Community MetaSteam September 2022 | You were expecting Kingdom Hearts, but it’s me Dio(field)!

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mastemas

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been playing soul hackers 2 for 41 hours now

the game is very nice in general, fits the reviews it has gotten, i really appreciate some of the dungeons as they do give me flashbacks of smt sjr's hellish dungeons

however, the more i play the game, the more i miss how final bosses were; instead of simple fights you could grind for to defeat it in like, 10-15 mins, i miss the time when you had to prepare, plan, strategize and grind to even have a chance to defeat the final boss for 30 mins, specifically talking about smt sjr's true final boss
there was always a sense of panic when you fought against it, because you knew that, while your run could never be insta-killed by one cheap move, you always knew that if you even did one thing wrong, it would be an end to the run purely because of your fault

in case anyone here's not familiar with the true final boss of smt sjr, here's a few points of what it does to you and some context:
  • The boss itself is around lv. 87, very high in comparison to some JRPGs out there, but this naturally demands that you, the player, has to first grind and fuse demons which are as high or even higher level to have a chance at this boss
  • Naturally, the boss has all kinds of elemental attacks which then demands that your demons (as well as you) have a large variations of elements you have nullified/reflected/absorbed
  • However, the boss also has a special almighty attack (unblockable magic) that debuffs everyone, demanding that you have demons that can both nullify the nerf, as well as buff the whole party
  • In addition, the boss also has a special expel-based attack which instakills anyone who isn't immune to expel; this isn't a big problem for the player usually, but to his demons which could be weak to it, it could. The boss also has a special move that removes EVERYONE'S resistance to expel (such as the protagonist/player), rendering them vulnerable to the instakill move, forcing the player to specifically scavenge for items that makes them immune to expel for a turn before the boss fight
  • When the boss reaches 20%, the boss reaches the second phase, where they will sacrifice a plot character to get full HP, as well as have a base form which gains resistance to absolutely everything (including almighty), except for special co-op attacks, which are described more later
  • During the second phase, the boss will unlock special moves that protects her weaknesses, negates buffs, inflicts fear on the entire party, as well as a healing move that heals her for 1/12th of her entire healthbar, in addition to buffing all of her stats 4x times
  • During the entirety of the boss fight, the boss will also change between resistances/weaknesses as well as moves based on previous bosses you fought to unlock this fight, BUT, during her second phase she will still resist everything EXCEPT for the weaknesses, which you have to then hit to activate special co-op attacks
  • Another feature of her second phase is activating toras; all of the game's demons are divided into three alignments (law, neutral, chaos), and if you (or other demons in the party) share their alignment, you can do special co-op attacks with them at the end of an attack which strikes someone's weakness, BUT these toras will completely reflect any and all attack from demons from a chosen tora pointed at an alignment, forcing the player to have demons of all alignments which they can quickly change between when a tora activates
  • And this is all while having demons who can do elemental magics, as well as roles such as buffer/nerfer, healer, attacker, and so on

sure, the fight when you get to it is very tedious, but nothing beats it when you're actually prepared for it, trying an attempt and seeing how far you go, it feels like a complete and utter warzone
 
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C-Dub

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Words cannot describe how excited for P5R I am. I’ve played it before, but I still can't wait.

I wish Sega would hurry up and add a Steam store page.
 

Hektor

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Gonna replay Persona 5 for the third time, which means ill have played every Persona game at least thrice to completion.

What do you mean Persona 1? There were games before Persona 3? Never heard of'em.
 

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I hope that P5R runs well on Steam Deck.

I already beat OG P5 and liked the game but I did have some issues with the story and some of the characters.


We are not getting the OLD ATLUS back and we just have to live with that.


At some point in time I would like to play Persona 0-2 on my Steam Deck. Especially seeing how the PSP version of Eternal Punishment got an English fan patch complete about a month or two ago.


I also saw this saw this who thing about how people believe that Japanese users tend to give more negative reviews compared to western users and that has lead to some games being region locked in Japan or not being available in Japanese.


From what I saw if something in the west was to get a 90/100 in Japan it would get something closer to a 80/10. And something like 3 stars would be considered average in Japan while in the west 3 stars just looks bad.


This is not new and there have been multiple studies that people have done in regards to steam reviews in Japan about them and their findings were something along the lines that there was less than a 5% higher margin of negative reviews compared to negative western English reviews.

And how the percentage is very low (maybe 1% of reviews being made in Japanese) that they would have a major impact on the overall score and that there should be no need to not sell the game in Japan.



I'm curious about why the N/S eShop doesn't have a review system anymore, and what the 3DS and Wii U eShop reviews looked like. The review system was very very basic. You can rate something out of 5 stars, you would also be able to categorize who you think the game is best suited for (you would have options like kids that like rpgs and stuff like that)

If they were to implement a new review system I would what Nintendo and Sony would choose to do with theirs.
 

