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Samson

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Yeah a few things got locked behind early story missions, but you could join LS/FC as early as you first created a character.

I asked in a few communities but since I got no response, I think most are just doing things in their own FC and not really interested in managing additional LSes. Oh well.

I find it difficult to make new friends in modern MMOs, most people I run into from duty finder aren't even on the same server most of the time, and the open world is basically empty.
If you're looking to talk to people and meet people, the best in-game places are either the endgame hub of the current expansion, or Limsa Lominsa, which is everyone's favorite base city because of how its laid out.

Another decent way to talk to people is to find Party Finder groups of people planning to do a large amount of content. E.g., rerunning a primal to get a mount, or finishing all 12 levels of the 8-man raids. I've made a handful of friends from doing that.
 

Fluffynov

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I just want to get hyped for mmos again. The last couple of years have been a rollercoaster of emotions. I played ArcheAge pre 1.0 in Korea and it was legit the best mmo (from a gameplay and systems perspective) that I've played up to that point. Then they fucked it up in Korea and the west got the shitty version. FFXIV ARR was neat from an immersion and world perspective but after hitting 50 the annoying "gather parts for that weapon endgame" thingy ruined the fun for me and my friends. BDO was freaking gorgeous and the world felt believable with all the workers running about and the cities bustling with people and npcs but the game was an ultimately shallow experience.

Give me a good mmo again :loudly-crying-face:
 
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EdwardTivrusky

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Anteater If we can have Cross-DataCentre LinkShells then i've no problem joining one even if we can't play together a Global MC Linkshell would be fun even with TimeZones wreaking havoc!

My experience may be different as i'm on one of the new EU servers so there's lots of activity everywhere compared to when i went server walking and the older servers seemed dead. On Twintania I get FC invites left, right and center. I had them while exploring, doing FATES, standing around in Gridania/Limsa/Ul'Dah, there's always someone shouting invites in the main hubs too. I even co-signed about 5 or 6 of them before i ended up in the one i'm in now.
 

Cordelia

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FFXIV ARR was neat from an immersion and world perspective but after hitting 50 the annoying "gather parts for that weapon endgame" thingy ruined the fun for me and my friends.

Give me a good mmo again :loudly-crying-face:
That's an optional content :thinking-blob: people did it just for fashion :thinking-blob:

I also missed good MMO. I missed being able to have the fresh feeling in enjoying the world and leveling process.

Btw Guild Wars 2 is in a lot of mess these days lol.
 
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ISee

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Reached Level 18 in WoW Classic with my Warrior and decided to tank my first Dungeon with random players.

It was a catastrophe.
Maybe it is me, but early game warrior tanking is difficult, you have one taunt (10 sec cooldown), no AOE to speak off, 25% of your hits miss the enemy out of principle (which makes aggro generation hard) and there is no aggro pull ability (you can shoot stuff with a ranged weapon though).
Our heal was lvl 16 (recommended lvl is 18), the hunter wanted to pull because he didn't think I was capable of kiteing enemies into his traps (it's not difficult), the DD warrior charged whenever he wanted, every body attacked a different mob, crowd control was rare. I even marked primary, secondary and CC targets... it didn't help.
I told them about the wonder of the "F" button a.k.a "Target of your Target" so we could concentrate on one enemy at the time, but it was futile.
3 of the players were from one guild and they had this arrogant "we know what we are doing", "there is no reason to play it calm and strategically", "we're mega pros!" attitude.
We wiped twice at the third boss and they decided to go to bed. It was everybody's fault, but theirs.

Reminded me why I stopped enjoying tanking for randoms. Classic is hard, dungeons are unforgiving and shitty designed. You have to play it cool and slow, in the beginning.

Questing on the other side is surprisingly fun. Modern WoW leveling is like running downhill, wrapped in cushions, while a huge ventilator is giving you extra boost. Classic WoW is fighting an uphill battle, it's unforgiving, badly designed, sometimes even unfair, but it is 1000x times more fun. Why? Because reaching a new level, crafting something new, training a new skill (and being able to afford it) feels like you won and defeated the system. Reaching a new level in modern WoW feels like getting one of those "you participated" medals. It's meaningless.
The problem is: Classic WoW leveling is fun for the "first" time, playing your third twink is twisting your mind. The game isn't good and I'm enjoying the leveling process more than in most other "modern" mmos.
(Besides FF 14 Online and the old SW:Tor, both have their own unique merits).

And yes, older mmos were even more brutal and unforgiving. I wish they'd still exist, with good story telling and a couple modern functions for grouping.
Too bad EQ next was canceled. I was looking forward to it.
 
