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ZKenir said:
wonder if I should start KH2 in proud or critical mix, feel like I'd be ok with a bit of challenge but not with a chore
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I started my KH2 on critical and then restarted a new file on normal lol.

I loved my proud KH1 playthrough but I strained my deck too much. There was so much difficulty spikes with the Atlantis bs and late game dragon fight it was too much. I'm honestly surprised the buttons survived and you have to give Valve props on the build. I've wrecked multiple PS and Xbox controllers over the years with far less mashing than I did for KH1 on Deck.

But yea doing a more relaxing and chill playthrough of KH2. If it winds up being too easy I will go back to harder difficulty for the rest of the games including KH3.

Btw I'm only a few hours in but KH2 is fantastic so far. The story is a bit confusing as I think I watched 358/2 out of turn. It feels like I should have waited until after KH2 tho maybe things will start to make sense after playing it more. From what I understand the way Square listed them in the main menu is not the actual chronological order.
 

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Anyone here with 4070 and up willing to help me activate Star Wars Outlaws? I forgot that i helped friend and activated some Overwatch promo so now i can't activate Outlaws and i got key for cheap xD
 
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I dunno why, but SW Outlaws looks utterly dull and boring to me, will probably play that and AC Shadows after both have released with a month of Ubi+ or if they get a Steam release.
 
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fantomena said:
Hoping the RTX 5080 isn't too far away, my PC is starting to show some grey hairs.
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I'm unironically expecting a marginal increase in performance compared with the 40 series, akin to what we got going from the 30xx to 40xx, with a significant increase in price and power consumption.
Wish AMD gpus weren't so awful so nvidia had some incentive to do better.
 
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I misread the mod was for KH final mix actually, so it's critical and there is no going back :sweaty-blob:
 
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Something that I'm confused about is Dustborn. People for some reason have mentioned it a few times. They seem to associate it with Sweet baby. I'm confused as to how people even noticed the game but I'm guessing they are only making fun of it because it's published by Quantic Dream?


Why are people dumb and just don't let others enjoy their games in peace? But I will admit the fact the game is getting a physical release must have meant that Quantic Dream had some faith in it doing modestly.

Its an indie game and those don't even get covered by the media often. But then again this one actually has reviews by some well known publications maybe that why people are paying attention to it??

But from the looks of it the game is okay, the main issue is the combat and stuff is not great.

People are making fun of it for having under people at launch? I didn't even know about the game.


I guess some people really have nothing better to do with their time.


Will we ever move beyond this since stuff like this also seems to be talked about with Concord. I watched a video from the beta and I can understand some of the issue that people have with it since some of the game modes are weird with how they lock out who you can use each round.


We no longer play it but video games we just complain about them.
 
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Anyone here with 4070 and up willing to help me activate Star Wars Outlaws? I forgot that i helped friend and activated some Overwatch promo so now i can't activate Outlaws and i got key for cheap xD
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help you activate SW Outlaws how exactly? And why with a 4070 or above?



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I'm confused as to how people even noticed the game (Dustborn)
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Dustborn was made by Red Thread Games, developers of Draugen and Dreamfall Chapters; that alone would give it some publicity – and of course its published by Quantic Dream; that also helps making it more prominent.




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Isn't this Bluepoint CEO?
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Head of Technology, according to the Twitter profile bio
 
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texhnolyze said:
Isn't this Bluepoint CEO?

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that weird jab he snuck in there at the end, which effectively amounts to the tired, old "no politics in my games" is so telling. Those dudes have no issues if the politics are stuff they deem "natural" or "normal", but woe is me when a game has a minority in it and reminds me that the world isn't centered around white male Western people.
 
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Mivey said:
that weird jab he snuck in there at the end, which effectively amounts to the tired, old "no politics in my games" is so telling. Those dudes have no issues if the politics are stuff they deem "natural" or "normal", but woe is me when a game has a minority in it and reminds me that the world isn't centered around white male Western people.
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Don't worry he is in his way to Sony HQ to get Death Stranding 2 canceled or something.
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Mivey said:
that weird jab he snuck in there at the end, which effectively amounts to the tired, old "no politics in my games" is so telling. Those dudes have no issues if the politics are stuff they deem "natural" or "normal", but woe is me when a game has a minority in it and reminds me that the world isn't centered around white male Western people.
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I'm not going to claim to know what he meant by that but I do know I'm tired of every game becoming some kind of cultural fight online. It's not just alt right chuds doing it either, era and their equivalent on twitter also do this shit with nearly every game these days too. They made stellar blade out to be some kind of woman hating porn game all because it had some jiggle physics.

