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I'm truly sorry but I can't advise anyone to buy it, even for 2 bucks. Maybe it's just me, but tactical part is buggy as hell, lines of view are awkwardly fucked up, and when it works, whole thing is kinda "meh".

And that's too bad, because I was expecting this game, wanting it to be good. There's good things in it, story, scenarios, lore... graphics aren't bad either. But I must be honest and say that it's a real disappointment.
 
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NarohDethan

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Didn't Burnout Paradise already get a remaster or a remake or ...something? And it pissed a lot of people off?
It was released in a sorry state. Patches have made up for it but it still has some issues.
I played it a bit with EA Vault thingy but personally I didnt like the progression system, so I dropped it.
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I think releasing PS5 info drip feed style will bite them in the ass coming the Holidays, given how COVID has mangled people’s finances. Microsoft laying it out in the table exactly what to expect will do wonders.
 
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I think releasing PS5 info drip feed style will bite them in the ass coming the Holidays, given how COVID has mangled people’s finances. Microsoft laying it out in the table exactly what to expect will do wonders.
That all depends on how MS announce their future plans or games and how they're gonna market the console outside the US. I still really don't believe they have an advantage when they say there won't be any exclusives for the first year or two and opting for cross-gen , it'll also be confusing later on since the Xbox series X is honestly a bad name. MS IPs are also aren't as varied or even that big compared to Sony's, and saying "Amazon and Google are our main competitors" makes me believe they really don't know what they are doing.
 

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That all depends on how MS announce their future plans or games and how they're gonna market the console outside the US. I still really don't believe they have an advantage when they say there won't be any exclusives for the first year or two and opting for cross-gen , it'll also be confusing later on since the Xbox series X is honestly a bad name. MS IPs are also aren't as varied or even that big compared to Sony's, and saying "Amazon and Google are our main competitors" makes me believe they really don't know what they are doing.
Well the PS4 also didnt have an exclusive worth a damn for like 3 years :p
 
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Well the PS4 also didnt have an exclusive worth a damn for like 3 years :p
True, it only had that Last of Us remaster port and it only got really good from 2015 and onwards, I think the issue MS hasn't kept up during the later years and even some of the more worthwhile exclusives to own get ported to Switch like Cuphead and Ori. At least they'll hopefully avoid that disastrous PR launch of Xbox One and not make the same mistakes again
 
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But those are from 2018-2019. I think the first good exclusive was Bloodborne. In fact, the Xbone had excellent exclusives at the start before they startled dwlinding.
KI was really great and Forza is Forza, but dunno about the rest of the catalogue when I feel they're forgettable or mediocre like Sunset Overdrive and Ryse, or how the MCC has a lot of problems. Biggest personal annoyance for me was how they released D4 without any marketing (literally announcing the release date a day before it's release) and basically sent it to die, and left Sweary bitter on he can't even complete the story, or reading the Phantom Dust reboot story and it's awful development. Hopefully the restructuring of their game studios and buying new ones won't allow stuff like that to happen but who knows.
 

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What a strange situation. A dev making the game deliberately unplayable for his costumers is unacceptable.
I think he only mentioned it only displays that message at the start each time you boot the game? It's not really unplayable but it's kinda annoying. I think the dev is just frustrated on how he can't even get paid or release the expansion when it's already completed, and he's probably even more frustrated at indie publishers trying to exploit him but the way he "exposes" them means he'll never get a game published if he keeps leaking their terms tbh.
 

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I launched the game Devil Engine for the first time in some time today, and had an unpleasant surprise:
In the end he is just punishing his fans for his mistake for choosing Dangen as publisher for his game.
He gains nothing from it
Do people have to pay for an updated game? That's would be insane

I didn't know that Yacht Club is a publisher too. What games have they published?
 

ISee

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I think he only mentioned it only displays that message at the start each time you boot the game? It's not really unplayable but it's kinda annoying. I think the dev is just frustrated on how he can't even get paid or release the expansion when it's already completed, and he's probably even more frustrated at indie publishers trying to exploit him but the way he "exposes" them means he'll never get a game published if he keeps leaking their terms tbh.
Ah I see.
Brain's not working without a coffee in the morning.
 

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But those are from 2018-2019. I think the first good exclusive was Bloodborne. In fact, the Xbone had excellent exclusives at the start before they startled dwlinding.
Oh, I see. I guess I misread your post, I thought we're talking about the past 3 years, not the first 3 years of its lifespan.
 

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None released yet but they're publishing Cyber Shadow which looks decent.
Has the devs disclosed what revenue split would be? How does the dev for Devil Engine know this information? He also claims that Yacht Club erases credit. Where does he gets this information from? I am not defending Yacht Club or something, I want reliable source
 

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Has the devs disclosed what revenue split would be? How does the dev for Devil Engine know this information? He also claims that Yacht Club erases credit. Where does he gets this information from? I am not defending Yacht Club or something, I want reliable source
I honestly don't know what he's talking about but you can ask the dev directly and he'll probably give you a reliable source unless it's all useless second hand information
 

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I'm truly sorry but I can't advise anyone to buy it, even for 2 bucks. Maybe it's just me, but tactical part is buggy as hell, lines of view are awkwardly fucked up, and when it works, whole thing is kinda "meh".

