|OT| Genshin Impact - Breath of the Elements

Ascheroth · Oct 4, 2020

I've switched out Chongyun for Xiangling, I feel like Chongyun's ice field skill isn't as good as I thought. Fire + Electro + Water works nicely as well.
And I've reached Rank 25! Now to gather mats and stuff to ascend my team!

Also, Liyue is like 3 times more interesting than Mondstadt. I haven't started the main quest there yet, but activated all teleporters

and it has some really cool locales and puzzles. And quests in very unexpected locations that the game expects you to find on your own.
(I found Beidous ship

)

Durante · Oct 4, 2020

I finished the Mondstadt story today, still enjoying the game a lot.

I love using Fischl as support, but I'm still flip-flopping on the rest of my party.

Anteater · Oct 4, 2020

I've just been using Fischl, Barbara and Chongyun. Chongyun is my main source of damage, I don't know what to do with the 4th, I have Amber but it feels out of place but I definitely need her for all the ice stuff I need to burn.

I haven't really been doing the story lol, but I think I wasn't high enough so I was just exploring and doing quests, and I love it, so far I think the quality for the quests are decent, there are decent amount of stuff you could run into, so it's a lot less "WoW"-type MMO quests but more exploration oriented, of course there are still some of those daily quests from town or whatever. I'm exploring Liyue and ascended all my current characters once.

texhnolyze said:
I've only tried co-op once, but from what I know you can kill bosses in the host's world and get the loot even though you've killed that boss in your world. So that's a boon if you're looking for a specific loot from a boss/dungeon that's still on cooldown in your world. You can also loot the host's chests.

Guess i'll see when i get to higher level dungeons

Dandy · Oct 4, 2020

Welp! I finally fought the dragon... and it didn't go well! I don't think I really understood when I could do damage to him, so I kept waiting and waiting and eventually Venti died and the rest of my team couldn't hit him lol.

Panda Pedinte · Oct 4, 2020

Dandy said:
Welp! I finally fought the dragon... and it didn't go well! I don't think I really understood when I could do damage to him, so I kept waiting and waiting and eventually Venti died and the rest of my team couldn't hit him lol.

What level were your characters? I found the whole fight pretty easy. You just wait

until the dragon puts its claws in the platform, hit them until the white bar bellow his health drops, climb the dragon and attacks the infected part

Dandy · Oct 5, 2020

Panda Pedinte said:
What level were your characters? I found the whole fight pretty easy. You just wait

until the dragon puts its claws in the platform, hit them until the white bar bellow his health drops, climb the dragon and attacks the infected part

Yeah, I missed the claws part. Will try again tonight!

Panda Pedinte · Oct 5, 2020

texhnolyze said:
Here's a couple of good videos to maximize your party output and synergy.

Anyway, weekly battle pass challenges will be reset today.

Thank you for sharing those. I'll watch it later.

Ascheroth · Oct 5, 2020

texhnolyze said:
Here's a couple of good videos to maximize your party output and synergy.

Anyway, weekly battle pass challenges will be reset today.

It's probably helpful but the first tip literally being "look at this interactive map of the game that shows you all the stuff and collect the important ones" is uuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh, not what I'm looking for.

Acidote · Oct 5, 2020

I've been switching my characters to "get rid" of Amber mainly, and now I'm out of gold. I guess I'll have start sending my characters on missions for gold instead of crystals.

Blu · Oct 5, 2020

Played a bit last night since I finally had some time off and reached AR10. Pretty good! Very good quality feeling for a F2P gacha game. Game doesn't even force upon you the gacha (at least from what I remember) until I had to look up what they were.

I was able to get 20 of those Acquaint Fate and 10 Intertwined Fate. Are all those free ones? Received both by mail and want know I missed any. I did two beginner pulls and got Diluc, Razor, Xingqiu, and Noelle. Seems pretty decent?

I saw you can get Xiangling from doing a challenge when you reach AR20 so I'll try doing that before it ends and you can get a Barbara for just reaching AR20 before 1 1. Anything else I should be aware of?

