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Prodigy

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When I say you should follow a guide for P5R to unlock the added content, it's as simple as prioritizing 3 people at max. If you really want to be super efficient you can check the best dialogs for these 3 people on one of the myriad internet guides.

That's all. You absolutely don't want to follow any day by day guide.
Yeah that's my plan, I've looked up the 3 characters who I need to prioritize to certain levels. Everything else will be more by my gut feeling. I feel if I use a guide for each day, then I may as well watch someones playthrough.
 

Li Kao

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Fuck me, here is my personal guide for P5R, I didn't want to post it because in the course of my run I may have modified it, don't take it as gospel.

When you can, you prioritize going out with those people, and you must be at this target relationship level by that date.
Goro Akechi [DEADLINE - Rank 8 by November 24]
Takuto Maruki [DEADLINE - Rank 9 by November 17]
Kasumi Yoshizawa [DEADLINE - Rank 5 by November 18]

Please check here and here :
 

Li Kao

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Okay, Okay!

I'll redownload P5R and give it another shot.

Bloody weebs.
Eh, given my terrible burn out of it, I'm not sure it is the outcome I aimed for :thinking-blob:

But yeah, enjoy yourself and only aim for the 3 people. You can also couple that essential with guides for tests and crosswords, because fuck that noise.
 
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Kyougar

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This is the way to do it if you want to unlock specific endings.

Following a day-by-day guide in a Persona game is antithetical to the experience. These aren't games meant to be min-maxed.

That said, if you do one single playthrough of each "modern" Persona game you should aim to just enjoy what's there rather than feeling some weird urge to experience all the "content", because the first (and possibly only) playthrough should be about the vibes, the aesthetics, and the journey from the start of the in-game year to the end.

I think if you're obsessed with unlocking everything in one playthrough, especially your first, you're missing what makes the games special.

In real life we can't do everything we want to do given the time constraints of school, jobs, and unplanned events, and a Persona game is designed to be a lot like that.

And in the end, I don't see building up your social stats and S.Links as any different than having to choose stats for your character in an RPG, and if you were able to max out every stat for your build you'd be horribly overpowered.

I don't like to say "you're playing it wrong" because everyone enjoys a game in their own way, but I think if you go into a Persona game for the first time with the mindset that you need to unlock everything, I think you're actually missing more than you're getting.
Correct, although I would make an asterisk on the point about the comparison between social links/social stats and stats in an RPG. In most RPG's you can't max all stats in a playthrough, you can in Persona games, which makes it "mandatory" to max it out for some players.
The games would be better if you can't max out social links and have to make the decision of which to pursue.
And have meaningful social interactions AFTER maxing out a character. Currently you are done with a character after maxing social links and have no meaningful interactions that are not group gatherings or meaningless activities with no impact.
 

Li Kao

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Correct, although I would make an asterisk on the point about the comparison between social links/social stats and stats in an RPG. In most RPG's you can't max all stats in a playthrough, you can in Persona games, which makes it "mandatory" to max it out for some players.
This is true only for hardcore guide players or replay. How on earth can someone do a full social link is beyond me. And frankly I don't envy them.

And have meaningful social interactions AFTER maxing out a character. Currently you are done with a character after maxing social links and have no meaningful interactions that are not group gatherings or meaningless activities with no impact.
That's a true downside you already mentioned months ago and I thought about it several times since then. It's a real weak point I'm not sure they could correct unless they make significant changes to the formula.
 
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tetel

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This is true only for hardcore guide players or replay. How on earth can someone do a full social link is beyond me. And frankly I don't envy them
The margin of error in P5R is enormous though, I ran out of interesting things to do in late November or so. Last months were just spamming temple/gym/making coffee. I did some reloading to not waste my days on some unique missable events but that adds up to maybe a week in total?
 
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Li Kao

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The margin of error in P5R is enormous though, I ran out of interesting things to do in late November or so. Last months were just spamming temple/gym/making coffee. I did some reloading to not waste my days on some unique missable events but that adds up to maybe a week in total?
Yeah, P5R is really more forgiving than the other games in the franchise. Still, I didn't exactly sit on my arse and am far from maxed out SS.
 

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It also depends on how much you go fighting monsters.
The "meta" is to only go two times for every palace. Maximizing your stay.
In P3 Fes, I got to Tartarus when I felt like it for how long I wanted.
 

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Tempted to buy a Deck with the current discount....
It worths full price, provided that you like playing on a handheld.
It's pretty fun these days! I tried it in 3-player Co-op and it seemed to run pretty well. Not sure how it does in just single-player personally or if it scales back encounters with less players, but enjoy!
I played it a bit when it went on free weekend 2 years ago. I remember it was pretty fun! I will only play it solo so let's see how the experience is.
 

PhaZZe

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Fuck me, here is my personal guide for P5R, I didn't want to post it because in the course of my run I may have modified it, don't take it as gospel.

