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Aelphaeis Mangarae

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When I read this bit I immediately thought of those digital molecular matter tech demos.

It always boils down to workflow. The reason this tech, and Euphoria physics/animation never took off in the games industry is because they were painful to integrate into your game. Euphoria was/is especially bad. Supposedly you didn't integrate Euphoria. You gave your source code to them, and the tiny number of people who know how to use Euphoria properly would implement it. It goes without saying that most companies are not super chill with the idea of sending their game to another company to get a completely unmaintainable spaghetti code-slash-black-box physics system attached to its body with rusty nails.
 

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Here's something nice.

Few devs from Mumbai, India have made an Artillery based RTS called Miner's Mettel. And it looks really good.





Steam :-

Made post about it too
 

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Should I play Xcom 2 with or without War of the Chosen ? Is it that good ? Doesn't it add too much difficulty to the game (a little overwhelmed when I read new classes, new enemies etc...). I seem to recall it being seen as a must have.



Cool, I bought a key for war of the chosen but steam keep telling me it is on my wishlist (is not anymore). It's still listed in my DLC so I'm not too fussed, but I really have to stop buying keys.

Oh, and when I tried to restore my ipad to working order (I couldn't) I nuked my Steam Guard app.
 
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Should I play Xcom 2 with or without War of the Chosen ? Is it that good ? Doesn't it add too much difficulty to the game (a little overwhelmed when I read new classes, new enemies etc...). I seem to recall it being seen as a must have.



Cool, I bought a key for war of the chosen but steam keep telling me it is on my wishlist (is not anymore). It's still listed in my DLC so I'm not too fussed, but I really have to stop buying keys.

Oh, and when I tried to restore my ipad to working order (I couldn't) I nuked my Steam Guard app.
The only unfortunate part about WOTC is that they never officially made a long war mod for it. But if you don't care about that, play it with WOTC!
 

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The only unfortunate part about WOTC is that they never officially made a long war mod for it. But if you don't care about that, play it with WOTC!
Play vanilla with WOTC first. Then you can justd isable WOTC (just choose the base game on launcher) with long war mod.
 
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Wasn't there a Long War 2 ? Was it for XCOM 1 ?

Edit - Oh, I get it ? They made a Long War 2 not compatible with WOTC ?
 
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Really weird, MS showed actual games and everyone was like meh, but here’s a tech demo and everyone is excited. Excuse me but wtf
Does a tech demo (for a game that may or may not ever get released) count as gameplay?


By the way those that have RDR2 on Steam, after I launch the game do I get asked to make a rockstar account? Or how does all of that work because I want to load the game as fast as possible to see how it runs on my PC just in case there are any issues and I need to refund the game.


By the way do we have a thread where people share screenshots of games regardless of the platform?
 

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Really weird, MS showed actual games and everyone was like meh, but here’s a tech demo and everyone is excited. Excuse me but wtf
MS showed games but not enough gameplay or barely any of it, all they showed was narrative or story telling ones. A supposed tech demo that's passing off as "gameplay" would generate more hype and discussion compared to any of the trailers MS showed. Honestly the only things I liked for this summer game fest thingy was Scorn (no new gameplay even after all these years, just that it's gotten console support from MS and a narrative trailer) and THPS1+2 remake. Everything else was boring.
 

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Does a tech demo (for a game that may or may not ever get released) count as gameplay?
Nope
MS showed games but not enough gameplay or barely any of it, all they showed was narrative or story telling ones. A supposed tech demo that's passing off as "gameplay" would generate more hype and discussion compared to any of the trailers MS showed. Honestly the only things I liked for this summer game fest thingy was Scorn (no new gameplay even after all these years, just that it's gotten console support from MS and a narrative trailer) and THPS1+2 remake. Everything else was boring.
I dunno, I thoroughly enjoyed the xbox thingy. Their only mistake was to hype up the AssViking ‘gameplay’
 
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All this talk about engines, SSDs and teraflops (on other forums) really makes me miss the old PS2 console years.
You know, when there were boatloads of games being released, a lot of them AA or even A quality. When you could go to a game store blind and just have a look around and find some gem.

