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I wish they were porting Gravity Daze instead of HZD honestly.
At least the online servers would still be up if it were on PC. Sony really left SIE Japan to hang this gen, and screw them for that.
At least the online servers would still be up if it were on PC. Sony really left SIE Japan to hang this gen, and screw them for that.
I mean why not at this point?
Both Horizon and BotW have sold as much as they can sell on their consoles.
Why not release them on PC and bring in several hundred million in revenue. Both Nintendo and Sony have already gotten into mobile gaming. And kind of successful with it. I don't see people complain too much with their mobile stuff.
PC is the one space where both haven't attempted to make money in. The market is huge and both want to attract the Chinese market too. PC is the easiest way to do that.
If its a steam release I could see Horizon sell like 4 million and BotW with mod support could probably do 6-8.
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Asia market is a complete 180 degrees from US market huh.
Can you imagine. A PC port by Nintendo? Koei-Tecmo, watch out. There’s new competitor in town. Or, better yet, they’ll let KT do it for them since they often work with Nintendo and have experience in the PC space. Full on monkey paw.
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Nintendo will probably be weird and port all their games to a chinese PC sold exclusively in China or something 
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Of course.
Yes, but I think the business case for that is really hard to make. It takes more work for a product that will probably sell less (and that you might not be able to ask a high price for).
Whoa.
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter (this thing would still totally hold up, especially in gameplay and mostly even in graphics)
Suikoden 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.
Ar Tonelico 1, 2 and 3
Mana Khemia 1 and 2
That's 11 games but who cares
I can't blackmail anyone, and while I'd love to see a good port on that we don't even much capacity for extra work left right now.
Just don't buy it in the first week. Wait for the patch that adds M/KB support and then pick it up
This is correct, and navigating the codebase sometimes has a bit of an archeological expedition feel to it.
Seeing how Tencent is involved with Nintendo, this is a possibility.Nintendo will probably be weird and port all their games to a chinese PC sold exclusively in China or something
Sure Tencent is now distributing the N/S in China legally, but that may not end up taking off very far.
PC is still more popular than consoles in China. And well there is a lot of money to be made in China.
Who was it again that was selling the Nvidia Shield in China with GameCube games? Was it Tencent?
So if it did become a think it might be China only and done through WeGames and not through Steam or Steam China (Perfect World).
As for units of the game sold, 1 million is a safe bet.
Depending on the game I doubt the number would be that high on PC.
One thing that we can agree on at least is that if Bloodborne ever released on PC that game would sell over 3 millions units. 3 million for a fromsoft game on PC is not unheard of.
Sokpop collective (Steam Search) has spammed "released" around 40-50 games yesterday. When i look at the store pages they all have release dates in 2019. What happened? Why is this allowed?
They released their entire catalogue at the same time while indicating each game original release date on the store page. Nothing wrong with it, I think, a lot of old '90s games do that.
What a pleasant surprise
It's admittedly quite simple and certainly low budget but I found it very enjoyable. If you're a Terminator fan I think it's definitely worth a look at a good price (it's £20 right now on cdkeys)
It's admittedly quite simple and certainly low budget but I found it very enjoyable. If you're a Terminator fan I think it's definitely worth a look at a good price (it's £20 right now on cdkeys)
I think a really good BotW port could actually really end up selling 5 million units on Steam, or even more (not at full price, but eventually).
I also don't think it will happen, if Nintendo were to port their games (which in itself seems unlikely) they'd most likely build their own platform.
I also don't think it will happen, if Nintendo were to port their games (which in itself seems unlikely) they'd most likely build their own platform.
You could remove Suikoden IV from that list and nothing would be lost. If anything it'd be a positive move. And that would get you down to ten games!Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter (this thing would still totally hold up, especially in gameplay and mostly even in graphics)
Suikoden 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.
Ar Tonelico 1, 2 and 3
Mana Khemia 1 and 2
That's 11 games but who cares
But seriously, help NISA bring the rest of the Disgaea games to PC, please.
Thanks for the replies! Will consider giving the ar tonelico games a play someday.Of course.
Yes, but I think the business case for that is really hard to make. It takes more work for a product that will probably sell less (and that you might not be able to ask a high price for).
Whoa.
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter (this thing would still totally hold up, especially in gameplay and mostly even in graphics)
Suikoden 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.
Ar Tonelico 1, 2 and 3
Mana Khemia 1 and 2
That's 11 games but who cares
I can't blackmail anyone, and while I'd love to see a good port on that we don't even much capacity for extra work left right now.