Are those EXP books the main way to level up? Doing missions don't seem to keep all the characters to a good level.

Dandy · Oct 5, 2020

I tried to do one of those bloom things on mobile... Never again lol. I'm sticking to PC for everything.

Line · Oct 5, 2020

It's great that it's cross platform and cross save on mobile, but I can't imagine the timed, targeting and platforming challenges being very fun on it.

Also it can't be said enough, but upgrade your artifacts (with +ATK%, or the element of your character, or their best scaling stat like +DEF on Noelle), the damage bonuses get absurd.
Don't hesitate to use blues with decent bonuses, you can just throw them into your epics later with little loss of artifact XP and a much easier life for dozens of hours.

Acidote · Oct 5, 2020

Is the mobile version of the game controller compatible?

Anteater · Oct 5, 2020

I kind of like the exp books system, don't need to level up if I don't wanna. I can always level if things get too spongey.

Ascheroth · Oct 6, 2020

Razor is a beast (pun not intended).
He has over 700 Atk right now at level 40 and I'm not yet done upgrading accessories or weapon

Also ascended him to stage 2 yesterday, and it looks like this is where some limitations are noticeably kicking in. Because those ascension materials require defeating the world bosses, and getting their loot costs 40 resin (of which you have 120 max and it regenerates at a rate of 1 per 8 minutes I think ). And weapon ascension also costs mats that you mostly get from the Domains, where loot also costs resin to open. And there's a bunch of other stuff that also costs resin.

I don't really mind it that much though so far, because honestly I'm pretty sure that's already beyond what you need to comfortably finish all the story and side-content that isn't designed to be extra-difficult repeatable end-game content like the Abyss I guess. But it does slow you down

Dandy · Oct 6, 2020

I regret buying the battle pass... I don't see myself getting to level 30 in the next 35 days. The weekly requirements seem really high for someone who has other interests beyond playing Genshin Impact. If the dailies were even close enough to get there, I'd be fine with it, but the dailies won't even get you 1 level a day.

Oh, and Baldur's Gate 3 early access starts today.

Ascheroth · Oct 6, 2020

Dandy said:
I regret buying the battle pass... I don't see myself getting to level 30 in the next 35 days. The weekly requirements seem really high for someone who has other interests beyond playing Genshin Impact. If the dailies were even close enough to get there, I'd be fine with it, but the dailies won't even get you 1 level a day.

Oh, and Baldur's Gate 3 early access starts today.

Yeah the Battle Pass seems very grindy. This is actually the first game I'm playing that has a battle pass, so I don't have a comparison, but it seems way too much work for me, and I've basically been only playing Genshin Impact for a week now

I'll stick to the free version of it and get what I can get playing normally ¯\(ツ)/¯

Totally unrelated, but I've been thinking that Diluc might have actually intended to be Dirk. That's what I got from listening to the japanese dub and considering Mondstadt is very german/european themed with other character names as well.

Blu · Oct 6, 2020

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Durante · Oct 6, 2020

I found and played the nameless island questline today. That was really neat.

Also, I still use my MC as my primary DPS character.

Panda Pedinte · Oct 7, 2020

Exploring the Liyue region and I can't believe I got up there

TioChuck · Oct 7, 2020

Durante said:
I found and played the nameless island questline today. That was really neat.

Also, I still use my MC as my primary DPS character.

When I first saw the island I thought it was just fluff outside the boundaries of the world, but I decided to build me a bridge with Kaeya's ice just to see if it was anything, got me an achievement and a quest, pretty nice.

Panda Pedinte said:
Exploring the Liyue region and I can't believe I got up there

That was pretty cool, and it is a pretty good hub to use to fly around looking for stuff.

Cordelia · Oct 7, 2020

This game might be copying a lot of stuff from other games but environment design and OST is really great.

