Community MetaSteam | December 2018 - We got 99 problems, but 76 ain't one
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I wonder if there is a documentary or an article covering the things Tripwire did during KF2 development because it was a huge mess. Imagine my interest in Maneater
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I'm starting to worry about the lack of info regarding this game. No updates since August. I can only hope they've been hard at work and delaying any updates so that they can surprise us with big news eventually?
I guess I'm getting a little worried cuz they did say Full Release would be Q1 2019. We're really close...
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the gif mentions backers, so i'm guessing it was kickstarted? so they stopped posting backer updates or something?
yeah, the last update seems to be August from what I can tell.
In the comments some people say they get e-mail updates every other month, but it seems like spam filter or other such troubles could be blocking those e-mails for many other people.
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I was a backer, and I receive those emails.In the comments some people say they get e-mail updates every other month, but it seems like spam filter or other such troubles could be blocking those e-mails for many other people.
I can't tell you exactly when I got the last one, since I'm not at home, but it was probably last month or so.
Instead of using Kickstarter updates, most of their updates come from direct email updates.
From what I recall, the game is coming along fine, and they have been showing new enemies.
No, supposedly the point of the store was to compete with Steam and be more developer-friendly. Currently it's not really competing being exclusivity != competing, but almost all of the currently exclusive games have either said they'd be available other places (Steam) "later" or 12 months or "sometime". I think Satisfactory is one that has explicitly stated they won't be on Steam?
There's no contract I have seen that Epic has where the 3rd party devs can't go elsewhere, it's just really suspect and bad for consumers that all these exclusives happened and a number dumped Steam in the process.
If the only edge your store has over another store is exclusives, that doesn't encourage the other store to compete except with exclusives of their own. Currently, Steam also has no mandate that anyone on Steam has to remain exclusive (quite the opposite with the key generation), but if that's the only kind of "competition" Epic offers that could change.
Game's title is Blasphemous.
Oh, that's great to hear! Do you think they are still on track for Q1 2019 though?
Lets be honest here even without the epic store they would still not use the steamworks api, devs time and time again have demonstrated that they want to control everything.
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I'll be honest: I only gave the last updates a quick look.
But, from what I recall and seen, if the game is not Q1 2019, it should be Q2 2019.
When I arrive home, I'll try to copy and paste that last update, and I'll send it to you through PM.
Year 4 Pass for R6 Siege is now live on store.
Indie game development isn't smooth sailing for everyone. Some will take longer time due to personal obligations and maybe even reworking elements.
As a rule of thumb, the prettier the indie game being developed, assume the longer it will take til release.
As a rule of thumb, the prettier the indie game being developed, assume the longer it will take til release.
Yet another game for the ignore list. I won't buy games that go this route, even if they end up coming to Steam 365 days later.
So, McPixel must have taken five minutes.
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After playing on my 24" / 1080p / 144hz monitor, it's become normal again. I don't miss playing on my 4K television. I'm content.
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Well, my question with the tweet was if games would be resold on other stores to be activated on EGL, something I really don't think they will be which makes his answer weird? I guess they will be sold on other storefronts after a year, but not as EGL keys. Time will tell though.
And I'm certain that Satisfactory is also a year exclusive, only that Coffee Stain didn't know if they were allowed to tell for how long it would be exclusive. We'll hear more in some days when they'll have their qna.
Humble just suspended my account immediately after making a purchase. I used the $5 coupon I received after the Call of Cthulu price mistake was revoked. I used PayPal for checkout. No idea why or how this happened, but I guess be careful when using your coupon if you have the same one.
The only possible thing I can think of is that my PayPal e-mail is different from my Humble e-mail, but I have used this before.
I'm guessing you're waiting on a response from Humble Support? They're usually pretty good so hopefully you'll get things fixed.
Just to be clear I have contacted support via their website and Twitter. I will update when I hear back from them, I just wanted to warn people because I know others have gotten that Call of Cthulhu price mistake coupon.
Looking better and better if this is true
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Ok, I have no problems with multiple stores, but they need to at least have a decent automated refund system.
I guess this can be removed from the 'feature list' for the Epic Games Store, since the refunds don't actually work as advertised. People were already annoyed by the 2 refunds + 1 per year system (rightfully so) but this is not a good look.
So basically they refunded only after taking things to social media, such competition, right.
Honestly, at this point I'm much more annoyed at the dishonesty involved around this whole store launch, than buying up the exclusives (though I still dislike this practice).
I haven't heard any noise about devs being able to get keys for Epic store, so my assumption is that they cannot (is there even a key entry thing there right now? I thought there might be for Fortnite promos or something). I thought that Tweet was more a reference to whether devs could go to Steam / GoG / Itch as well, which barring any official or under-the-table exclusivity deals (which it feels like there were) they would be able to.