One techniccal question I neglected to ask if you don't mind me asking it now: What are the limitations of Sparse Grid Super Sampling AA? Why aren't more games on PC utilizing this AA method?
I don't mind a Nintendo launcher long as it got community stuff like on Steam activity feed etc.
They'd need to get those on their currently existing platforms first.
Given their track record I seriously don't trust Nintendo not to create something that would give the Bethesda launcher a run for its money in how bad it is
TBH, at the end of the day all the companies will follow the MS scheme and will have their own platforms but also sell in multiple other platforms to catch all possible customers (let's not forget that brand loyalty might be toxic in some cases but in others is as simple as that person using just one brand and living happily with that choice)
So yeah, MS, Sony and in the future Nintendo they will all follow the same rules:
-have your own platform (ecosystem + max. profit)
-sell on other platforms such as Steam, EGS or GOG to get as many people as possible that are not interested in your ecosystem but your software.
I didn't know Bright Memory had Raytracing support, finally one game I can try this out with!
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Now Featuring Real-time Ray Tracing Support!
Isn’t it 30hz max for HDR ? At least it’s that way when I plug the PC on the TV, maybe the TV by itself can do 60.
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I wouldn't really have a problem with Nintendo/Xbox/Playstation launchers (a scenario that makes sense to these companies, profit-wise), and having to buy their titles from there.
I wouldn't even particularly care if they had achievements and similar functionalities, to be honest.
But, there's one thing that worries me in that scenario: having (or not) access to my games in the near future. Essentially, what console users experience with "backwards compatibility", or lack of.
As all of you surely know, on PC, if you bought your games 10-12 years ago on Steam, GOG, on similar places, or purely as a direct download from a developer, you are still able to play your games with no problems. Older titles may need a tweak or two (and usually, there's tools and a community helping users setting these things up), but you can still install and play your games, and in years to come.
Companies like Nintendo love to make their users having to re-buy their games on every console they purchase. How would that work on PC?
If Nintendo had a launcher (even if it is to sell their older games, like NES/SNES/N64/Gamecube/GB/GBC/GBA/NDS titles), and there were no limitations in terms of downloads, and there was some assurance that they wouldn't simply change their platform/structure a few years later, and people would be left without access to their purchases, I would happily use it.
But again, this is a company that loves to repackage, and re-sell the same product over and over. You bought Super Mario World on the Nintendo Wii store, and bought a Wii U or Switch? Yeah, tough luck, if you want to play Super Mario World again on that console, you need to buy it again.
I wouldn't even particularly care if they had achievements and similar functionalities, to be honest.
But, there's one thing that worries me in that scenario: having (or not) access to my games in the near future. Essentially, what console users experience with "backwards compatibility", or lack of.
As all of you surely know, on PC, if you bought your games 10-12 years ago on Steam, GOG, on similar places, or purely as a direct download from a developer, you are still able to play your games with no problems. Older titles may need a tweak or two (and usually, there's tools and a community helping users setting these things up), but you can still install and play your games, and in years to come.
Companies like Nintendo love to make their users having to re-buy their games on every console they purchase. How would that work on PC?
If Nintendo had a launcher (even if it is to sell their older games, like NES/SNES/N64/Gamecube/GB/GBC/GBA/NDS titles), and there were no limitations in terms of downloads, and there was some assurance that they wouldn't simply change their platform/structure a few years later, and people would be left without access to their purchases, I would happily use it.
But again, this is a company that loves to repackage, and re-sell the same product over and over. You bought Super Mario World on the Nintendo Wii store, and bought a Wii U or Switch? Yeah, tough luck, if you want to play Super Mario World again on that console, you need to buy it again.
Yeah, no problem with using a Playstation/Xbox/Nintendo launcher as it would be used for 1st party games just like I don't have any problems with Fortnite only being on EGS.
However, I would prefer to buy their games on Steam, so it's fantastic MS took the Steam road too.
If Playstation happens to go EGS only, Im not sure if I would have any problems with it, but it would be weird. Playstation going to PC would, I assume, be about expanding the playerbase which should mean a Steam release as I assume Playstation have researched enough to know that the biggest PC playerbase is found on Steam, not Epic.
However, I would prefer to buy their games on Steam, so it's fantastic MS took the Steam road too.
If Playstation happens to go EGS only, Im not sure if I would have any problems with it, but it would be weird. Playstation going to PC would, I assume, be about expanding the playerbase which should mean a Steam release as I assume Playstation have researched enough to know that the biggest PC playerbase is found on Steam, not Epic.
Quantic Dream's games and Sony own published games didn't make it to top 10 on EGS. It sold less than Microsoft game that also available on Gamepass and a meme game. If they really want to get PC market they'll want to not make it exclusive.
