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Mivey

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Aren't people bored of marvel stuff yet? Can someone let me out of this timeline please?
Why does it bother you that things exist? Just don't play or watch any Marvel stuff? If I had a magic wish to remove something from this world, there's plenty of vile and wretched things I'd rather remove from this world than something as harmless as a brand of comic book IPs
 

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I’d like a doctor strange game, that and iron man are my most wanted.
I think a Venom game could also be fun, I’d love to have a character with symbiote powers.
 

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The industry is way too creatively bankrupt at the top to stop taking superhero deals for their games.

Its interesting EA is the one landing these deals. I wonder who else is bidding on these properties. Iron Man deserves a game tho more than most since there is potential there to really make something unique and may even be a good shooter. They can use Anthem tech n everything. I would be more excited for that than Wonder Woman, Wolverine or Black Panther. Those 3 seem like they will be more beat em up Arkham style games. Same with Spider-Man 2. Just more of stuff you already played before.

Also worth noting that the tech in the deck is newer than in the PS4. The deck is closer to the new consoles adjusted for resolution.
Hope I'm wrong and the port is good for deck n all. I remember beating the game on PS4 and thinking how sluggish it was from start to finish. The performance was rough especially the MJ parts. The game was very ambitious visually and iirc it was still 30fps on the PS4Pro too.

I think anyone with a decent PC should have a great time with it but I don't know about Deck. Maybe people can settle on a smooth 40fps with bells n whistles. That sounds like a win win.
 

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Well D3 publisher Samurai Maiden english localization is already adapted to weak western minds.
Seems west fear joshi kousei term. Every JK reference is axed from english subs.
Well JK still does have very sexual stuff related to it.
As others online have already mentioned, it seems like the Steam Deck is pretty much the next Sony Handheld until either Sony feels like they could another system and by then the Steam Deck V2 will likely be announced.

I find it funny looking back how there were people said that it would share the steam fate as Steam Machines and well seeing how AAA devs are advertising is really something.
The MCU ruined cinema and had a net negative impact on a lot of peoples relationship to media.

spidey is cool tho, he's one of the good ones
From what I remember it's because of this that some people were "put off" by the new Batman movie, I guess they were expecting MCU style of comedy for some reason and we're surprised by what the movie was since MCU movie are not like that.
 
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I think sexual relation between servants and master is essential for understand character’s behavior, and specifically heaven’s feel route without sakura’s constant violation by her adoption family has no sense, without this it’s hard to understand the way she interacts with Emiya.
Hmm, I don't know. I think that the H-scenes in F/SN feels a little forced. I mean, sure, that's the in-universe explanation for "mana transfer" and it has to flow from one end to another ( :flare_lmao: ), but I chalked it up to just Nasu doing Nasu things, I suppose. If the characters need to hook up, just let them hook up without some contrived reasoning. But then again, Shirou is a horny teenager, after all, at least that's how I see what Nasu was trying to convey. And as you said, The Matou's Family Secret is the reason for Sakura's mannerism and behaviour.

I'll have to see how they tackled the subject in the Heaven's Feel movie trilogy, though, since I haven't seen it myself after all these years.
 
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Why does it bother you that things exist? Just don't play or watch any Marvel stuff? If I had a magic wish to remove something from this world, there's plenty of vile and wretched things I'd rather remove from this world than something as harmless as a brand of comic book IPs
It doesn't bother me that it exists, it bothers me what doesn't because of it.
We could be getting xcom3 and not whatever firaxis is doing right now.
 

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Sadly it most likely won't run 60fps. The ps4 vanilla version was a choppy 30 from what I remember. Even with lower rez I think Deck will have a rough time with it.
The game isn't choppy on PS4, what are you talking about?
 