It just gets exhausting after a while. Everything's woke or not woke enough and I want to shoot both groups into the sun.
 
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Derrick01 said:
I'm not going to claim to know what he meant by that but I do know I'm tired of every game becoming some kind of cultural fight online. It's not just alt right chuds doing it either, era and their equivalent on twitter also do this shit with nearly every game these days too. They made stellar blade out to be some kind of woman hating porn game all because it had some jiggle physics.

It just gets exhausting after a while. Everything's woke or not woke enough and I want to shoot both groups into the sun.
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Not wanting to participate in the constant culture war is fine no one is making you read those posts or whatever, but don't try and "both sides are bad for talking about politics" on this. Bad actors are glomming on to spaces where they are being tacitly encouraged or the developers are just being silent. The bad actors then take the silence as victory and run with it. If you want to not deal with it, may I suggest logging off and playing a game instead? Oh no! Wait there are politics in the games too? It's an inescapable part of life.


I just remember that anytime someone is mad about politics in games it's ALWAYS just a cover for saying "I don't like politics I disagree with in games". And then it gives away what the person really means immediately.
 
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The only reason I get pissed off about politics in games is because of the right wing dragging any game they believe to be "WOKE" through the dirt.

I would rather listen to someone telling me that a game should maybe tone down the sexualisation of femail characters, or that have something be set in a pseudo African nation and then not feature a single playable character as a PoC than the right wings constant screaming of RAAAR "this is woke" because reasons.

The right wing do not compare to this as their only intention is oppression of others they don't understand.
 
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Mivey said:
woe is me when a game has a minority in it and reminds me that the world isn't centered around white male Western people.
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He writes that while literally praising a game that "male western people" had nothing to do with and that's in no way about "male western" culture. In fact, Wukong is exactly the kind of diversity we should want more of - games made by people from various countries inspired by/about their cultures.
 
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Derrick01 said:
I'm not going to claim to know what he meant by that but I do know I'm tired of every game becoming some kind of cultural fight online. It's not just alt right chuds doing it either, era and their equivalent on twitter also do this shit with nearly every game these days too. They made stellar blade out to be some kind of woman hating porn game all because it had some jiggle physics.

It just gets exhausting after a while. Everything's woke or not woke enough and I want to shoot both groups into the sun.
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I agree, we should just play fun games without politics like Final Fantasy 7.
 
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Paul said:
He writes that while literally praising a game that "male western people" had nothing to do with and that's in no way about "male western" culture. In fact, Wukong is exactly the kind of diversity we should want more of - games made by people from various countries inspired by/about their cultures.
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We do have that and you have some companies like Toge that are making games about Indonesia. I guess I would have to do some deep digging in order to find out if people have called any of the games they have worked with


Stuff like Wukong is also similar to Stellar Blade where people do take issue with the game, but that also seems to partially be do to the devs past.



In a way the whole Wukong thing is actually kinda unique because western gamers and press don't really are about Chinese games. There have been a number of Chinese games that have released on Steam about China but it's only after they get big that they start to notice. Stuff like Chinese Parent did very well. You also have that one very long established Wuxia series that people didn't even know existed (the fairy one). I have seen some smaller videos game journalist call out others for not covering said games.


Also it seems when it comes to Chinese games in order to get noticed you have to have a very big visually stunning game in order to get noticed or something like that. What about that one solo dev game for PS4. Lost Soul I think was the name? That one was part of Sony's China Hero Project? Which I don't think Wukong was actually a part of anyway (funny)


So people were already attached to the game because of the visuals and gameplay but it also seems to be the "anti woke" thing which is why more western people seem to have attached themselves to the game. Since according to Chinese players "they heard about some controversy about the game but didn't seem to pay too much attention to it to bother to check what the actual controversy was. It has nothing to do with LGBTQ+ stuff."