PS : wow EGS thread on page 2.
PS : wow EGS thread on page 2.
hopefully that will come as well if they really start porting games
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LiS2 better be on one of those lists
I feel scared that Satisfactory won't get a Stram release because it's one of the games that has sold well on EGS and there's no confirmation that it will get a Steam release. Devs have been like "it may or may not, we might just not release it on Steam" and any Steam release question has been answered on their Twitter and FB with "Steam? What's that"?
Well, 2 months to go.
Well, 2 months to go.
I mean, in the pre-Steam days, Sony would just release pc games through one of its own labels (SOE or whatever thats referred to as now, as an example or psygnosis). I don't see Sony needing to hop on the EGS wagon when they have experience with digital distribution and the platform isn't completely foreign to them. Slap together their own PC application for store/launching, call it PSPC and start porting PS exclusives (and then Drakan Ancient Gate please!).
Nintendo, would either make the oddest launcher/store yet; but on its own, or partner with another studio who has more experience to help them make the platform. Either way I don't see them putting anything on a third party store unless it's a humble/gmg style setup where it links you back into their ecosystem
Uh, I have a hard time imagining a dev, dumb as he may or may not be, passing on a big potential market.
That and World War Z.
Ugh Nintendo can't even make their Eshop good. PSN look like a masterpiece compared to Eshop.
Here are my GOTD picks.
The lack of other high-quality titles is more a sign of negligence of gaming on my part rather than opposition.
From what I've read so far, it totally would.... if I had played it. And for that matter even the first, haha. 
So many supposedly great games still left to even try.
The lack of other high-quality titles is more a sign of negligence of gaming on my part rather than opposition.
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LiS2 better be on one of those lists
From what I've read so far, it totally would.... if I had played it. And for that matter even the first, haha. So many supposedly great games still left to even try.
In the last region of Nioh now. Game is still enjoyable but the game also wastes its potential a lot.
Only time will make it sure
It will either come in 2 months, once it is out of Early Access or never
Only time will make it sure
It’s unfortunate that there have been so many BF games or I think they could have done fairly well in the ranking. For me it was between BF4 and BFV, but there’s also 3 and 1.
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So many supposedly great games still left to even try.
you're tearing me apart, Veggie!
I don't know about that. For me it's 50/50 whether they will or won't given the communications and videos they've put out ... I've honestly no idea which way they'll go.
Much as i would love to do Meta Co-Op Satisfactory and create masterworks like this...
I've got so many games to play i can miss this one like i miss the thousands of others released each year.
As long as this still exist, I will have hope:
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Satisfactory · AppID: 526870
Satisfactory is a first-person open-world factory building game with a dash of exploration and combat. Play alone or with friends, explore an alien planet, create multi-story factories, and enter conveyor belt heaven! Satisfactory Steam charts, data, update history.
The Satisfactory community manager is just a pathetic troll, ignore him. Going on the sales data, no idea how accurate it is, sales have dried up dramatically since the initial rush paid for by Epic out if their own pocket and the game still isn't out of EA. To not launch on Steam as soon as possible would be finacial malfeasance.
The line of thinking around here would have also said taking teh EGS money in the first place was stupid, so it's not hard to see why people might worry.
I manged to get my votes in before the deadline.
PC GotY 2019
5. Outward
Not particularly polished but really unique in today's gaming landscape, great fun to complete in coop.
4. Code Vein
It was billed as anime souls and it was anime souls. Unlike some other soulslikes, didn't forget the coop. Fun!
3. AI: The Somnium Files
Cool story bro.
2. Minoria
Not quite as amazing overall as Momodora IV (which was my GotY then), but still an awesome well-paced Metroidvania.
1. Disco Elysium
It's the most interesting take on the genre (whatever the genre is) that I've played in years.
PC GotD 2010
Note: This list is unsorted except for #1, and I tried to vary the genres and subgenres a bit and to not choose more than one game in a franchise.
x. Ys Origin
I'm putting this on the list due to the 2012 English language Steam release. Still my favourite ARPG of it's style, fantastically fluid and a joy to play.
x. Age of Wonders III
I thought a while about which game to chose to represent the 4X genre, and I settled on AoWIII. It has everything, great deep gameplay, polish, and a story-driven campaign.
x. Prey
My favourite entry in the immersive sim (sub-)genre in this decade. The Deus Exes and Dishonoreds were good as well, but not quite the same.
x. Portal 2
Great humor, great story, great coop, great gameplay, great production values. It's rare to see such a well-balanced game.