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It doesn't bother me that it exists, it bothers me what doesn't because of it.
We could be getting xcom3 and not whatever firaxis is doing right now.
ultimately thats just baseless hypothesis and standard " speculative fallacy " .... if you look what firaxis did before it ...its obvious xcom3 is coming sooner rathen than later and obvious that Chimera Squad was testing ground for quite a bunch of things to come.. similarly as here with Midnight sons they are testing bunch of things too.
 
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Great news for some of you



Although I am not too familiar with Komodo, it says Valve has worked with them for years.

I was expecting for them to use Degicia again.

It says they are going to make an effort to have a big both at TGS (TGS is 5 days from what I remember, the first 3 being more corporate and stuff with the last 2 days being open to the public, so your average Joe (or Shuhei) that can go to TGS can test the device for themselves to see if they would want it.


The size seems to be one of the biggest concerns that people in general have hards twords it, so this might make it an easier sell for some people.



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I'll add more details later.


From what I saw the Steam Deck TM was still under review in Japan and was not granted to Valve yet, they applied about a year ago for the TM.


So as of now the Steam Deck is currently in a state where they can make a lot more and start expanding into regions where it could have a big impact.


Who knows maybe after TGS you will see dev interviews in 4Gamers yearly Q&A with devs that asking about what they are looking forward to. You might see a few of them mention the Steam Deck after they try it out themselves.



As of now there is an official stable update to help with SEA languages on a keyboard so that should help and make it easier to use the device.

Maybe they will at least have a prototype dock that they will show at the event as well.



So far from the Japanese devs that I have heard talk about using one, they were pretty impressed with the games that could run on it. There was mention about the size and how it might not be ideal to take to the office with you because of the size of it and charging it.



I was expecting for it to at least be sold in some physical stores in Japan but it could just be that Komodo doesn't have any partnership lined up right now. Degicia did have partnerships lined up and that how they were able to get Valve Index and accs. Sold in physical stores, with display/demo units. Maybe that will change, but I'm guessing that Degicia would only be able to over Japan will Komodo would be able to cover a bigger portion of SEA compared to them.




Thank you for your time reading this.

As I have mentioned a lot in the past a look a lot into Japanese Steam/PC news but I don't often time share my findings about some of that stuff on here because I think it's rather niche and not that many are interested in it, but the more important stuff usually gets shared by one of you guys either a few hours later or a few days later
 

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From what I remember it's because of this that some people were "put off" by the new Batman movie, I guess they were expecting MCU style of comedy for some reason and we're surprised by what the movie was since MCU movie are not like that.
For my taste, that new Batman movie was pretty great. It was a good Batman movie. That's all it needed to be.
 

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The markup seems rather high, but then again, PC parts has always been obscenely priced over there.



(image via Derrick01 , thanks!)
Actually it's just that the Yen has fallen in price. What you are seeing are less than $100 more than what you would pay in the US

~¥100,000 is about $750USD.

Steam Deck is $650 USD as the most expensive price point and depending on where you are you still have to pay sales Tax. For me it was about $50 USD in California so my grand total was just over $700USD.

With Japan, these prices includes sales tax, other wise they would all be cheaper.


So this does suck because as I have already seen, you have this question of why buy a Steam Deck since you can buy 2 Switches for the same price In Japan or you could just buy a more powerful PS5 for less than that.






More news about the Steam Deck in Japan.

Here is the article


The author of it also owns a Steam Deck and he seems to like his.


A couple of things, this Article confirms that the Komodo partnership in Japan, it also confirms the TGS thing. It looks like the interview and the information from it, is from mid to late June 2022.

Eric Peterson (former employee of Nintendo of America) will himself be at TGS to show the Steam Deck to people at the event.



The article also mentions how even far back as 2012/13 (when they were designed the Steam Controller that they were thinking of a Steam portable machine but the tech was just not there) this would possibly also explain the "Steam Boy" (SmachZ) and the resemblance, seeing how that thing was taking some keys from the Steam Controller and the Steam Controller did have some Steam Portable in it's early DNA.



