"Virgin playthrough" or "Maiden playthough", like in maiden voyage.
I think this controversy wouldn't have been as large if they would have presented a good alternative. Some tried, but many of them missed the point of blind playthrough. I think Spoiler-free is a pretty decent replacement, and I'm sure there's something even better out there. If blind folks feel a way about the term, then I have no say in it. I just wish Twitch would finally develop features that they've been asking for, or at least tell us they're going to.
"Blind playthrough" seems to be offensive to people for some reason...
But I don't see how "spoiler-free" is an alternative. How can a playthrough be spoiler-free? When someone else watches it for the first time it will be a spoiler for them. And also blind means it's first time for the playerI think this controversy wouldn't have been as large if they would have presented a good alternative. Some tried, but many of them missed the point of blind playthrough. I think Spoiler-free is a pretty decent replacement, and I'm sure there's something even better out there. If blind folks feel a way about the term, then I have no say in it. I just wish Twitch would finally develop features that they've been asking for, or at least tell us they're going to.
Spoiler-free, as in the streamer hasn't played it before and isn't using a guide. I'm not referring to the viewer in this case. I believe a blind playthrough is someone playing a game for the first time without help.But I don't see how "spoiler-free" is an alternative. How can a playthrough be spoiler-free? When someone else watches it for the first time it will be a spoiler for them. And also blind means it's first time for the player
I have seen the term spoiler-free in walkthroughs. That is used to not spoil the story for the first time players. So how can spoiler-free playthrough replace blind playthrough?
I think "uninformed playthrough" sounds good. Seems to capture the meaning the best."Spoiler-free" sounds good!
Edit: Though that could be misunderstood, because like when someone says spoiler free review for example it means one thing.
I thought a "blind play-through" was a blind-folded play-through of Dark Souls like:"Blind playthrough"
Then it would be called blind-folded playthrough, wouldn't it?I thought a "blind play-through" was a blind-folded play-through of Dark Souls like:
I did not know that it was a thing to call a "first play-through" a "blind" play-through. I think it makes sense to use the right terminology here.
Blind or blind-folded. Same meaning for me: you cannot see what is on the screen.Blind here would be that you can't see what's going to happen.
Hype. Btw, don't know if it is possible, but I would also like to play Kenzan Kiwami.From yesterday, so this is tomorrow and while I don't think we will see PC collection (it is not the right place) we might see Kiwami 3 (if it exists) and probably the first glimpse of Yakuza 8
And the two PSP games !Hype. Btw, don't know if it is possible, but I would also like to play Kenzan Kiwami.
SEGA actually talked about bringing the Japan setting ones overseas and well, while nothing has happened yet, I think it will at some point as they know there is interest for this one.Hype. Btw, don't know if it is possible, but I would also like to play Kenzan Kiwami.
It'd be nice if they'd also address the future of Yakuza 7 for us Asian plebs. If they're going to cancel it, just say it and end our suffering.From yesterday, so this is tomorrow and while I don't think we will see PC collection (it is not the right place) we might see Kiwami 3 (if it exists) and probably the first glimpse of Yakuza 8
:cheers::LittleCat:the cat tree should arrive today or tomorrow.
It's not about what most people feel about that wording, it's about a particular minority of people without effective eyesight. And I don't think we should be telling them how to feel about a word that's loaded with all kinds of misconceptions and negative associations.If you're getting offended by "blind playthrough" when you know full well what it means, you need to get real.
I must say that for all the open mindedness I preached a few days ago, this controversy is pushing my limits a little bit.If you're getting offended by "blind playthrough" when you know full well what it means, you need to get real.
The problem is when does it stop, especially for a word that has no malicious intent behind it. Feels like a vocal minority kicking up a fuss.It's not about what most people feel about that wording, it's about a particular minority of people without effective eyesight. And I don't think we should be telling them how to feel about a word that's loaded with all kinds of misconceptions and negative associations.
I find it much more sympathetic when someone calls out a word that they feel is othering them, then a group of people acting like "snowflakes" (not talking about anyone here on Meta) because a common phrase they are used to might actually not be perfect.
I think it is due to some contractual relationships between Sega and certain party (eg. Sony) regarding the Asian version. Come on, they can't hate money that much. right?It'd be nice if they'd also address the future of Yakuza 7 for us Asian plebs. If they're going to cancel it, just say it and end our suffering.
Yeah, there are two. Kenzan and Ishin. Kenzan was the first PS3 Yakuza game while Ishin was released during PS4 era.And wasn’t there another historic spin off ? Sorry if there wasn’t, waking up.
I disagree. "Going in blind" has a meaning. "Blind playthrough" does not convey the right meaning:blind playthrough has a meaning, going in blind.