x. Divinity: Original Sin
I had to choose between this and its sequel here, and while D:OS2 is also fantastic, I feel like the original had the greatest impact.
x. Shadowrun: Dragonfall
Shadowrun is my favourite tabletop RPG setting, and while Hong Kong is also great, Harebrained Schemes really knocked it out of the park with this one.
x. Might & Magic X - Legacy
My favourite party-based first person blobber RPG of the decade. It was a short-lived revival, but not one I'll forget.
x. DARK SOULS™ II
I choose this one to represent Dark Souls in this list. All 3 are great but this is my favourite.
x. Pillars of Eternity
From the first teaser of the kickstarter to the final release of the last major update, this was one of the most joyful events of the decade for me. The second game was also great, but a similar argument as for Divinity OS applies.
1. EXAPUNKS
Everything about this game is made for me. The setting, the story, the style, and of course the gameplay.
EXA. PUNKS.
(Also, I just think of this as subsuming all other Zachtronics games, so that my list doesn't become boring)
PC GotY 2019
5. Outward
Not particularly polished but really unique in today's gaming landscape, great fun to complete in coop.
4. Code Vein
It was billed as anime souls and it was anime souls. Unlike some other soulslikes, didn't forget the coop. Fun!
3. AI: The Somnium Files
Cool story bro.
2. Minoria
Not quite as amazing overall as Momodora IV (which was my GotY then), but still an awesome well-paced Metroidvania.
1. Disco Elysium
It's the most interesting take on the genre (whatever the genre is) that I've played in years.
PC GotD 2010
Note: This list is unsorted except for #1, and I tried to vary the genres and subgenres a bit and to not choose more than one game in a franchise.
x. Ys Origin
I'm putting this on the list due to the 2012 English language Steam release. Still my favourite ARPG of it's style, fantastically fluid and a joy to play.
x. Age of Wonders III
I thought a while about which game to chose to represent the 4X genre, and I settled on AoWIII. It has everything, great deep gameplay, polish, and a story-driven campaign.
x. Prey
My favourite entry in the immersive sim (sub-)genre in this decade. The Deus Exes and Dishonoreds were good as well, but not quite the same.
x. Portal 2
Great humor, great story, great coop, great gameplay, great production values. It's rare to see such a well-balanced game.
x. Divinity: Original Sin
I had to choose between this and its sequel here, and while D:OS2 is also fantastic, I feel like the original had the greatest impact.
x. Shadowrun: Dragonfall
Shadowrun is my favourite tabletop RPG setting, and while Hong Kong is also great, Harebrained Schemes really knocked it out of the park with this one.
x. Might & Magic X - Legacy
My favourite party-based first person blobber RPG of the decade. It was a short-lived revival, but not one I'll forget.
x. DARK SOULS™ II
I choose this one to represent Dark Souls in this list. All 3 are great but this is my favourite.
x. Pillars of Eternity
From the first teaser of the kickstarter to the final release of the last major update, this was one of the most joyful events of the decade for me. The second game was also great, but a similar argument as for Divinity OS applies.
1. EXAPUNKS
Everything about this game is made for me. The setting, the story, the style, and of course the gameplay.
EXA. PUNKS.
(Also, I just think of this as subsuming all other Zachtronics games, so that my list doesn't become boring
)
SilentPatch for Yakuza Kiwami 2 releases – fixes Toylets and more
Peeing minigame in 30 FPS - but also more FPS related fixes.
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Hmm let's see.
Satisfactory was released on March 2019.
On June 2019 it already sold 507k copies
From PlayTracker we knew that on 2019 Satisfactory sold 644 copies, so 140k copies in half a year, with 2 mega sales.
Yeah it's front loaded.
We don't know about Ashen but Supergiant seems really happy with Hades' performance on Steam.
I'm trying to remember what I enjoyed this year. I haven't played much.
Dicey Dungeons is an automatic. Short Hike for sure. Control. Hades for EA.
Can I vote for Shovel Knight King of Cards?
Supraland! Can't forget that.
Dicey Dungeons is an automatic. Short Hike for sure. Control. Hades for EA.
Can I vote for Shovel Knight King of Cards?
Supraland! Can't forget that.
Financially it makes no sense for Satisfactory to stay exclusive after looking at Hades performance on Steam. The only reason would be if they want to sacrifice themselves to make a 12% cut the norm.
For perspective, according to PlayTracker's stat, Hades already sold about 220k copies which can make 9th on EGS top ten only behind Control.
Stick with Tim to try and get another EGS payday for their follow up game? Or maybe angle for a buyout? Those, of course only if they stay egsclusive
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