It also seems like the main reason for Portal on Switch is because of the Steam Deck, well swing how we are updating the game for Steam Deck, we might as well port it to Switch. I'm guessing that might also include Half Life 2 at some point.


They also mention how they might make different sized Steam Decks, so I guess think of the OG Xbox Duke and the Xbox S controller that Japan got.


I feel like compared to some of the other Steam Deck interviews this one has some extra information that those other ones didn't have, seeing how they interviewed 4 different people that they didn't interview for those IGN preview videos.

So close yet so far :cryblob:




Iirc Komodo is the rebranded name of Degica Games so you are not wrong haha

That makes sense, I remember hearing something about that,

Also I tried to get some more information but it seems that that Steam Page was seeing very heavy traffic even after 1 hour with people placing pre-order.


Also it looks like with this SEA you don't even need to place a deposit or anything, you just have to sign up and that's all
 

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The game isn't choppy on PS4, what are you talking about?
Maybe not choppy but it was definitely not a locked 30 throughout. Felt very sluggish playing it and some parts had bad input lag too. The one late boss fight sequence area/zones were rough. I wouldn't have finished it on PS4 if it wasn't fun to play. I would be surprised if Deck could do constant 60 without sacrificing a lot. Will be fun to see how it performs regardless.
 
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Steam Deck is $650 USD as the most expensive price point and depending on where you are you still have to pay sales Tax. For me it was about $50 USD in California so my grand total was just over $700USD.
Sales tax may not be avoidable but ~$100 markup is still a lot of money. I shudder to think what our local distributor (most likely EBGames) will charge us for SD once it come to our region.

Just to give you an idea, these same cunts slapped $50 markup on Steam Controllers in the past, and a $500 worth of markup on a Valve Index. And that's after USD → AUD conversion.
 
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Firts of all, thanks for all the amazing words as always, I'm a bit silent as I enjoy my summer holidays and speaking of summer holidays

IT'S HAPPENING!!!

IT'S HAPPENING x2
 

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Aren't people bored of marvel stuff yet? Can someone let me out of this timeline please?
Only when Ubisoft stop making open world games


Few months ago I got a sealed copy of original PC collector’s Big Box fate hollow atarxia (opposite to stay night never been a fan of the sequel). Gonna give it another try this weekend on Deck with uncensored patch.
PS: stay night copy is sealed too : P
That’s is sweet, where did you get it if you don’t mind my asking?
 
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ultimately thats just baseless hypothesis and standard " speculative fallacy "
Even if it's just speculative and hypothetical, all that means is that we have no way of quantifying what the opportunity cost was. But there absolutely was one because a studio can only be working on one thing at a time, so, what does and doesn't get made is a bit of a zero sum situation. Like I wonder what would have happened if Square Enix hadn't got the Avengers license and put Eidos Montreal on it. They might have gotten to work on the sequel to Deus Ex Mankind Divided. We have no way of knowing whether that would happen, but what we do know that they ended up working on a piece of shit instead.

But there are real, tangible costs as well. Aside from a few exceptions, Marvel hasn't really taken off in gaming, but they are absolutely dominant in the film industry. And that's where Disney wields Marvel as a weapon. There was news just a couple of weeks ago about how the folks who work on the CGI for their movies are being worked to the bone and developing physical and mental health issues because of Disney's demands. And no studio in that industry can afford to say no to them because getting blacklisted can sink their business. Likewise, it's documented that Disney bullies movie theatre owners to provide better cuts and preferential treatment to their movies and nobody can say no to them because getting cut off from Marvel movies will, again, sink their business. So yeah, there are real costs to this that just can't be enumerated in dollars. There's also an industry wide shift in the movies that do and don't get made (although that's a function of the shifting business that includes the rise of streaming, the fall of dvd after sales and other factors) but the Marvel movies also contribute to that. It feels like you have to be a James Cameron or Christopher Nolan to get a high budget, non comic book blockbuster greenlit these days (maybe that was always the case). And smaller, mid budget movies have mostly disappeared from theatres and would have been gone altogether if it wasn't for services like Netflix propping them up.