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I don't want to post more crap about the Epic Games store, since I have no desire to use it, nor support the developers who will be releasing exclusively on the platform.
But, about the later, and since I've read comments by people who are under the assumption that Hades will only be exclusive to Epic's store for a short period, while it's in Early Access, Greg Kasavin just confirmed to Kotaku that the game will be exclusive for at least a year and a half:
https://kotaku.com/epics-game-store-is-already-locking-down-exclusives-1830997999
Oh, and I now have no doubts that Epic is paying for some coverage. PCGamer on twitter posted 7 tweets about Epic, their store, or their games, just today.
And on Kotaku, no only are they running publicity for Epic, and featuring several articles about them, the store, and their games, they also post lovely, unbiased, journalistic coverage like this quote from the article above:
«For now, some fans aren’t taking these announcements incredibly well, given that Steam has been their one-stop PC gaming shop for years, and they’ve got communities and libraries of hundreds of un-played sale games there.»
But, about the later, and since I've read comments by people who are under the assumption that Hades will only be exclusive to Epic's store for a short period, while it's in Early Access, Greg Kasavin just confirmed to Kotaku that the game will be exclusive for at least a year and a half:
https://kotaku.com/epics-game-store-is-already-locking-down-exclusives-1830997999
Oh, and I now have no doubts that Epic is paying for some coverage. PCGamer on twitter posted 7 tweets about Epic, their store, or their games, just today.
And on Kotaku, no only are they running publicity for Epic, and featuring several articles about them, the store, and their games, they also post lovely, unbiased, journalistic coverage like this quote from the article above:
«For now, some fans aren’t taking these announcements incredibly well, given that Steam has been their one-stop PC gaming shop for years, and they’ve got communities and libraries of hundreds of un-played sale games there.»
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Yeah, I was saying that in Discord too. The Polygon article and others (like the ones you highlighted) don't feel very "real" to me, they look like paid promotion and that's pretty crappy.
Might wanna uninstall Logitech Options:
1663 - logitech: "Options" Craft WebSocket server has no authentication - project-zero - Monorail
Can nothing not have exploits anymore?
1663 - logitech: "Options" Craft WebSocket server has no authentication - project-zero - Monorail
Can nothing not have exploits anymore?
Regarding the "unbiased" Epic game store coverage: on one hand I'm not entirely blaming them since getting clicks and engagements is hard these days with plenty of audience keeping their Adblockers up the entire time, but on the other hand, I really dislike that most of these articles has seems to drop all pretenses of journalistic integrity. The Ben Kuchera's article in Polygon is one of the most glaring example.
There have been people saying that a key generation/redemption system is coming (this comment on CSD dev's recent Gamasutra blogpost, for instance). But Steam Spy dude's tweet essentially all-but-confirms what I was thinking - that for all Epic exclusives the only place to get Epic Store games will be the Epic Store. It won't matter if there's a key generation/redemption system in place, since there's a good chance that pubs/devs won't want to use it and lose out on Exposure. And that's going to hurt the PC ecosystem - everyone from GMG to CDKeys is going to have their revenue hurt by these exclusivity moves. :/
Gaming journalists do tend to be more developer-friendly in my experience, so it's not unreasonable that some of this coverage is legitimate, but it also makes it hard to tell. Other publishers / devs / platforms have to really go out of their way to get negative comments from gaming journalists or other game devs, in general. Aside from the devs that just generally complain about everyone, of course
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Am I missing something? Sergey said it's up to the devs where they sell their games - wouldn't that imply that they can sell on those other platforms? The key generation is still a vague fog of unknown, but if they gain that ability, that Tweet would imply they can sell keys wherever, much like Steam. Which would be much better for everyone generally.
Keep in mind, I'm pretty anti-Epic-Store at the moment and I'm still having a hard time reading that Tweet as anything but alright.
Question if if it's key generation like on Steam, or similar to consoles, ios, play and Windows Store where you can only get few keys for use for promotions or testing, but aren't actually allowed to sell keys.
The more stores a game is sold in, the less there is a reason to go to the Epic store, The more stores a game is sold in, the higher likelihood of it being drowned out by other games (similar or not). Which isn't to say it wouldn't be much better for consumers - you're right. But I don't see why, when Exposure is so important to these devs, they would sell an Epic exclusive game on key sites. Because if they're doing that, then why not sell it on Steam, too? And at that point, it's not exclusive to the Epic store.Gaming journalists do tend to be more developer-friendly in my experience, so it's not unreasonable that some of this coverage is legitimate, but it also makes it hard to tell. Other publishers / devs / platforms have to really go out of their way to get negative comments from gaming journalists or other game devs, in general. Aside from the devs that just generally complain about everyone, of course
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Am I missing something? Sergey said it's up to the devs where they sell their games - wouldn't that imply that they can sell on those other platforms? The key generation is still a vague fog of unknown, but if they gain that ability, that Tweet would imply they can sell keys wherever, much like Steam. Which would be much better for everyone generally.