So even that is sort of BS. The funny thing is that after Wukong it's likely going back to the same thing of Western video games fans not really caring about Chinese games (other than the Gacha ones)


Sorry if my thing is all over the place. Chinese games do get covered and people do play them but it feels like it's only certain ones. Good night.
 
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Line said:
I agree, we should just play fun games without politics like Final Fantasy 7.
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This is such a lame dunk attempt. The games aren't the problem it's gamers.

I also don't consider culture war BS politics. Arguing because this character has a square jaw or that character's boobs jiggles is not interesting or important discussion it's just shit that floods the internet.
 
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Derrick01 said:
This is such a lame dunk attempt. The games aren't the problem it's gamers.

I also don't consider culture war BS politics. Arguing because this character has a square jaw or that character's boobs jiggles is not interesting or important discussion it's just shit that floods the internet.
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You are missing the forest for the trees. When people complain about "woke", 'DEI" stuff, "Sweetbaby", ALL of that comes from far right conspiracy shit and it all is about pushing white supremacy. Sure its culture was BS but to say its not important to be aware off or should be called out isn't the way.
 
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Le Pertti said:
You are missing the forest for the trees. When people complain about "woke", 'DEI" stuff, "Sweetbaby", ALL of that comes from far right conspiracy shit and it all is about pushing white supremacy. Sure its culture was BS but to say its not important to be aware off or should be called out isn't the way.
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Also, you know, woke eco-terrorist group Avalanche with DEI hire Barret.
 
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Le Pertti said:
You are missing the forest for the trees. When people complain about "woke", 'DEI" stuff, "Sweetbaby", ALL of that comes from far right conspiracy shit and it all is about pushing white supremacy. Sure its culture was BS but to say its not important to be aware off or should be called out isn't the way.
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I know this, you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not talking about the people who complain about the right wingers and fight with them. I'm saying they add their own nonsense to the pile like when they relentlessly shit up stellar blade topics or kingdom come topics. They hide behind "we're just making sure people know" but it's never really about that, follow the threads long enough and you'll see they're just mad that people want to play the games and they want to at the very least shout them off of the internet and not allow them to talk about it.

That's not just era either it's everywhere. A lot of streamers were harassed and sent awful things because they chose to play hogwarts. Being shitty online is not exclusive to right wingers.

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Also, you know, woke eco-terrorist group Avalanche with DEI hire Barret.
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Ironically the only talk I ever saw online about Barret was from era types after 7R came out thinking he's still a 90s racist stereotype which I have to assume came from people who didn't play the game because he's arguably the best and deepest character in both remakes.
 
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I'll just repost what I said back in June:

Speaking as a non American, the US culture war spreading to videogames has become overwhelming and exhausting. The fact that a game's protagonist being a black man or a curvy lady is enough to send everyone into a toxic frenzy is profoundly stupid. I wish everyone would just shut the fuck up and let us enjoy games the way their creators want to make them.
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The problem isn't that "games have now become political" as some idiots online think. That has always been the case, even as far back as the 80s. The difference between then and now is that gaming has become mainstream and as such yet another battleground for the US culture war, with individual games used as ammunition for that war. I feel reasonably confident in saying that many people who talk about games online in that context don't actually give a shit about gaming and are only there to root for the home team or dunk on the opposition.
 
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Sorry, I shouldn't have gotten dragged in. I generally only speak politics with family and as a rule of thumb leave the subject at the door usually (except JK Rowling. Fuck her).
 
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Knurek said:
Boggles my mind how can they have Fallout 1 above Fallout 2.
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Yeah, but they've always had a soft spot for Fallout 1. I think it's extremely overrated, but I can't be too mad with a list where the other 2 spots in the top 3 are PS:T and Arcanum.
 
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I want to take a moment to mention that without @Steam and hard working people
like @AugustaButlin and @aldenkroll and @tomgvalve
(and many others), small but lucrative games like My Lovely Empress from
places like South East Asia would not exist.

We launched on multiple platforms but despite being hands off, Steam
absolutely dominates in sales. Why? Because Steam gives us the tools to
build and manage our own communities (let's pretend the recent rules on
linking didn't happen :) ) Developers and Publishers DO NOT NEED to be
babysat by platforms, we need to be given the tools to make our own success.
A platform is something we stand on and Steam is the absolute stellar example
of how even in a year of deep industry turmoil and difficult choices, success is possible.
 
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