Community MetaSteam | August 2023 - IT'S MECHA TIME!

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Goddamn do I love PC gaming right now even more.

Jim ryan's really testing just how far brand name will take him since he took over. I think he wants to be fired and despite his best efforts nothing he does tanks the brand.
 

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Jim ryan's really testing just how far brand name will take him since he took over. I think he wants to be fired and despite his best efforts nothing he does tanks the brand.
It's one of those weird things where I actually think Sony bosses sitting in Japan don't care as long as it makes money. The Sony juggernaut has so many other levers that gaming is just an afterthought it seems like at times.
 
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What's up with mechanical keyboards? Saw lots of cheap ones on amazon, like 50 euro, and they look exactly like the ones that used to cost like couple hundred just few years ago...
 

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What's up with mechanical keyboards? Saw lots of cheap ones on amazon, like 50 euro, and they look exactly like the ones that used to cost like couple hundred just few years ago...
They just aren't that expensive to build, and no longer niche.
The niche high-end market is moving on to even more obscure features (of even more doubtful relevance, but which are admittedly cool), like configurable hall effect switches.

What made me happy this year is that a company finally built a "normal" ergonomic mechanical keyboard at a relatively OK price (given the general pricing of more specialized keyboards).
I actually changed my keyboard at home for the first time in 15 years as a result of that (Was using a gen 2 Microsoft Natural Keyboard)
 

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As far as mechanical keyboards go, my girlfriend and I just bought a Ducky One each and we both love them.

Cost about £100 a pop, and in my view is worth every penny. Fucking sucks when I have to go into the office and use the terrible membrame HP keyboards on every desk.
 

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I might go for one around 50-70, seems reasonable quality and price.

how are the brands like epomaker, magic refiner, yindiao, k3? Those are the ones I see on Amazon being pretty cheap.
 

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As far as mechanical keyboards go, my girlfriend and I just bought a Ducky One each and we both love them.

Cost about £100 a pop, and in my view is worth every penny. Fucking sucks when I have to go into the office and use the terrible membrame HP keyboards on every desk.
I was so sick of the office membrane keyboard that I started taking there a clicky Logitech MX Mechanical from their master series. Not the best (I don't like how low the profile is) but it's so much better than what I had there. And more importantly, I was given it for free.
 

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I might go for one around 50-70, seems reasonable quality and price.

how are the brands like epomaker, magic refiner, yindiao, k3? Those are the ones I see on Amazon being pretty cheap.
I'd recommend Keychron if you want something cheap and quality. Their K Pro series is pretty great, and V and Q are also there if you want something customisable but a bit more expensive.

70 is a bit too cheap, though. You should look at around 100.

They just aren't that expensive to build, and no longer niche.
The niche high-end market is moving on to even more obscure features (of even more doubtful relevance, but which are admittedly cool), like configurable hall effect switches.

What made me happy this year is that a company finally built a "normal" ergonomic mechanical keyboard at a relatively OK price (given the general pricing of more specialized keyboards).
I actually changed my keyboard at home for the first time in 15 years as a result of that (Was using a gen 2 Microsoft Natural Keyboard)
Speaking of, Keychron also something in that direction too. This one also allows you to put in different switches:

It's not low profile, though
 
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What's up with mechanical keyboards? Saw lots of cheap ones on amazon, like 50 euro, and they look exactly like the ones that used to cost like couple hundred just few years ago...
Membrane mechanicals :smart-thinking-blob:
(and yes, those actually exist)
 
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Now that I look at it, Durante 's keyboard looks like a more comfortable ergonomic version of the Logitech one I use at work.
 

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They just aren't that expensive to build, and no longer niche.
The niche high-end market is moving on to even more obscure features (of even more doubtful relevance, but which are admittedly cool), like configurable hall effect switches.

What made me happy this year is that a company finally built a "normal" ergonomic mechanical keyboard at a relatively OK price (given the general pricing of more specialized keyboards).
I actually changed my keyboard at home for the first time in 15 years as a result of that (Was using a gen 2 Microsoft Natural Keyboard)
Oh, this looks neat! Question from a total noob in this area: do the switch types come down to just preference or are there some pros and cons (other than the noise)?
 