PS: this domain is really hard.
PPS: why the fuck can't I use photo mode inside domain

DriftedPlanet · Oct 7, 2020

texhnolyze said:
No, not yet. It's been highly requested since the beta.

The best thing we can do now is streaming. Here's how I play Genshin half of the time.

[Hidden content]

Have you been using Moonlight or Parsec? I'm about to give it a go. Should stream well (desktop wired -> gigabit switch -> wifi5 5ghz eap -> sd720g-based phone) but not sure if the game will read the Razer Kishi as a proper controller for that comfortable Switch-like experience.

Panda Pedinte · Oct 7, 2020

I feel now it's time to upgrade the artifacts as the time spent to kill some higher level mobs have gone up considerately, though. I still did not decided on my main team. I enjoy Traveller Ameno and Fischl, Barbara is useful not only for her heals but also her attack making enemies become wet and it synergize with Fischl bird ability. Other character I'm enjoying the combat style is Ningguang, or maybe it just her design that appeal to me ;P too bad Geo doesn't create damage reactions though she seems to run faster than the other characters, at least that was my impression.

Unrelated, but I found that place while exploring yesterday:

Anteater · Oct 7, 2020

Is Geo mostly for the barrier and defense? I haven't really been using it much.

Ascheroth · Oct 7, 2020

Anteater said:
Is Geo mostly for the barrier and defense? I haven't really been using it much.

I think so. But I also haven't really used it much. I'm running Water/Fire/Electro now

Panda Pedinte · Oct 7, 2020

Anteater said:
Is Geo mostly for the barrier and defense? I haven't really been using it much.

Pretty much yes., though if you have two Geo on your team and the shield is active you get +15% Attack DMG.

Blu · Oct 7, 2020

Is there any reason to not ascend a character if you have the required materials?

Anteater · Oct 7, 2020

Love exploring in this game, also enjoy talking to npcs since they actually put some thoughts into their characters.

Ascheroth · Oct 7, 2020

Blu said:
Is there any reason to not ascend a character if you have the required materials?

For the level 20 ascension, not really. Mats are easy enough to come by. Though if it's a character you never play as, you might still want to save them.
For the second ascension at 40 you want to start prioritizing though, since gathering the mats requires a bit of effort and Resin.

Line · Oct 7, 2020

Blu said:
Is there any reason to not ascend a character if you have the required materials?

Monies, pretty much.
Mora becomes an issue after a while.

Did 20 pulls, 2 4 stars weapons

TioChuck · Oct 8, 2020

This game man...

People really don't like when you invade their ship, lol.

Panda Pedinte · Oct 8, 2020

TioChuck said:
This game man...

People really don't like when you invade their ship, lol.

Happened with both boats, those little details are so cool.

Ascheroth · Oct 9, 2020

Line said:
Monies, pretty much.
Mora becomes an issue after a while.

Did 20 pulls, 2 4 stars weapons

Mora is definitely becoming a bit of a potential bottleneck.

I have my main team on Ascension 2, and from level 40 to 50 it costs ~100k using the puple EXP books. And you still want to upgrade talents, weapons and artefacts.

Though at the same time it's not really an issue for me yet, since my characters are plenty strong already and it doesn't hamper the exploration and questing at all. (I'm AR 27 and haven't even started the Liyue story, though I explored a good chunk of it and did a bunch of world quests there already).

If you want to reach the maximum power threshold asap things are going to get very expensive, but if you just upgrade a little every day it's fine. We'll see how long that lasts and when/if things are starting to get really painful.

In terms of pulls, I have 70something in the Venti banner. I think I'll do a few more to get another 4* and then maybe save the rest for another rate-up banner, as pity carries over.
I don't really want Venti, but I'd be happy with some of the other 5* characters you might get, but gambling on the 50% chance of not getting Venti and instead getting a character I want doesn't sound like too much of a winning strategy

(I've been mainly pulling on it because I like all of the featured 4* characters - I have C0 Fishl, C2 Barbara and C2 Xiangling in my main team - and wouldn't have minded Venti if I "luckily" pulled him early on, but now that I'm reaching the pity threshold holding out for a character I actually want is becoming more attractive).