As for this, I have similar issues:
When does what stop? This is such a minor thing, you aren't robbed of anything. No one is banning the world, Twitch is just removing a tag. You are still free to call your Twitch streams whatever you want. Also, that it's a vocal minority is the point. If we want a more open, and inclusive society, we should at least pretend to listen to those who are often and easily ignored.The problem is when does it stop, especially for a word that has no malicious intent behind it. Feels like a vocal minority kicking up a fuss.
Who knows maybe food labels will have to ban the word 10% fat because someone takes offense to that word.
wish they'd done more, though (like added some tools to help visually impaired people watch/create streams) ... this is kind of a meaningless gesture on its own ... but at least with that change now there's a place for actual playthroughs made by blind people .... 'cause before there wasn't really a good way to tag those streams (and they do exist)It's a good thing on part of Twitch.
The R word is "Retard".I disagree. "Going in blind" has a meaning. "Blind playthrough" does not convey the right meaning:
I am all for using the right words to convey a precise meaning for the audience, and "blind playthrough" does not check the marks.
- I understand it as a blindfolded speedrun challenge,
- the playthrough is not blind, and it could not be.
As for this, I have similar issues:
I wish people used words which can be found in the dictionary, for their precise meaning.
- I have no idea what the R word is.
- when I read the tweet, I thought he was replying to a tweet by a user named folx. I had no idea that he was using "folx" as a word, I guess adding an -x is some kind of neutral plural form to Spawn.
- whenever I discover some bubble on social media, it is like reading a new language on which a few people agreed for some reason. It does not feel inclusive to me. It is actually rather anxiety-inducing: if you do not go on social media for a year, then that is it for you, elder, you are out of touch.
That's a good idea, but also really hard to do if your main content is visual. A useful idea to me, would be automatic generation of closed captions, plus voice generated narration. Youtube is doing that, and I guess Twitch could work with Google to use their tech, would make for good PR for them both.wish they'd done more, though (like added some tools to help visually impaired people watch/create streams) ... this is kind of a meaningless gesture on its own ... but at least with that change now there's a place for actual playthroughs made by blind people .... 'cause before there wasn't really a good way to tag those streams (and they do exist)
But the meaning of words changes. Fast. Much, much faster than a dictionary.I wish people used words which can be found in the dictionary, for their precise meaning.
Thanks.
The issue is that the meaning is lost. Best case scenario: one takes the time to look up the word and finds a definition (or at least an explanation) on "urban dictionary" (where one can find the worst things) or some personal blogpost, or in some random Twitter thread. Middle case scenario: one infers the meaning from the context. Worst case scenario: one skips the posts.
[UWSL]made without some prior knowledge: [UWSL]a blind purchase; [/UWSL]a blind lead in a card game.[/UWSL]The issue is that the meaning is lost. Best case scenario: one takes the time to look up the word and finds a definition (or at least an explanation) on "urban dictionary" (where one can find the worst things) or some personal blogpost, or in some random Twitter thread. Middle case scenario: one infers the meaning from the context. Worst case scenario: one skips the posts.
As for folx, the definition/explanation can actually be found online on a "dictionary" website: What Does Folx Mean And Why Do People Spell It That Way?
This. The gesture would mean more if Twitch actually did things to help. It's an empty gesture.It's very hard to take Twitch seriously when they would rather make their ad tech more intrusive than add features to actually improve the experience of the visually impaired users or dealing with people that say much more harmful words.
Good job, you banned a word, collect your social media woke check on the left booth while fostering people that openly use retard and autistic as insults.
Meaning is given by people, not words. Literally. Which means "literally", and also its opposite, because people used it ironically depending on context.Thanks.
The issue is that the meaning is lost. Best case scenario: one takes the time to look up the word and finds a definition (or at least an explanation) on "urban dictionary" (where one can find the worst things) or some personal blogpost, or in some random Twitter thread. Middle case scenario: one infers the meaning from the context. Worst case scenario: one skips the posts.
As for folx, the definition/explanation can actually be found online on a "dictionary" website: What Does Folx Mean And Why Do People Spell It That Way?
True. My point about the dictionary (and more specifically my issue to understand new words used in small circles, and for which there is no obvious reference to look at for the rest of us) was not about "blind"."Blind playthrough" could easily be other meanings of "blind" if you don't have any context, which would leave room for a better term to be used, i'm not arguing against that, but "not in the dictionary" strikes me as a weird point to make since it is in every dictionary i had a look at
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I completely agree and I think it's just idiots poisoning the tone of the discourse for others. It's really a matter of-It's not about what most people feel about that wording, it's about a particular minority of people without effective eyesight. And I don't think we should be telling them how to feel about a word that's loaded with all kinds of misconceptions and negative associations.
I find it much more sympathetic when someone calls out a word that they feel is othering them, then a group of people acting like "snowflakes" (not talking about anyone here on Meta) because a common phrase they are used to might actually not be perfect.
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