Nowadays, game development is so expensive they release about 5 AAA games total for each console, and half of them are Call Of Dutys.

PC is really were the smaller games at least have a chance of prospering, and some really cool new gameplay is being created.

If you think about it, hasn't a lot of new innovations originated on the PC the last decade?
The "build what you want" genre thanks to Minecraft, survival thanks to the DayZ mod, Battle Royale (bleh) thanks to PUBG and Fortnite.

Meanwhile, consoles have more pioneered the "always be climbing", "walk slowly while talking" and "squeeze through tight spaces" gameplay.

Hyperbole, I know, but isn't there at least a grain of truth that a lot of the innovations are birthed on PC and then spread throughout the industry?
 

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All UE5 threads on Reddit somehow become Steam vs EGS threads lol.
All this talk about engines, SSDs and teraflops (on other forums) really makes me miss the old PS2 console years.
You know, when there were boatloads of games being released, a lot of them AA or even A quality. When you could go to a game store blind and just have a look around and find some gem.

Nowadays, game development is so expensive they release about 5 AAA games total for each console, and half of them are Call Of Dutys.

PC is really were the smaller games at least have a chance of prospering, and some really cool new gameplay is being created.

If you think about it, hasn't a lot of new innovations originated on the PC the last decade?
The "build what you want" genre thanks to Minecraft, survival thanks to the DayZ mod, Battle Royale (bleh) thanks to PUBG and Fortnite.

Meanwhile, consoles have more pioneered the "always be climbing", "walk slowly while talking" and "squeeze through tight spaces" gameplay.

Hyperbole, I know, but isn't there at least a grain of truth that a lot of the innovations are birthed on PC and then spread throughout the industry?
Hey we have Nintendo for it. They have weakass hardware than their competitors but made it up with software. Nintendo's first parties aren't that impressive graphic/performance wise but they sold more than Sony's.
 

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Really weird, MS showed actual games and everyone was like meh, but here’s a tech demo and everyone is excited. Excuse me but wtf
I guess because a tech demo is not actual gameplay and instead influences your imagination on how actual gameplay/visuals will look like?
Like, omg imagine every next gen game will use this tech and make lots and lots of awesome things with it!
Until the games come out and they won't reflect the tech demo, but you can just say I mean what did you expect, it was just a tech demo,
So, because it's nothing concrete it's more interesting then something concrete since it lets you imagine things will be much cooler than the concrete things you saw (they won't).
Does that make sense?
 

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Oh look, SE updated the DQ Builders 2 banner with review scores, must be to entice more buyers. They're probably wondering why the game is not selling well so far.



I wonder why...

After a few sales (Will this thing ever go as low as $20USD?) Maybe things will start to look up.


I would like for them to release DQB1 on PC as well and it's something that I wish that they had thought about in the past.


Also the demo might be why some people have not picked up the full game per say. Since the demo itself can be considered to have 20 hours with of content since it has the first island and that alone is roughly 30% of the game. Depending on the way that you slice it you could just keep playing that demo and not play the full game.



And ya those region prices seem very high
 

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All this talk about engines, SSDs and teraflops (on other forums) really makes me miss the old PS2 console years.
You know, when there were boatloads of games being released, a lot of them AA or even A quality. When you could go to a game store blind and just have a look around and find some gem.

Nowadays, game development is so expensive they release about 5 AAA games total for each console, and half of them are Call Of Dutys.

PC is really were the smaller games at least have a chance of prospering, and some really cool new gameplay is being created.

If you think about it, hasn't a lot of new innovations originated on the PC the last decade?
The "build what you want" genre thanks to Minecraft, survival thanks to the DayZ mod, Battle Royale (bleh) thanks to PUBG and Fortnite.

Consoles have more pioneered the "always be climbing", "walk slowly while talking" and "squeeze through tight spaces" gameplay in the meanwhile.

Hyperbole, I know, but isn't there at least a grain of truth that a lot of the innovations are birthed on PC and then spread throughout the industry?
Gaming exploding into the mainstream did wonders in some regards, and absolutely fucked up other ones. Everything has to be an absolute million seller or else it is a catastrophe. There’s no good in being good enough anymore. Just look at the output of Atlus as a publisher then and now. Absolutely pathetic, and there’s a big ass company backing them now!

anyway, consoles back then were interesting because PCs were expensive and lets be honest, things only nerds used on their free time. They were engineering gems in their own way, even the bad ones. Nowadays they’re just toned down PCs, which is fine I guess but if so why not just buy a PC instead.