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Oh, this looks neat! Question from a total noob in this area: do the switch types come down to just preference or are there some pros and cons (other than the noise)?
Actuation force. Depending on what you want to use it for or how you type you might like some switches better than others.

E.g. I like the switches that requires stronger key strokes. Prevents me from at least some mistyping errors. Some people get tired with those switches so they prefer lighter ones.
 
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Speaking of, Keychron also something in that direction too. This one also allows you to put in different switches:
That's already too non-standard for me. I'm never going to learn a new layout of the right hand function key block (the one with del, pos1, etc.) at this point ;)

There were ergonomic mechanical keyboards on the market for many years now, but they all went a bit too far (for me personally) away from a standard layout. That's why I was so happy that Perixx (never heard of the company before that) made one that basically has the same layout that the Microsoft ergonomic keyboard introduced 2 decades ago and which I have been using both at home and at work since then, just mechanical -- and I was positively surprised at the price.

Oh, this looks neat! Question from a total noob in this area: do the switch types come down to just preference or are there some pros and cons (other than the noise)?
The biggest thing (for me at least as someone who's really not a mechanical keyboard enthusiast) is really the noise <-> feedback tradeoff. I use blue switches at home, but I'd never do that in the office since it would just annoy other people.
 
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What's up with mechanical keyboards? Saw lots of cheap ones on amazon, like 50 euro, and they look exactly like the ones that used to cost like couple hundred just few years ago...
Cherry switches patent expired some time ago. Now the market have many cheaper and arguably better switches. (Kailh, Gateron, Jwick, Outemu to name a few). And the Taiwan/Chinese tech market have create many affordable and good mechanical keyboards over the years.

Maybe it's a regional thing, but here, for 50 euros you'd expect a hot swappable switches, 3 in 1 connection (bluetooth/2,4 Ghz/type c wired) and gateron switches at the minimum for a mechanical keyboard.
 
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That's already too non-standard for me. I'm never going to learn a new layout of the right hand function key block (the one with del, pos1, etc.) at this point ;)

There were ergonomic mechanical keyboards on the market for many years now, but they all went a bit too far (for me personally) away from a standard layout. That's why I was so happy that Perixx (never heard of the company before that) made one that basically has the same layout that the Microsoft ergonomic keyboard introduced 2 decades ago and which I have been using both at home and at work since then, just mechanical -- and I was positively surprised at the price.
Well, I personally always found the normal layouts, even TKL to be a bit bad ergonomically, as I wanted to minimise the space between my default position on the keyboard to the mouse. So 75% layout is perfect for me, and I think being open to experimenting with new things (within reason) is generally a good property in life. At worst you just return to what you like already, and at best you discover something that's actually better for you.
 

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It's one of those weird things where I actually think Sony bosses sitting in Japan don't care as long as it makes money. The Sony juggernaut has so many other levers that gaming is just an afterthought it seems like at times.
I feel like yes and no, they do have a lot of things and if they do have to be worried about anything right now, it might be with Columbia and the writers strike. I don't think Columbia typically makes Sony a lot of money. They do have both Across the Spider verse and Gran Turismo movie. But they might not really have anything else for next year right? Even beyond the spider verse was delayed.


cursing Nvidia's prices with the rest of us.
As far as I'm aware they already are complaining about the price of the new Nvidia cards (since PC stuff on average can cost from $50-$500 more in Japan than other parts of the world. Because of import cost.
 
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I'm currently playing through Mafia 3 Definitive edition and quite enjoying it.

That said, the DLC Faster Baby sucks.
The main game isn't that buggy as I've heard, but parts of the DLC barely work.
Cutscenes not loading, getting stuck in endless loading loops, cars losing speed during scripted moments, friendly NPC car being flipped over without reason, police chases that bug out and don't end.

I finally managed to finish the DLC and i won't ever return to that area of the map.
 

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Replaying FF7R is getting me hyped for Rebirth. They have a solid foundation to build upon and considering Rebirth will contain a big chunk of the original game it's pretty exciting to think about all the places we'll visit and the major story beats we'll see.