And a thought for the "just let them exist, you don't have to play them" crew. What are your thoughts about Diablo Immortal? Gross, predatory monetization right? But you're not falling for it and you're not the arbiter of someone else's decisions or well being so there's no reason to be negative about it. Maybe you're worried that when, not if, Immortal succeeds, that sort of monetization will find it's way to Diablo 4 or more generally in other games from other publishers. But that's just speculative and hypothetical, right? Except it's not. You know how this story goes. We started with horse armor and ended up with lootboxes, online passes, season passes, battle passes, double xp boosts, standard/deluxe/ultimate/special editions, games launching with 93 totally optional dlcs on day and what not. The effects of industry choices are hypothetical until they're not.

But let's take a less dramatic example. Remember 15 years ago when Gear of War took off and the industry spent the next 5 years making brown third person shooters with absurdly out of place chest high cover walls? I'm sure a lot of people got tired of that era. Then Call of Duty took off and the industry spent the next 5 years trying to emulate that success? I'm dead sure people (even on this forum) still dislike Call of Duty for the effect it had on the industry. Remember when Raven made some decent single player shooters (I enjoyed Singularity and Wolf 2009)? I'm sure there are people today who wonder what could have been if they hadn't become a cog in the Call of Duty factory.

The point here is that it's okay to dislike industry trends, to wish things were different and maybe speculate on what could have been if things hadn't turned out the way they did or seem to be going. If Marvel didn't have the grip it seems to have on pop culture right now. It's not that I hate Marvel or that I have anything against people who enjoy Marvel stuff. I've enjoyed their stuff too over the years. But yeah, I would have selfishly preferred the conclusion to the Deus Ex trilogy over the Avengers game that came out.
 
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The MCU ruined cinema and had a net negative impact on a lot of peoples relationship to media.
Lol, sorry Hektor, I like you, but this is a bunch of pretentious bullshit and you know it. Marvel is just the convenient scapegoat for film bros and boomers not being able to deal with the fact that the audience's viewing habits have changed.
 

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Lol, sorry Hektor, I like you, but this is a bunch of pretentious bullshit and you know it. Marvel is just the convenient scapegoat for film bros and boomers not being able to deal with the fact that the audience's viewing habits have changed.
Peoples viewing habits haven't magically changed just because, they have been formed to change in order to line Disneys Pockets.

While almost all modern Kulturindustry will deliberatey exploit and push "spoilerculture", "fear of missing out" and even ideas of "Diversity and Representation" to get people to have a toxic-obsessive relationship with media that do more harm to them than good, Marvel - or rather the MCU - has in particular been at the forefront of this with the whole "everything is connected"-garbaggio and the post-credit and post-post-credit segments, that are considered more important to some obsessive fans than the 120 minute long movie before them.

The fact that recently a lot of Marvel fans complained that "it feels pointless" to watch Marvel movies if there isn't some sort of "greater conclusion" being build towards to at the moment, should be evidence enough.

And this is all im gonna say about it, no offense to you, but as i have said in the past, i don't feel like wasting my time arguing on the internet anymore, i just felt like explaining my position to you so it's more than a shitpost.
 

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That’s is sweet, where did you get it if you don’t mind my asking?
Oh, nothing special, I bought them on mercari (Japan), at the right time.
If you search for some niche stuff there’re quite good items. I’m looking for some other two stay night and type moon related products.

IT'S HAPPENING!!!
Cannot believe this will get Steam release DAY ONE!. This will look pretty nice on Deck.
I hope Miss Kobayashi’s Dragon gets steam release too.
 

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Peoples viewing habits haven't magically changed just because, they have been formed to change in order to line Disneys Pockets.