And that's too bad, because I was expecting this game, wanting it to be good. There's good things in it, story, scenarios, lore... graphics aren't bad either. But I must be honest and say that it's a real disappointment.
I kinda liked it. It is a bit rough round the edges but I found the story alright and the combat XCOM-esque enough to be fun. I'd say if you like turn based games its worth the cheap price.
 
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Devil Engine dev says Yacht Club’s 50/50 split is shit. I thought it was great and everyone was going wild over it just a few weeks ago when Epic announced their publishing branch.
 
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....<snip>forgettable or mediocre like Sunset Overdrive...<snip>
I thought we were friends, man :(
Sunset Overdrive lives in a weird place in my head. Part of my brain says "install it and have some awesome fun again" while simultaneously another part says "nah forget it, fun for five minutes and you know it pisses you off because it's just meh."

I have no idea what makes me feel like it because it does ALL the right things as a game, but I do.

I've never finished it on PC and not even when I bought it when released originally. Though I really want to, I should do, maybe I will, or not...nah.
 

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I kinda liked it. It is a bit rough round the edges but I found the story alright and the combat XCOM-esque enough to be fun. I'd say if you like turn based games its worth the cheap price.
I agree on the story and the way it's told. On the rest, agree to disagree :p

But thanks for your insight, at least people who buy it now, knows what to expect with our different opinions about it ;)
 
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Does this invalidate part the criticism of Dangen, or is this more of a case of a coincidence in which this was a match made in heaven between excellent people?
This does not invalidate part of the criticism of Dangen.
And, there's a side case about Ben Judd being an apparent ass with the ladies.

But, do note: all of these attacks on Dangen, and all of this about them not paying developers, and those "anonymous" blogs detailing bad practices, and they "holding games hostage", have all came from a former contractor that worked for them, and the two developers who are now working with her to publish their games/expansions, and it pertains to those two games.
So, you have two developers unilaterally terminating deals, to work with a person who previously worked with/at Dangen, and they are the ones doing all of this negative propaganda.

For me, that's a business dispute. And again, there are places to deal with them.
If things were as clear cut as they paint it, and if indeed they had just cause, they would have released their games by now, instead of doing all of this.

So yeah, I do think it was a match made in heaven, between a company with incompetent people, a contractor/employee who, as it's sadly frequent, tries to steal clients away from her previous employer, and two developers who, as it's easy to see by their posts, clearly don't know how to act professionally, and are apparently intended on burning every bridge with possible publishers.

Dude.


You'd be pissed off too.
Dude.
Don't speak for me, please.

First of all, I would surely never handle this the way this is being handled. If the contract was violated, I would hire a lawyer, to proceed with this through the appropriate channels. That's how you deal with a business disagreement. You don't throw tantrums on social media, and internet forums, you handle things in the proper places.

Second of all, I would never pull the crap he did by updating the game, and essentially causing bother to the people who paid for the game, and who might want to purchase his upcoming games. Burning channels with everyone, including potential clients, is not the way I would surely do things.

And third, he got at least partially paid. He complains that he hasn't been paid royalties for purchases after a certain period of time, which may be true (not unusual when there's a dispute, for one party to withhold payment until things are legally cleared). But, this started after launch, with matters related to the expansion.

It's not the first time you reply to me to defend developers, against paying customers (the last time was for a developer who crowdfunded his game, and has since then released several games, multiple ports, and there's no signs of the game he crowdfunded being released, or even being anywhere close to launching).

I'll ask you: what about the people who paid for the games of both of these developers? Don't they deserve some respect?
And regarding this one, is it right to essentially being dragged into a business dispute, when all you did was spend your money on a game?
Just because he is pissed, does that mean he's entitled to pull the crap he did?
 

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Finished Gears Tactics. Not even an idea why. Felt bad leaving a strategy game behind, even if I strongly dislike loot boxes and being drowned by loot I don't need. Don't get me wrong, loot hunting can be fun in some games. But it starts feeling like drowning players in items, mostly downgrades, is this generations QTEs. It's not needed everywhere.

Anyway, scouts with the right equipment are broken imo. The problem is to roll said equipment.

The story was trivial, it really didn't matter at all. Good guys hunt bad guy. There is a certain big reveal, but I saw it coming from a mile away. I'm also pretty sure it's not even that for people knowing the lore.


Sunset Overdrive lives in a weird place in my head. Part of my brain says "install it and have some awesome fun again" while simultaneously another part says "nah forget it, fun for five minutes and you know it pisses you off because it's just meh."
This is reflects my feelings towards SO very well.
 