When you can, you prioritize going out with those people, and you must be at this target relationship level by that date.
Goro Akechi [DEADLINE - Rank 8 by November 24]
Takuto Maruki [DEADLINE - Rank 9 by November 17]
Kasumi Yoshizawa [DEADLINE - Rank 5 by November 18]

Please check here and here :
Completed persona 5 royal yesterday, just followed those 3 relationship and always say no (you will knew when). it was amazing.

it was a blast, so many qol over persona 4, still prefer persona 4, dont know why.
 
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When I played P5R last year I found an algorithm on reddit, that was prioritize X, if X is not available do Y and if not do Z (like 6 or 7 points total) and it gave me enough room to max out everything and have time to spare.

That doesn't change the fact that the game drags on for too long, and has the JRPG problem of constanly repeating stuff (because the game assumes the player will forget it) and you could cut half the dialog and nothing would be change.
 
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rickyson33

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If a game is good, I don't mind playing it for 200 hours.
Depends though. I've been playing Witcher 3 for maybe 100hrs and almost done with it. I do think 200hrs is a LOT more than one thinks. That 100hrs on Witcher 3 is over like 5-6 months lol.
personally speaking I don't mind putting a hundred hours into an RPG if i'm enjoying it but that's also not so far off my upper limit before things start to break down

if i'm like 150 hours into one running around doing side stuff or whatever i'm gonna start getting sick of doing that at that point regardless of how high I think the quality of it is

good news, twitter is as good as dead:


:partyblob:

as someone that basically only used Twitter in the form of a tweetdeck that I essentially used as a newsfeed I would look at every once in a while it just might be dead to me

i'm not really interested in paying a monthly fee for that(although if it was a one time fee I probably would have) and i'm definitely not interested in setting up a feed on the normal website that seeks to do something similar to what I used tweetdeck for
 

Aaron D.

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Yeah that's my plan, I've looked up the 3 characters who I need to prioritize to certain levels. Everything else will be more by my gut feeling. I feel if I use a guide for each day, then I may as well watch someones playthrough.
I'm with you on this one. We all have different playstyles, so there's no right or wrong. But sitting down with a detailed guide on a first playthrough seems so limiting, killing spontaneity & organic discovery.

But in this case, I'm glad I at least read in the Era P5R OT's OP that warned you can completely miss a sizeable chuck of content, the 3rd Semester unique to Royal which clocks in at 30+ hours from what I understand.

Though it says you only need to Max out 1 character (Councillor confidant, Maruki) to get access to the new content,

The other 2 characters are just for the True Ending, which in the age of YouTube seems like a lot railroading when you can just watch the various endings online so easily.

Still though it's crazy that the dev would lock people out of dozens of hours of new content based on some random qualifier that some may never tune into. It's not even that difficult, it's just arbitrary. And if you don't know, you don't know.

So strange.
 

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The DLC takes off where the main game ends in terms of difficulty and mechanics. So wether or not you wanna play it will entirely come down wether or not you are hungry for more
I blame Bruce Timm
 

ezodagrom

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I guess I'm not very smart, I've been using Twitter for years now and I still have no idea what Tweetdeck is.
Pretty much a version of twitter that allows you to have multiple columns side by side.
For example, in my case I had a column just for mutuals, one just for games, one just for vtubers, one for notifications, and so on.
Thanks to the rate limits it's essentially unusable now, making it paywalled is just the nail in the coffin for tweetdeck.
 
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Kyougar

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I guess I'm not very smart, I've been using Twitter for years now and I still have no idea what Tweetdeck is.
same, although my only use for twitter was for new threads on otherforum, any other exposure is through single tweets imbedded into other websites.
 

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Regarding the Persona 5 conversation, ya'll just playing videogames (Or dare i say, approaching life itself even) the wrong.
Instead of living in the moment, enjoying the game, discovering it by yourself, you pre-emptively worry about not successfully maximizing the amount of content you will see, because you worry about having some sort of lesser experience if you don't get to see it all in your first 100% speedrun.

Let's roll this up from a different direction: You didn't get to see the "best" ending on your first playthrough.
So fucking what? Does this lessen the fun you had playing? No it doesn't! And most of all, in the case of persona 5 it'd still be a satisfying ending anyways cuz if you dont get the true ending you still get the vanilla P5 ending, the one that everyone experienced when the game launched.

You just worry about some nondescript "content" and how to obtain this "content" that you cease to enjoy the "content" you already have, kinda defeating the entire purpose, don't you?

It's something really maddening these last few years, wether it's this, difficulty modes, or everything being a fucking spoiler.
Everyones worried so much about "maximizing their fun" of their first (and often only) playthrough that they completely forget to actually have fun and instead treat it like work.
It's videogames mang and not your crushs virginity.

it's the videogame equiavlent of this

 

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Edit: LOOKS LIKE THIS IS FAKE.