Cacher

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I said I will get P5R on day 1 but now will skip it for the time being. Waaaaaaay too many games to play and I have my JRPG fill from Xenoblade 3. I want to play some shorter games instead.
 

ZKenir

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Words cannot describe how excited for P5R I am. I’ve played it before, but I still can't wait.

I wish Sega would hurry up and add a Steam store page.
Same, my most anticipated game this year, gonna play it during my christmas holidays
 
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Mivey

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Does Persona 3 also drop next month? Looking forward to that one more since I want to play the series in order.
Gonna replay Persona 5 for the third time, which means ill have played every Persona game at least thrice to completion.

What do you mean Persona 1? There were games before Persona 3? Never heard of'em.
Don't sleep on Persona 2 (both of 'em), they are pretty nice. Especially with the recent fan translation of Eternal Punishment for PSP, you can play them both on PSP with some nice modern features, like a faster run cycle, an easy mode (if you dont want to bother with actually learning anything at all about the combat system, seriously it's not that hard) and overall better presentation than the PS1 versions.
 
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C-Dub

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Damn. I guess they'll actually have to port that old PSP games to modern platforms first, whereas P5R is already running on x86 machines.
I think it's more that P5 is a priority to port than the time it takes to do one versus the other. P5R was probably started before P3P and the P4G ports, and that's reflected in the release dates for them.

P4G is also on x86 hardware (PC) and that's also 2023 for PS4/Xbox One.
 

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What do you mean Persona 1? There were games before Persona 3? Never heard of'em.
play innocent sin and eternal punishment (recently fan translated) with PPSSPP emulator on Deck is great.
 
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FeedMeAStrayCat

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Just got back from a trip to Europe. Went to Scotland for my cousins's wedding and then from Norway to see extended family. Great to see a new thread. I also took my Steamdeck with me which made for a great way to play my games on the plane.
That trip sounds lovely! What games did you play on Deck during?
 

NarohDethan

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Given that Elden Ring is certain to win GOTY, which music track would you like to hear on the orchestra medley?
 
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Avern

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Started playing Tunic and it seems great! Love the vibe so far, reminds me of the feeling I got with Fez back in the day.
It's fantastic! I finished it last week and was blown away over and over. Its sense of mystery and approach to secrets is some of the best ever. Almost certainly going to be slotting it in at #2 behind Elden Ring on my GOTY list.

Do your best to play without looking anything up. It's got some elements that would be easy to spoil.
 

Hektor

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I have no idea how you can do that. For me, the games already consistently overstay their welcome on the first playthrough.
Well its easy cuz the games fill all three of my voided core needs in life.

Friends, cute girls and turn-based JRPG combat.

Given that Elden Ring is certain to win GOTY, which music track would you like to hear on the orchestra medley?

play innocent sin and eternal punishment (recently fan translated) with PPSSPP emulator on Deck is great.
That sounds like a good use case for my deck.
 

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Elden Ring official manga

 

Ascheroth

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I said I will get P5R on day 1 but now will skip it for the time being. Waaaaaaay too many games to play and I have my JRPG fill from Xenoblade 3. I want to play some shorter games instead.
Yeah, I'll probably pass too for now. I'll definitely get Trails this month and there's already way too much stuff piling up, since Genshin is enough to fill most of my gaming time right now (since I've recently been doing more reading and watching again). Seriously, I don't know how they manage to release this much stuff all the time. I'm not done with it yet, but I guesstimate the current update is about equivalent to a 50+ hours JRPG, and there's already going to be more in 3 weeks (there is still over half of the current region left) :sweaty-blob:
I'm probably going to add the individual areas/updates into my "Completed Games" list to feel better (and honestly you can look at them as DLCs anyway, more or less).
 

Knurek

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I still have to try how Devil Summoner. Digital Devil Saga, Lucifer's Call and Nocturne work with PCSX2 emu on Deck.
Lucifer's Call and Nocturne are the same game though? And you already seem to have the HD remaster installed, no need for these.
I played DDS a bit on Deck, I think you need to disable HT to have the games run full speed.
 

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Lucifer's Call and Nocturne are the same game though? And you already seem to have the HD remaster installed, no need for these.
I played DDS a bit on Deck, I think you need to disable HT to have the games run full speed.
oh great. Thanks.
These are the SMT PS2 ISOs I have on my HDD, I'm adding all games to Steam time to time XD because I want to have all my game collection there. I've to manage what is what XD.

With all region renames I'm quite lost.
 

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I don't think there is an option (unless the developer puts it on a branch... which they always should but that's a different story).

However, you can do it without staying offline by editing the file Steam checks to see which version you have installed.

Hmm, I couldn't recall the details so with googling I found this:

That explains both the option I used (editing the appmanifest) and also alternatives.
It worked, its a bit of a pain because with GTA all the files structure changed but its doable with a bit of tinkering.
I'm definitely saving that workaround, it will be useful for sure. For reference, this was also useful for me:

Comunità di Steam :: Guida :: [2022] How To Bypass Forced Game Updates! (steamcommunity.com)
 
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