Keep in mind, I'm pretty anti-Epic-Store at the moment and I'm still having a hard time reading that Tweet as anything but alright.
Or, to put it another way - any pub/dev who was going to sell on other stores as well anyway will be fine with selling keys on GMG (assuming it costs nothing to generate, and they can generate a good number of them). But I don't see why even timed-exclusive games would do that. Totally willing to be proven wrong, I just don't think they will.
I mean, generally speaking, there's almost no reason to ever buy a Steam game on Steam - it's pretty easy to find it a few bucks cheaper. But people still do, for a number of reasons. The whole point of "competition" is to compete - if there's no reason to use the Epic Store, that kinda sounds like Epic Store is not actually competitive. If the only reason to use the Epic Store is because that's the only place to buy a particular game, that's still not competition, the same way uPlay and Origin and Battle.net aren't really competing with Steam.
That's why it's extremely suspect that some devs actually removed their games from Steam and declared timed or indefinite exclusivity on the Epic Store. The exposure is certainly part of the equation, but you are missing out on exposure from the Steam users who don't bother to follow gaming news, or from budget-hunters who only buy from Humble / GMG / etc., you're also asking your customers (and any existing fans) to suddenly follow you to a new system with yet another account and many fewer features than already exist elsewhere. Supergiant responded to my first email questioning their announcement but never responded to my second one when I pointed out their hypocritical statements and the perspective I as a fan and customer could face if I didn't live in America or one of the few regions represented so far.
That also doesn't even go into the fact that every one of these exclusives on Epic so far did not actually need exposure - Satisfactory was featured at E3 and has been talked about repeatedly, Hades is from Supergiant who have had 3 hits already, people have been begging for Journey to be ported since it was released and AZBU has sold piles of copies on PC, Ashen was a well known upcoming title, etc. Has there been anyone saying "yea I'm glad this game is going to be only on Epic suddenly!" that didn't sound like a complete tool?
I'm not pissy because I can't buy Hades or Satisfactory, I could use Epic and do that. I'm pissy because I don't have as many options to buy it as I did before and I'm sick and tired of being a consumer and treated like I'm just going to be abused no questions asked. And I'm tired of people letting "slippery slope" actually become a real thing. Loot boxes are not OK. Gacha games are abusive. The utter nonsense that was Battlefront 2 got called out but that is such an extreme example, I don't think we should hold companies to that low of a standard.
Edit: None of this is directed at you, Pixieking, I'm just trying to address some of these points, and points derived from said points, and still-irking me things. I am not under the impression that you are suggesting the Epic Store is great or anything here
heck yeah man! Same here. It's crazy how we're coming up on the 4th year and the game still feels fresh and exciting. Sometimes frustrating, for sure, but never boring!
Since this gen started it's the game that has easily sapped the most of my time. I'm coming up on 400 hours on the PC version.
(+ around 200 more on PS4 lmao)
If you want any of these, let me know.
Oxenfree
Mad Max
Guts and Glory
Carmageddon: Max Damage
Skulls of the Shogun
Pumped BMX +
System Shock 2
Lovely Planet
PixelJunk Shooter
War of the Human Tanks
One Finger Death Punch
Zoombinis
Oxenfree
Mad Max
Guts and Glory
Carmageddon: Max Damage
Skulls of the Shogun
Pumped BMX +
System Shock 2
Lovely Planet
PixelJunk Shooter
War of the Human Tanks
One Finger Death Punch
Zoombinis
Just following up from earlier about my Humble account getting suspended. They got back to me and said it was a mistake in their automatic fraud protection. Apparently they marked my account somehow and promise that it won't happen again. Not sure if it actually had anything to do with that coupon after all.
Anyways, I am now the proud owner of Dusk and I look forward to trying it out tomorrow.
Anyways, I am now the proud owner of Dusk and I look forward to trying it out tomorrow.
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I know I'm not Ibuki, but if you like Quake era FPS, then you can't go wrong with DUSK. I have a hard time remembering a better FPS in recent memory (with the exception of DOOM 2016, perhaps).
Who here owns the indie game movie on steam or gog? Id recommend giving it a watch. It features team meet and phil fish.
If anyone picks up an extra copy of Adr1ft from that GMG bundle, I might have a (good) humble monthly key with your name on it.
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