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You ought to be able to run the games on your prefered scummvm build as well.
Thanks! I'm not too savvy with Dosbox or Scummvm so I tend to cross my fingers and hope it works. But I'm seeing it's probably not gonna be that easy according to the reviews on Steam though :')
 
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Thanks! I'm not too savvy with Dosbox or Scummvm so I tend to cross my fingers and hope it works. But I'm seeing it's probably not gonna be that easy according to the reviews on Steam though :')
Just get the latest scummvm build
Then add game and choose the game's directory or folder and scummvm will recognize it.
Setting screen options isn't too hard, although getting MT32-Roland music running is another matter ;3
 

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I'll ask you: what about the people who paid for the games of both of these developers? Don't they deserve some respect?
And regarding this one, is it right to essentially being dragged into a business dispute, when all you did was spend your money on a game?
Just because he is pissed, does that mean he's entitled to pull the crap he did?
I completely agree with you and this has some interesting parallels to the Nier:Automata situation. Users being taken hostage by two shitty parties.

Childish doesn't even begin to describe their handling of it. I understand the emotions but you don't screw your customers over, or at least you leave them out of it.
 

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I hope this makes people try out the game.

I've very found of it. In fact, I was a big follower of Elixir Studios during its brief existence. :)

Evil Genius has, besides the fun gameplay, some still lovely animations, and the soundtrack is pure heaven for fans of the Eurospy genre.

The Steam version doesn't include the World Domination Starter Kit (at least it didn't the last time I played it on Steam), that among other things, adds a new henchman.
You can find it freely available online (since, after some time, it was released as a free download).
 

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In combination with the article Arulan posted in the RPG thread about what makes a good dungeon and how that is building something around the mechanics of the game that are not just combat encounters and currently still playing Half-Life 2 I came to the conclusion that this is not only true for RPG dungeons but for videogames in general.

Did just the level where you don't have to step on sand unless you want to be swarmed by antlions. There is platforming and using the physics to build bridges or stepping stones. I think in other games there would be "safe" spots in which some enemies might attack you regardless because you don't want to be bored. And what better way to do that than throwing a handful of enemies at you.

Which always brings me back to some guy at GDC or whatever saying "videogames should be build like theme parks" is one of the worst things that happened to the medium.
 

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how that is building something around the mechanics of the game that are not just combat encounters
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Which always brings me back to some guy at GDC or whatever saying "videogames should be build like theme parks" is one of the worst things that happened to the medium.
I couldn't agree more, both on level design and the use of physics as well as systems-driven gameplay instead of designer-wants-it-that-way, outcome-driven gameplay.
 

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That's too bad about the warning screen thing in Devil Engine. That puts me off buying it if I have to see that every time I start it. Glad I didn't buy it when it launched because I'm not interested in their little squabble.
 
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Yeah I wouldn’t presume to know what resources the Devil Engine dev actually has available, or if they’ve told the complete truth. In an Internet dispute like this it’s hard to tell.

A splash screen warning isn’t any more annoying than all the other splash screens. I don’t get what the big deal about that is.

If I get Devil Engine it’ll be after all the dust settles. Obviously not worth it to buy a version that won’t get updated. The splash screen has nothing to do with that.

FWIW the dev does want people to refund the game and/or not buy it.
 
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Dude.
Don't speak for me, please.

First of all, I would surely never handle this the way this is being handled. If the contract was violated, I would hire a lawyer, to proceed with this through the appropriate channels. That's how you deal with a business disagreement. You don't throw tantrums on social media, and internet forums, you handle things in the proper places.

Second of all, I would never pull the crap he did by updating the game, and essentially causing bother to the people who paid for the game, and who might want to purchase his upcoming games. Burning channels with everyone, including potential clients, is not the way I would surely do things.

And third, he got at least partially paid. He complains that he hasn't been paid royalties for purchases after a certain period of time, which may be true (not unusual when there's a dispute, for one party to withhold payment until things are legally cleared). But, this started after launch, with matters related to the expansion.

It's not the first time you reply to me to defend developers, against paying customers (the last time was for a developer who crowdfunded his game, and has since then released several games, multiple ports, and there's no signs of the game he crowdfunded being released, or even being anywhere close to launching).

I'll ask you: what about the people who paid for the games of both of these developers? Don't they deserve some respect?
And regarding this one, is it right to essentially being dragged into a business dispute, when all you did was spend your money on a game?
Just because he is pissed, does that mean he's entitled to pull the crap he did?
The power dynamics of small indie dev and a publisher who holds the purse strings is such that I'm easily siding with the dev here, no question. The Dangen response attempt wasn't much of anything and despite making news that he would step down, we know that Judd is also still there as of January this year. So fuck Dangen.

And so yes, if the dev felt that updating the game with that message was something he should do so people wouldn't forget the situation, I fully support him. It's a small protest. I'm sorry it's an inconvenience to you. But in the end it's just an inconvenience.

It's funny you would say "Don't speak for me, please." when you are kind of doing it yourself with this "defend developers against paying customers" implication. I actually had to look up what it was since it didn't sound familiar. At no point in my post I defended Bado for not shipping Iya. I just said that 7 years later I've stopped caring about it, and I would never trust him on another KS. I wouldn't really call that "defending a developer".

No native controller support in XCOM Chimera! That sucks.
If you use steam input, the game might have selected a wrong template for you as it did for me. Switching to gamepad template worked on my end.
 
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