For me the only recent interesting console is the Switch.
 

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All this talk about engines, SSDs and teraflops (on other forums) really makes me miss the old PS2 console years.
You know, when there were boatloads of games being released, a lot of them AA or even A quality. When you could go to a game store blind and just have a look around and find some gem.

Nowadays, game development is so expensive they release about 5 AAA games total for each console, and half of them are Call Of Dutys.

PC is really were the smaller games at least have a chance of prospering, and some really cool new gameplay is being created.

If you think about it, hasn't a lot of new innovations originated on the PC the last decade?
The "build what you want" genre thanks to Minecraft, survival thanks to the DayZ mod, Battle Royale (bleh) thanks to PUBG and Fortnite.

Meanwhile, consoles have more pioneered the "always be climbing", "walk slowly while talking" and "squeeze through tight spaces" gameplay.

Hyperbole, I know, but isn't there at least a grain of truth that a lot of the innovations are birthed on PC and then spread throughout the industry?
I think it's because of how HD development last gen was so disastrous to many companies and now they are basically trying to be as safe as possible except in a few cases like Dreams and Ring Fit Adventure. For consoles you need a development kit to put anything on them and I dunno how much they cost, but surely they're not as low priced as Steam $100 or even Epic paying for you to put it on their platforms. And I agree with NarohDethan , gaming being really big made stockholders these days expect developers to make 10+ million sellers and you can't make an experimental niche game if you're one flop away from being laid off. Everything has to be decided by a committee or focus tested to death and barely any originality behind them.
 

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I would be more interested in say, another physical media format. If you told people in 1994 that in 2020 we would still be using disc shaped things to play console games, they might lose faith in the future.
 

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Looks like Legrand Legacy giveaway is still running.

Instructions for those confused:
1. A bot will send you a captcha message. Answer it correctly and you will see a new channel pop up: #swear-allegiance
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3. You have now verified that you are human, a bunch of new channels pop up
4. Go to #lootbox and send !getkey
5. Enjoy your free game
 

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Hey we have Nintendo for it. They have weakass hardware than their competitors but made it up with software. Nintend
Everything has to be an absolute million seller or else it is a catastrophe.
I think it's because of how HD development last gen was so disastrous to many companies and now they are basically trying to be as safe as possible except in a few cases like Dreams and Ring Fit Adventure.
Yeah, Nintendo at least tries to do something new, even if they are trapped under expectations on all their old franchises.

The HD era was really disastrous for innovation. Everything cost too much to make, and as you all said, had to be designed for the mass market.

Reminds me of how disappointed I became in GTA IV, when Rockstar proclaimed that all the old characters from the earlier games were discarded as uninteresting to separate the new HD games.
For someone whose favorite GTA was Vice City, and I always appreciated the various nods between the games, to hear that all that didn't matter anymore, since everything was more "serious" now (it wasn't).

And the GTA games seems to have largely forgotten what made them fun over the years. As an example, see what they did to the character of Lazlo (who for some reason, actually was kept between the eras). He started out as an sarcastic regular Joe in a crazy world, and ended up a caricature of himself...

Wild tangent, I know. 🙈
 

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Should I play Xcom 2 with or without War of the Chosen ? Is it that good ? Doesn't it add too much difficulty to the game (a little overwhelmed when I read new classes, new enemies etc...). I seem to recall it being seen as a must have.
I'm playing XCOM2 with War of the Chosen for the first time now. Yes it's hard, but definitely doable. The new classes and enemies are really, really good.
 

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Really weird, MS showed actual games and everyone was like meh, but here’s a tech demo and everyone is excited. Excuse me but wtf
Because, and I'm sorry to say so, but graphics are that important in this business and what sells hardware (GPUs & Consoles) in the end. A brand new, next gen labeled triple A game needs to be as shiny as possible for the important mass market appeal.
Second factor (imo) is inspiration and imagination. People see awesome graphics and immediately start "dreaming" about the future, making up possibilities and hyping up each other. That's more powerful than any factual gameplay you can show them. Never forget, we are in a world where how you feel about something is more important than anything else.
 