While almost all modern Kulturindustry will deliberatey exploit and push "spoilerculture", "fear of missing out" and even ideas of "Diversity and Representation" to get people to have a toxic-obsessive relationship with media that do more harm to them than good, Marvel - or rather the MCU - has in particular been at the forefront of this with the whole "everything is connected"-garbaggio and the post-credit and post-post-credit segments, that are considered more important to some obsessive fans than the 120 minute long movie before them.

The fact that recently a lot of Marvel fans complained that "it feels pointless" to watch Marvel movies if there isn't some sort of "greater conclusion" being build towards to at the moment, should be evidence enough.

And this is all im gonna say about it, no offense to you, but as i have said in the past, i don't feel like wasting my time arguing on the internet anymore, i just felt like explaining my position to you so it's more than a shitpost.
I appreciate the concerns you express here, but I think this is confusing cause and effect. The Marvel films are tapping into changes in our modern culture. The interconnectedness comes from how social media trains people to think about how one things connects to others, long chains of posts, where the intertextuality is expected to be the message. The Marvel films under Feige have just understood better than anyone else how to translate the inherently serial comic book stories, which each issue giving you some hints about how it connects to the next one and building up some great threat or something, into the medium of film and now TV. And so far they have been incredibly successful in building, and more importantly, retaining an audience over more than a decade now.
If anything, it's remarkable how they managed to translate things that were just twenty years earlier seen as super niche into mass media. Thor was literally seen as a joke. And now we are getting a second Ant Man film. Regardless of what one thinks about comics, it's kind of crazy how they keep getting audiences interested in more and more niche Marvel IPs.


I don't understand what you mean here with "diversity and representation", though. As in, it's a pretty good thing how especially recent Marvel films and shows have featured heroes who aren't just white and male.
 
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I appreciate the concerns you express here, but I think this is confusing cause and effect. The Marvel films are tapping into changes in our modern culture. The interconnectedness comes from how social media trains people to think about how one things connects to others, long chains of posts, where the intertextuality is expected to be the message. The Marvel films under Feige have just understood better than anyone else how to translate the inherently serial comic book stories, which each issue giving you some hints about how it connects to the next one and building up some great threat or something, into the medium of film and now TV. And so far they have been incredibly successful in building, and more importantly, retaining an audience over more than a decade now.
If anything, it's remarkable how they managed to translate things that were just twenty years earlier seen as super niche into mass media. Thor was literally seen as a joke. And now we are getting a second Ant Man film. Regardless of what one thinks about comics, it's kind of crazy how they keep getting audiences interested in more and more niche Marvel IPs.


I don't understand what you mean here with "diversity and representation", though. As in, it's a pretty good thing how especially recent Marvel films and shows have featured heroes who aren't just white and male.
Diversity and Representation is often a mere marketing gimmick, like how disney will talk about this new movie having their first openly gay character for the last 20 movies in a row, and how the gayness is then an ambigious line of dialogue that's easily removed for localization in other markets.
And much more generally, i find the whole increasing race-yifictation of media and culture as such worrysome at best.
I don't wanna dive deep because it's beside my original point anyways, but when i see people talking about how "this movie isn't for you because you're not egyptian", "this movie is for black people", "you shouldn't critizise this movie if you're not the same minority as the protagonist", i find that we take huge, worrysome steps away from the universality of the human experience and every closer to a form of cultural apartheid, but maybe that's just me being forced to witness specific online bubbles too much.

And to be clear, i'm very much in favor of more 'diverse' actors and culture displayed in movies, but it should be cause for an increasing unification of the people, not an increasing divergence thereof.
 
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Peoples viewing habits haven't magically changed just because, they have been formed to change in order to line Disneys Pockets.

While almost all modern Kulturindustry will deliberatey exploit and push "spoilerculture", "fear of missing out" and even ideas of "Diversity and Representation" to get people to have a toxic-obsessive relationship with media that do more harm to them than good, Marvel - or rather the MCU - has in particular been at the forefront of this with the whole "everything is connected"-garbaggio and the post-credit and post-post-credit segments, that are considered more important to some obsessive fans than the 120 minute long movie before them.

