Community MetaSteam | September 2020 - An Offer You Definitively Can't Refuse

[Kyougar]

80 euros is a lot of money for a single game.

"Everyone" claims that games (and consoles) didn't adjust for inflation in over a decade and it was time for the prices to rise.
What "everyone" forgets, is that the growth of the gaming market in the last two decades was BECAUSE gaming got more affordable. Raising prices to adjust for inflation will lose several customers who are not willing to pay for those prices (or can't justify/afford them).

It is a big mistake and it will prove that it is more and more the right thing to not buy on release day and wait for sales.
I could see the overarching strategy for Microsoft in raising retail/digital prices, they have GamePass and it makes sense for them to funnel customers into that ecosystem. but Sony?

 

[warp_]

what a wild day for console fanboys lol

 

[Stone Ocean]

US prices exclude state sales taxes but as they're under 10% it doesn't matter much so, yup but then i dread to think what they'll cost in places like Brasil where most games are already stupid expensive anyway.

kio
Sony:

It's going to be like 400 BRL

Thank god for Steam, otherwise I would fly the Jolly Roger again

 

[Eferis]

I always assumed (maybe mistakenly) that the current 59,99 EUR price tag for AAA PC games was due to the 1:1 conversion with the 59,99 USD price tag both on console and PC. If I'm right and the standard price becomes 69,99 USD we're probably fucked.

 

[d00d3n]

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[AHA-Lambda]

Ok hear me out

both premium variants of the PS5 and Xbox are the same price
But the budget variant Xbox is £110 cheaper than the budget PS5
AND Xbox has Game Pass as a considerable value add which PS doesn’t have

Considering how price sensitive the mainstream console market is, and most people just want a box that will play the games they want to play, I really think this gen is for MS to take unless they seriously screw up something

and fair play to them, MS has been making far more interesting moves than Sony for a while now

 

[toxicitizen]

The cool thing about the price increase for games is that, on top of the CAD price already being at an insane 80$, it makes me exponentially less likely to buy games at launch/full price. And the longer you wait for a game, the easier it gets to just wait longer for a deeper sale. I still haven't played REmake 3 and Doom Eternal and at this rate, I won't until they drop to sub 20$ lol.

 

[EdwardTivrusky]

kio
"Well, Saint Hirai. I was in hospital having a Kidney operation and there was this PS5 game i really wanted and... yeah. Sorry."

 

[lashman]

 

[Swenhir]

Well, accounting for something like 21% tax which is typical in europe, the 70$ base price becomes 84.5$, coming to around 71.07€.

BUT OF COURSE THEN IT BECOMES 80€ for reasons beyond our mortal understanding.

 

[fspm]

70$=70£=80€
Fuck off.

$10 is a ray tracing tax, taxes are higher in EU that's why E80

Spoiler

Do you want a kidney aswell? Or my first born son?

Sony: 'Why don't we have both'

 

[fantomena]

You know something?

 

[EdwardTivrusky]

lashman Honest, guv. Would i lie to you?

 

[Alextended]

You never needed proprietary cables for the Quest 1 either.

I wasn't implying otherwise, it's the strictly PC VR kits that have proprietary cables that combine USB and HDMI and stuff, like my CV1 and I'm pretty sure all the others are similar rather than have two separate cables you could feasably replace on your own when they get worn out with all that VR movement (although for CV1 the problem is the end that goes to the headset I guess, maybe Index has solved it by literally just combining regular HDMI and USB cables as 2 in 1 so that any third party manufacturer could easily make them if there was a market for them or people could even just use separate HDMI and USB cables?).

 

[fantomena]

My PS5 purchased literally hinges on if a PC version will come in the future. If anyone have any info, now would be the time.

 

[NarohDethan]

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[Dekunator]

God damn you Sony

 

[warp_]

remember when death stranding pc was incorrect and it was definitely an exclusive?

 

[BoosterDuck]

I'll stick to my superior soulsborne game

Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order

 

[texhnolyze]

Of course it was a mistake, it's uploaded in their Playstation account.

 

[sanhora]

it's all so tiresome

 

[beep boop]

Ok hear me out

both premium variants of the PS5 and Xbox are the same price
But the budget variant Xbox is £110 cheaper than the budget PS5
AND Xbox has Game Pass as a considerable value add which PS doesn’t have

Considering how price sensitive the mainstream console market is, and most people just want a box that will play the games they want to play, I really think this gen is for MS to take unless they seriously screw up something

and fair play to them, MS has been making far more interesting moves than Sony for a while now

If I was still considering consoles or if Microsoft bequeathed a cutting-edge handheld unto us, I would be all over Xbox right now. They've been making all the right decisions so far (where it matters to me), outside a less than stellar first-party showing -- game pass (ultimate), robust backwards compatibility, peripherals/controller backwards compatibility, Xbox all-access is a huge deal if it's available in your region, smart delivery, etc.

 

[EdwardTivrusky]

There's a media manager at Sony getting their buns roasted at this very moment.

 

[guhguh222444]

What the actual fuck is going on lmao, how did tonight's event go from no-BBR disappointment to the greatest consolewar shitshow and confusion since Death Stranding?