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I saw this when I opened Uplay just now. It's actually quite neat and useful for the average users.



The videos:
  • PART 1: HOW DOES A CPU WORK?
  • PART 2: WHAT DOES A CPU DO?
  • PART 3: CPU SPEED EXPLAINED
  • PART 4: HOW YOUR CPU DOES MORE THINGS AT ONCE
 
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Oh shit, we gonna need threadripper class levels of CPUs at the end of next gen.
This does strike me as the industry priming users to buy beefier CPUs or migrate to the cloud (which is what Ubisoft specifically would rather people do). But maybe I'm cynical.
 
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When I was a wee lad I really thought in 2020 we'd at least be using some transparent holographic cube to store and transport data.
I mean, it's 2020, that's straight-up science fiction territory.

Oh shit, we gonna need threadripper class levels of CPUs at the end of next gen.
I expect that by that time you'll be able to get a 16 core CPU for <250€ FWIW.
The advancement there has been very substantial, who would have thought 3 years ago that you could now get a high-end 12 core processor for <450€?
 

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While the RDR2 benchmark is not the best way to test your PC per say I was able to get an average of 44fps at 1440p on a mix of medium to very high settings. Which settings are the most taxing again?

The lowest that it went was 33fps and the highest it went was 60fps.


I think I might end up installing EGS on my PC (I did have it installed at one point but later on I uninstalled it) so that I can play GTA V seeing how that is going to be free tomorrow. My sister has been asking me if she can play GTA V on my PC and seeing how I can just get it for free sort of a thing I might just do that.

By the way so is the EGS thing just going to keep on adding to GTA V's numbers and make it "sell" even more copies along with Witcher 3?
 

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When I was a wee lad I really thought in 2020 we'd at least be using some transparent holographic cube to store and transport data.
I mean, it's 2020, that's straight-up science fiction territory.
Not going to lie, at early 2000's I thought data would be indeed storaged in cubes like the ones you said because some stupid documentary that talked about the concept, and yes, it feels REALLY disappointing :blobweary:
 

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Data is now stored in the cloud though, and we can already play without having to resort to physical discs.

Though tbf, cloud gaming is not there yet atm.
 

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I upgrade my internet connection from 300 mbit to 600 mbit. Still same price as I paid before

Super fast internet!!
As someone who just got 1gb internet after spending years on public wifi, its bloody amazing! Just having the ability to spontaneously try out a game without the download time being an issue at all, like last night I got a craving for My Time at Portia and to download took just a minute!
 

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I think I might end up installing EGS on my PC (I did have it installed at one point but later on I uninstalled it) so that I can play GTA V seeing how that is going to be free tomorrow. My sister has been asking me if she can play GTA V on my PC and seeing how I can just get it for free sort of a thing I might just do that.
iirc you dont need EGS to play it beyond the activation in RGL , so ultimately only just for initial download and first activation (same how Ubi stuff works there)

By the way so is the EGS thing just going to keep on adding to GTA V's numbers and make it "sell" even more copies along with Witcher 3?
they need bigger user number to show when courting publishers i guesss
 
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Somewhat excited to see Ghost of Tsushima today, but I don't think I will get the game day 1, but rather wait for a sale. I have no idea why Im far from as interested in GoT as I am in TLOU 2 which I have pre-ordered. Could change today, but right no my interest is on the lower-end.
 
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Oh look, SE updated the DQ Builders 2 banner with review scores, must be to entice more buyers. They're probably wondering why the game is not selling well so far.



I wonder why...
yeah, it's a real mystery

i'm sure they have their top men working on it ... top ... men!

I upgrade my internet connection from 300 mbit to 600 mbit. Still same price as I paid before

Super fast internet!!
As someone who just got 1gb internet after spending years on public wifi, its bloody amazing! Just having the ability to spontaneously try out a game without the download time being an issue at all, like last night I got a craving for My Time at Portia and to download took just a minute!
i hate you both! :disapproval-blob:
 
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