Ascheroth · Oct 9, 2020

There's also this post that explains how the craftable 4* Crescent Pike is insane for Xiangling if you use her as a primary damage dealer

Im using a Halberd on her to pump up that ATK stat. Though I'm mainly using her as support.
My team is C0 Fishl, C2 Barbara C2 Xiangling and C0 Razor, and my basic rotation is:
Fischl plops down the Raven, Xiangling plops down Gouba, switch to Barbara (either use her E or not, depending on the situation), switch to Razor (he gets 50% extra ATK from Barbara's Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers for 10seconds) and go into beast mode to literally tear everything apart.

Xiangling is my main damage dealer for electro enemies though (like the Electro-cube) and Razor has the downside that he loses his Burst when its activated and you switch him out, which makes the uptime for the elemental reactions a bit inefficient, so I've been thinking of using her more as a primary DD, since she plays well with Barbara and Fischl, and I could use my Anemo traveller instead of Razor to make some firestorms

(I've really been neglecting my Traveller

)

Line · Oct 9, 2020

texhnolyze said:
There are some really good tips you can find in Reddit. Like this one for example. You can use Ningguang to make a static MC wind burst by aiming it at one of the pillars, which is super useful for huge bosses. Without it, the wind burst will travel through the boss' body and deal less damage. Venti is great for this reason, but not everyone can have him (well tbf, Ningguang too).

Another one is Xiangling combo: Full weapon combo > dash to animation cancel > charge attack > jump to animation cancel (you can jump the instant u see the spiral cone thingy which means the 2nd hit of charge atk has registered) > plunge attack.

Players are definitely discovering how to exploit the game fully. Makes the tier list far, faaar less true than it might seem at a glance.
Also for Xiangling, the Crescent Pike +20% damage bonus when you get a particle is effectively permanent in combat... but it's actually a "proc" and not extra damage. On EACH hit. And it is multiplied by bonuses. So it can give free extra damage than can get to much, much more than 20% of your base damage and it scales.
Crazy.

Plus today I had enough for 10 pulls.
Got an extra Venti, always welcome, but a 5 stars double also gets you 10 starglitter, so I could buy Razor in the shop.
Now I only need Qiqi and I have two teams ready to go!

I'll wait for a banner I guess, seems like it could come around December.

Panda Pedinte · Oct 9, 2020

texhnolyze said:
There are some really good tips you can find in Reddit. Like this one for example. You can use Ningguang to make a static MC wind burst by aiming it at one of the pillars, which is super useful for huge bosses. Without it, the wind burst will travel through the boss' body and deal less damage. Venti is great for this reason, but not everyone can have him (well tbf, Ningguang too).

I need to try that combo with Ningguang ability.

texhnolyze said:
Wow, 6 weeks for every update? People are going to leave this game sooner than later. What a huge bummer.

I feel conflicted about it. In one hand an update every 6 weeks means I don't need to invest much time and I can play it on my own pace, on the other hand if I already finish all the story content and explored all the places that is available I don't know if the grind can keep me interested.

Line · Oct 9, 2020

There's no doubt that updates will take a while, it's a full on open world RPG, not two PNGs to add every other week. MMOs know all too well how it works (and how people can grind the same 15min dungeon every day for months, even with box+expansions+sub+cash shop+extra "convenience" subs that would be obscene even in a fucking gacha), you can never make content fast enough.

They do need frequent events to keep players engaged, it's both much easier and much less expensive than an entire zone.

Cordelia · Oct 9, 2020

It basically just like Honkai Impact. New update after the battle pass ended.

Just got to AR35, it's time to slow down and start to proper gearing my main DPS

Blu · Oct 9, 2020

I'm sure they're working to get the content out as soon as Paimonly possible.

Game has gotten a very good first impression be a shame if they waste it. Hopefully they can keep delivering and the playerbase is patient enough.

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