 

[warp_]

maybe they just kinda threw something together quickly because microsoft dropped everything at once?

 

[Arsene]

it's all so tiresome

Trailer says "Running on PC emulating PS5 hardware" on both stream and upload so press X to doubt

 

[Dekunator]

Whelp, tonight was a shit show. Gonna go grind MHW for a few hours until I pass out and hope Nintendo's conference is good tomorrow. At least I don't have any PC expectations with Nintendo games.

 

[Cacher]

Tbh, I wouldn't worry if FFXVI or DeS were coming to PC. I think they will come eventually. We just don't know when.

 

[yuraya]

If I was still considering consoles or if Microsoft bequeathed a cutting-edge handheld unto us, I would be all over Xbox right now. They've been making all the right decisions so far (where it matters to me), outside a less than stellar first-party showing -- game pass (ultimate), robust backwards compatibility, peripherals/controller backwards compatibility, Xbox all-access is a huge deal if it's available in your region, smart delivery, etc.

Honestly I am more hyped for new Fable + Avowed than I am for Horizon 2 + God of War 2.

Naughty Dog is really the stand out difference for Sony because of the style of game they make. We will see what the Initiative does with the rumored Perfect Dark game but everything else is pretty even across the board. Coalition + 343 pretty much same as Sucker Punch + Bend.

Its pretty even imo. At least as even as its ever been between the 2. Obsidian and Playground were great additions for MS. Its exactly what they needed.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Zero chance FFXVI won't hit PC eventually. No need to worry about that one.

 

[Arsene]

I hate everything

 

[EdwardTivrusky]

Well, Sony want to sell PS5s so i was surprised to see PC mentioned at all at the PS5 Show.

 

[Mivey]

To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised to see more or less all Sony first parties ported to PC somewhere down the line, albeit near the tail-end of the console's lifetime.
To be specific, I'd expect more and more PS4 exclusives to drop, but PS5 ones wouldn't make much sense for Sony right now.

 

[MonthOLDpickle]

texhnolyze So does parsec support WoL and out of LAN play?

 

[QFNS]

Whelp looks like Sony deconfirmed all the PC ports which means we gotta wait a year or two for them.

Back to ignoring this stuff and playing Spelunky in prep for Spelunky 2

 

[NarohDethan]

If anything this PS5 just reaffirmed my desire for a 3080 lmao

 

[toxicitizen]

I hate everything

LMAO It's like they looked at all the confusion with their box labeling regarding exclusivity and went "We can do worse than this!"

 

[fantomena]

At this point I legit need to see footage from the PC version of Bloodborne for me to believe it's real.

There's not even a remastered PS5 version announced.

 

[prudis]

they were never really confirming anything PC related on console price reveal show
get real

 

[Line]

Because the confusion is the point.
You have people wondering. People happy that their plastic box is winning bigly. People that will watch the trailer and not realize that it's coming to PC.

It's newspeak, and it's been a constant from Sony those last few years.
It's not like anyone will say anything once the deals end. They will still be Amazing Sony Playstation Number One For The Gamers, etc.

 

[EdwardTivrusky]

toxicitizen Sony saw the clicks the IGN Xbox BC Confusion tweet got and thought, we can do that ourselves. no middle-man required.

 

[fantomena]

they were never really confirming anything PC related on console price reveal show
get real

I know that, problem is that the PS5 version hasn't even been announced.

 

[prudis]

it was in the sizzle real

 

[guhguh222444]

I know that, problem is that the PS5 version hasn't even been announced.

Yeah, it's the lack of a PS5 remaster announcement for a supposed launch title that's concerning.

 

[fantomena]

it was in the sizzle real

Im fairly sure it's just the PS4 version running in bc mode on PS5, maybe some "boost" added by the hardware it self.

The rumored PS5 version was suppose to bring more stuff like 60 fps.

 

[texhnolyze]

texhnolyze So does parsec support WoL and out of LAN play?

I've never heard of those terms and never used it. Sounds interesting.

Anyway, after some more readings, people said that Moonlight is pretty good too, but it requires Nvidia Gamestream (via GeForce Experience).

 

[Routa]

Tbh, I wouldn't worry if FFXVI or DeS were coming to PC. I think they will come eventually. We just don't know when.

The backtracking on both definitely makes me think they are just obfuscating information, like what happened with Death Stranding.

"Oh this isn't coming to PC"

"launches on PS4"

"one week later"

"It's coming to PC"

 

[guhguh222444]

The backtracking on both definitely makes me think they are just obfuscating information, like what happened with Death Stranding.

Yep.

Same old Sony song and dance.

 

[Cacher]

The backtracking on both definitely makes me think they are just obfuscating information, like what happened with Death Stranding.

"Oh this isn't coming to PC"

"launches on PS4"

"one week later"

"It's coming to PC"

Agree

 

[beep boop]

It seems like a genuine mistake. The same wording was on the new Final Fantasy, I believe. Probably copied and pasted the wrong closing segment. Otherwise we also have to presume it's coming to other consoles. A timed PS5 exclusive and eventually Ps4? Or Xbox? Neither seem likely.