The fact that recently a lot of Marvel fans complained that "it feels pointless" to watch Marvel movies if there isn't some sort of "greater conclusion" being build towards to at the moment, should be evidence enough.

And this is all im gonna say about it, no offense to you, but as i have said in the past, i don't feel like wasting my time arguing on the internet anymore, i just felt like explaining my position to you so it's more than a shitpost.
The only thing Marvel Studios did was transfer the comic medium to film form. The connected universe, cameos and crossovers are all important elements of the medium being adapted. So as I said, complete bullshit from out-of-touch pseudointellectuals who don't understand the art form, don't want to accept that going to the cinema is not the event it was 30 years ago and lash out at Marvel because it makes successful movies.

The above is not meant for you specifically, it's a general comment on the total dumpster fire that is modern film discourse.
 
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Diversity and Representation is often a mere marketing gimmick, like how disney will talk about this new movie having their first openly gay character for the last 20 movies in a row, and how the gayness is then an ambigious line of dialogue that's easily removed for localization in other markets.
And much more generally, i find the whole increasing race-yifictation of media and culture as such worrysome at best.
I don't wanna dive deep because it's beside my original point anyways, but when i see people talking about how "this movie isn't for you because you're not egyptian", "this movie is for black people", "you shouldn't critizise this movie if you're not the same minority as the protagonist", i find that we take huge, worrysome steps away from the universality of the human experience and every closer to a form of cultural apartheid, but maybe that's just me being forced to witness specific online bubbles too much.

And to be clear, i'm very much in favor of more 'diverse' actors and culture displayed in movies, but it should be cause for an increasing unification of the people, not an increasing divergence thereof.
This thing you point out here, "token inclusion" of gay or lesbian characters and easily removed for certain markets, is something I really dislike too. It reeks of cowardice. Just have the characters openly express who they are, through words and actions, and even intimacy. That's been something that Disney has been very widely criticised for and continues to get flack.

As for inclusion, I am not sure I can really speak about it, as I don't feel it relates to me. I have no problem finding media with people who look like me, and thus it's also not something "special" to me to see that. I also don't live in a society where I feel in any way marginalised. Both of those things, however, can be seen as privileges, due to where I was born and the circumstances of my life.
As such, I cannot speak for people who do crave representation, and we can see with Black Panther that it had a huge importance on a lot of black Americans, to finally see a film with a fictional hero and civilisation that treats blackness and Africa as its own thing, not some projection of Western colonialist ideas.
 

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Sales tax may not be avoidable but ~$100 markup is still a lot of money. I shudder to think what our local distributor (most likely EBGames) will charge us for SD once it come to our region.

Just to give you an idea, these same cunts slapped $50 markup on Steam Controllers in the past, and a $500 worth of markup on a Valve Index. And that's after USD → AUD conversion.
also, the Japanese customers aren't paid in Dollars. So, it is irrelevant that the Yen has fallen against the Dollar for a consumer, it still costs way more than what a US customer would pay.
Exchange rates only matter for companies, not the consumer.
 
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This thing you point out here, "token inclusion" of gay or lesbian characters and easily removed for certain markets, is something I really dislike too. It reeks of cowardice. Just have the characters openly express who they are, through words and actions, and even intimacy. That's been something that Disney has been very widely criticised for and continues to get flack.
I do wonder if they will just not bother putting notably gay Marvel characters into the MCU as time goes on. I guess we'll know if Iceman is absent from the X-men(whenever it finally happens).

I was surprised in MOM when they showed America Chavez's mothers, but it also was probably easy for them to edit out.

I started Subnautica and I have no fucking idea what I'm supposed to do.
I reeeeaallly want to play Subnautica... but I also hate scary videogames! 😭
 
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