Regarding the Persona 5 conversation, ya'll just playing videogames (Or dare i say, approaching life itself even) the wrong.
Instead of living in the moment, enjoying the game, discovering it by yourself, you pre-emptively worry about not successfully maximizing the amount of content you will see, because you worry about having some sort of lesser experience if you don't get to see it all in your first 100% speedrun.

To be honest I think every person here agreed not to use a guide to go through the game day by day.
The thing everyone here agreed on was to level up certain characters so that you don't miss out on an entire term in the game, which is around 30-40hours of content. Totally different than just an ending.
 
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ZKenir

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Regarding the Persona 5 conversation, ya'll just playing videogames (Or dare i say, approaching life itself even) the wrong.
Instead of living in the moment, enjoying the game, discovering it by yourself, you pre-emptively worry about not successfully maximizing the amount of content you will see, because you worry about having some sort of lesser experience if you don't get to see it all in your first 100% speedrun.

Let's roll this up from a different direction: You didn't get to see the "best" ending on your first playthrough.
So fucking what? Does this lessen the fun you had playing? No it doesn't! And most of all, in the case of persona 5 it'd still be a satisfying ending anyways cuz if you dont get the true ending you still get the vanilla P5 ending, the one that everyone experienced when the game launched.

You just worry about some nondescript "content" and how to obtain this "content" that you cease to enjoy the "content" you already have, kinda defeating the entire purpose, don't you?

It's something really maddening these last few years, wether it's this, difficulty modes, or everything being a fucking spoiler.
Everyones worried so much about "maximizing their fun" of their first (and often only) playthrough that they completely forget to actually have fun and instead treat it like work.
It's videogames mang and not your crushs virginity.

it's the videogame equiavlent of this

should have seen my excel spreadsheets as I dominated/flipped the AH WoW back in the day...
 

rickyson33

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personally I usually just use a guide for everything anyways

I got fed up with missable stuff eventually and decided to, it was a gradual thing across a bunch of games but I remember the last straw for me was with tales of vesperia there was some postgame dungeon thing that I couldn't access because I didn't talk to some specific person at a specific time at some point
 
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Man, what the hell?





Not just renaming them to be less identifiable at a glance but they somehow screwed up the one for MGS2 so now the sorting order is all fucked lmao.
I imagine it's an oversight and they'll fix it to be like the others but that's such a needlessly convoluted naming convention. I know it's the fucking Master Collection Volume 1, you don't need to have that in every single game's name, ffs!

Valve really need to let us rename/sort the games in our library locally, already. It's such a basic QoL feature and it's pretty obvious publishers can't be bothered to keep things neat and tidy...
 
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Guides work for some games, but I try to avoid it for games I'm enjoying because if I start following one then I want to follow it 100% and that takes away from the immersion of the game for me.
 
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Man, what the hell?





Not just renaming them to be less identifiable at a glance but they somehow screwed up the one for MGS2 so now the sorting order is all fucked lmao.
I imagine it's an oversight and they'll fix it to be like the others but that's such needlessly convoluted naming convention. I know it's the fucking Master Collection Volume 1, you don't need to have that in every single game's name, ffs!

Valve really need to let us rename/sort the games in our library locally, already. It's such a basic QoL feature and it's pretty obvious publishers can't be bothered to keep things neat and tidy...
I’ve already made a post in the MGS1 Steam forum about it. Fucking wild.
 

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Yeah I skipped too. Also got no discount, but even then I might not have bothered. TemTem is neat, but not an essential I really want to play, and the rest of it doesn't appeal to me at all.

Spacer's Choice edition of The Outer Worlds is garbo too - I haven't been following it much but I haven't heard about any significant updates that improve performance, even for high-end GPUs, so I'll stick to the original.
 

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I'm somewhat tempted to get it for Outer Worlds but including Yakuza 4 when I literally finished it last night sends a strong signal that I probably shouldn't lol.
 
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Great month for me! I don't own any of these...

What's the QRD on Outer Worlds though? I saw some people trash talking the version they are offering here? How come?
Performance issues. Brings a 3090 (or was it 4090?) to its knees.
 
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Madventure

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I mean yes & no for the outer worlds spacers choice being potentially garbage

The most recent update was 7 days ago and reviews saying a lot of the "big" problems have been fixed but it's not like you can get the old version anymore anyways



The "Upgrade" was a cash grab not published by the original developers. The original developers then came back in to fix the shit game/problem fest they made It's on version 1.4 most of the BIG problems apparently got ironed out in patch 1.3 but that's what i've read about it

Should they have never released it? Yeah but


 

toxicitizen

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Me: I don't think I'll buy much this sale

Also me: refunding Nioh 2 cause it's cheaper on Fanatical but might as well also buy Yakuza 7 and Uncharted while I'm here!

I already had Yakuza 7 because a friend gifted it to me a while back but rebuying the Legendary Hero edition was the cheapest (and only) way to get all the DLC. Love it when publishers don't bother to use the bundle feature or offer upgrade paths. :upside-down-face:
 
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