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Samson

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I just want to get hyped for mmos again. The last couple of years have been a rollercoaster of emotions. I played ArcheAge pre 1.0 in Korea and it was legit the best mmo (from a gameplay and systems perspective) that I've played up to that point. Then they fucked it up in Korea and the west got the shitty version. FFXIV ARR was neat from an immersion and world perspective but after hitting 50 the annoying "gather parts for that weapon endgame" thingy ruined the fun for me and my friends. BDO was freaking gorgeous and the world felt believable with all the workers running about and the cities bustling with people and npcs but the game was an ultimately shallow experience.

Give me a good mmo again :loudly-crying-face:
Assuming you're talking about relic weapons, this content should be ignored by everyone except the most hardcore of players.

If you have absolutely run every part of the FFXIV story, are up to date on all of the raids, alliance raids, seasonal events, optional dungeons and everything else (which most people aren't), and like how the relic weapons look, sure do that stuff. But otherwise, they're not usually even BiS, since the Savage drops are better, and they're just a time-sink for players e-peen. Don't let that drive you from the game.
 

EdwardTivrusky

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Zepla posted this on her discord. All you FFXIV players dabbling in WOW Classic have probably had the same thoughts.


She is a punny bunny.
 
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Cordelia

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Still can't decide on tank glamours. DRK AF4 is awesome but can only be used by DRK.....

Already done leveling DRK and WAR, almost done with PLD, and GNB next. JFC GNB has a lot of skills.

In the meantime have a picture of my sleeping cat.


 

Fluffynov

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That's an optional content :thinking-blob: people did it just for fashion :thinking-blob:

I also missed good MMO. I missed being able to have the fresh feeling in enjoying the world and leveling process.

Btw Guild Wars 2 is in a lot of mess these days lol.
Has it always been like that? I played the game at launch and all I remember is that after finishing the story all that's left to do was primals and that weapon quest.
 

Cordelia

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Has it always been like that? I played the game at launch and all I remember is that after finishing the story all that's left to do was primals and that weapon quest.
You are correct if it at launch. But now we have three expansions worth of contents so there are a lot of contents to do. Relic weapons is not always the strongest weapons that you can obtain and it's a lot of works just to make onee so people just did it for fashion,
 
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Fluffynov

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You are correct if it at launch. But now we have three expansions worth of contents so there are a lot of contents to do. Relic weapons is not always the strongest weapons that you can obtain and it's a lot of works just to make onee so people just did it for fashion,
Oh yeah I know about the expansions, obviously, but getting back to an MMO has almost never worked out for me. Tried it with BDO a month ago and it's just too much work. There's so much new stuff that I'd have to read up on and learn about that I usually just dabble in the game a couple of days before abandoning it again. That's why I'm yearning for a completely new mmo that (hopefully) will keep me and my friends engaged for longer than say 3 months.
 

Overture

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I think I'm about to jump in for the 4th time (FFXIV)... everything is sounding good about this game nowadays, but those initial dozens of hours have been so hard to get past. Every time I jump in again I start another character because I barely remember anything, so I think I'm just adding fuel to the fire... Maybe I'll continue my highest lvl character, even if I don't remember anything about the story.
 

ezodagrom

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I think I'm about to jump in for the 4th time (FFXIV)... everything is sounding good about this game nowadays, but those initial dozens of hours have been so hard to get past. Every time I jump in again I start another character because I barely remember anything, so I think I'm just adding fuel to the fire... Maybe I'll continue my highest lvl character, even if I don't remember anything about the story.
Hmm, the ARR part of the game is gonna get an overhaul and some of the fluff is apparently going to be trimmed in version 5.3 (which should be sometime around late spring/early summer next year, maybe?).
 
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Samson

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I think I'm about to jump in for the 4th time (FFXIV)... everything is sounding good about this game nowadays, but those initial dozens of hours have been so hard to get past. Every time I jump in again I start another character because I barely remember anything, so I think I'm just adding fuel to the fire... Maybe I'll continue my highest lvl character, even if I don't remember anything about the story.
If you do restart, my advice is to mostly just spam the MSQ as fast as your level allows.

Unless you need some EXP from them to advance, skip the side stuff and just stay on track. And when the backtracking gets bad, don't mess around with walking everywhere manually. Just spend the Gil to transport.

AAR is a slog, but I really think people let themselves get bogged down by cheaping out on transport fees and trying to complete too many sidequests to fuel their completionist habits.
 
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