. I tried to fight that electro cube boss yesterday, and as expected my electro-based party was utterly useless. I tried it again today with a Barbara - Chongyun - Xiangling - MC party and that worked much better.
Also the bosses so far are really cool to fight.

And yeah, a shortcut for switching between parties would be much appreciated.
 
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So I started playing it and Im really liking it, have to play with KB/M as I can't handle B being "confirm" and A being "back" on my Xbox controller.
Welcome to Teyvat!

I actually posted a short guide above to revert back confirm and cancel in a few post above. It's not ideal, but it works for now.
 

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I'm AL15 now, and Ascended my PC as well as Barbara and Fishcl. Still need to find some plants to get Xiangling but I think they come from an area I haven't been to yet. So far leveling up gear seems to be harder than leveling my characters... Though maybe I'm missing something.
 
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I feel like I'm not getting the most out of the fire element, I've mostly been using a party of lightning/water/ice group and only really have fire there to burn things and for ice enemies
 

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Yeah, the heavy weapon animations reminded me of Automata a bit. Then again, you could probably find decent matches between weapon animations in many games.
 

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Mihoyo certainly hasn't been shy that BOTW was one of the games that strongly influenced them; I would not be surprised on Automata being another strong influence. The passion behind this game is so obvious and a major reason that people already love it.
 

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If you're going to get inspired (and let's be honest here: the vast majority of popular games are not by any means beacons of originality) you could do worse than being inspired by BotW and Nier:A!
 

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I managed to get up to 1,600 primogems again, and pulled a second Fischl.... AND VENTI! Yay! :smiling-face-with-heart-shaped-eyes:
 
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Is it the diamond? You get that from your AL rewards, which you manually claim from the Adventurer League.
Thanks, hmm I have to check tomorrow, it was the item with a green background.

Apparently the game has ads in German TV (or so I was told, I literally haven't watched TV in years :p).

I really wouldn't have expected that!
Oh wow that is surprising, is the ad on YouTube? I also don't really watched TV in years :p
 
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I feel like I'm not getting the most out of the fire element, I've mostly been using a party of lightning/water/ice group and only really have fire there to burn things and for ice enemies
That's what makes this game unique, each player will have their own party setup and playing style. There maybe 2 players who have totally the same characters in their roster, but they may still use different setups.

Yeah, even without a direct comparison like that, I already noticed the similarities. On top of that, the floating weapon at the back is similar.

I managed to get up to 1,600 primogems again, and pulled a second Fischl.... AND VENTI! Yay! :smiling-face-with-heart-shaped-eyes:
Wow, that's a sick pull. Even the duplicate is useful to unlock her constellation. Congrats!
 
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I think figuring out who I want on my team vs. it being effective is where I'm struggling right now.

Venti is super fun, and very useful out in the world. Being able to summon a wind draft is great for tricky to reach areas. He's also great for grouping up enemies. Fischl is amazing as damage support, summoning Oz and then swapping out for Xiangling is great damage. I like bringing the MC just because he's supposed to be the protagonist, and he's fine! But I also really like having Barbara to basically be invincible or at least top everyone up.

And then you need certain elemental types for puzzles in dungeons, or for unlocking stuff in the open world, or for finishing challenges/trials... And everyone says to only focus on building up 1-2 characters!
 
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Focusing on one or two characters is fine very early on, but you pretty quickly need to have at least 4 decent ones to tackle the spiral.
And then 8.
 
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I have 6 ascended characters already, and they're like level 30-35. I have different party setups for different content/situation. The focusing on 1-2 characters is probably for the last ascension for much later. Early ascension materials are not that hard to come by, and exp is infinite whether by clearing content or opening chests.
 
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So... I bought the battle pass. But some of the things are confusing. Like, what is an Elite Opponent? Does that only mean the level 36 world bosses?
 

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Is there any incentive for playing coop? The early dungeons are mostly just for materials and are very short, just wondering if you get bonus drops or anything