I'm also incredibly hyped for P3R.
Have you guys seen the specs btw? Well, I guess there's really no reason for it to be more demanding than P5 which was originally a PS3 game. Still a bit surprised by the low requirements.
 
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Like this one, seems pretty good for the price right?

EPOMAKER SKYLOONG GK75 75% Clavier Mécanique Filaire avec Bouton, Support Lite Gasket-Like Clavier de Jeu Programmable et Interchangeable à Chaud pour Win/Mac/Gamers (Gateron Optical Black) Amazon.fr
Can’t comment on that one but I have a GK68 and I’m pretty happy with it (I’ve had it for like 2 years now). Only issue is their software, doesn’t detect the keyboard half of the time for some reason.
 
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Keychron didn't have a keyboard for my very specific specs (at least I didn't find it) last time I checked like, 6 months ago or something, but yesterday I looked at their stuff again as it came up on a discord server and they now have one that's extremely close. Maybe the only thing I would want to change is the built in rechargeable battery, but oh well. No idea if the only available switches are what I would want though, and it's a moot point right now anyways since I don't have the money at the moment. But it's something I've now bookmarked, so maybe once my budget has some room. Maybe at some point I'll get some kind of switch test kit or whatever those are called.

Though wibble was saying that his keychron wakes up really slowly in wireless mode and he can basically type a word or two before anything starts to register. So, that doesn't sound great.
 
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Gave in and pre-ordered the Premium Edition of Starfield. I'm not even particularly hyped for the game. It just happens that early access starts on the same day as my vacations and Bethesda RPGs are basically the perfect games for when you've got 10 days to go into no-life mode. It being a space sci-fi game does make it significantly more appealing to me than TES and Fallout, though. Ideally my vacations would've coincided with Phantom Liberty's release but what can you do....

Everyone is complaining about October but September the the insanely stacked month for me. Starfield this week, MK1 two weeks later and Phantom Liberty two weeks after that. Even if there was anything for me in October, these three alone should keep me busy all the way into November lol.
 

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I got this month's check and the first thing I did was buy Starfield Standard Edition, Metal Gear Solid Master Collection, Lies of P, Trepang2, Psychonauts 2, and Mafia Trilogy, like the responsible adult I am lmao.

I'm excited for Starfield, but I'm not 82$ excited lol. I don't mind playing on the 6th. I was surprised that Fanatical gave me the key right away, normally I have to wait until next to the launch day to access the pre-order key
 

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Replaying FF7R is getting me hyped for Rebirth. They have a solid foundation to build upon and considering Rebirth will contain a big chunk of the original game it's pretty exciting to think about all the places we'll visit and the major story beats we'll see.

I'm also incredibly hyped for P3R.
Have you guys seen the specs btw? Well, I guess there's really no reason for it to be more demanding than P5 which was originally a PS3 game. Still a bit surprised by the low requirements.
Trying not to get excited for FFVII Rebirth, since the ink has likely already dried on an EGS exclusivity deal. We won’t be seeing this one on Steam for at least a year after the PS5 release, possibly longer.

As for P3R, I’m glad it has the requirements it does. The game looks amazing and I think it’s gonna look great on Steam Deck too!
 

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This is interesting. This game is a free to play NFL game with a NFT marketplace, but the marketplace is only available through the EGS version.

There are several crypto games exploiting a loophole where the crypto elements are removed on the Steam version.

Champions Ascension and The Bornless are two games in development that have sold NFTs to fans and were recently added to Steam. But representatives for these games told Decrypt that their respective planned releases follow Steam’s rules.

“The game won't be exchanging NFTs or cryptocurrencies on the platform,” Payton Kaleiwahea, Marketing and Community Director for Champions Ascension developer Plai Labs, told Decrypt in a message. “It will be disabled, respecting the Terms of Service. If players want those elements, they will have to go to our website.”

But players who buy items as NFTs will still be able to use them in the game, with the external site functioning effectively as a workaround. In other words, they can’t interact with NFTs via Steam, but they can acquire NFT items and manage them via an external portal, ultimately making them available in the Steam version of the game.
Here are some of those "bangers".


 
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