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I got a feeling you don't have to worry about Alan Wake 2 being financially successful in any way.
Rub it in, why don't you
But realistically, it's a small miracle we got a sequel in the first place. I get people not liking EGS, but there is zero chance anyone else would have touched this IP. Remedy was pitching this for a decade with no success. If it wasn't for Tim Epic, there'd be no Alan Wake 2, so worrying about it setting a bad example feels so silly. It might sell on consoles, it surely won't on PC because EGS. So ironically, if Epic continues to fund and publish games, it might even lead to them releasing on Steam, since -- surprise -- games sell there.
The way the Epic Games Store and Xbox App are handled reminds me of this segment from a Defunctland video
Functionally, improving their clients will not directly bring in revenue. And since I doubt either service actually generates much revenue in the first place, they likely don't have wiggle room to spend lots on improving their clients without upsetting shareholders.
Functionally, improving their clients will not directly bring in revenue. And since I doubt either service actually generates much revenue in the first place, they likely don't have wiggle room to spend lots on improving their clients without upsetting shareholders.
Oh wow, DigiPen uni students are still putting out really cool looking demos. Noice.
yup, pretty much everything they put out is really good, and completely free!
At first I thought not another splatoon clone but it totally isn't. Puzzle bobble systems in a cooperative shooter, cool. I take it there's only a couple colors each player can utilize rather than clumsily switch between more of them so you focus on your colors each when tackling enemies and their attack patterns or something. Either way, hopefully it's as well implemented as it seems, it looks really cool.
Yeah I love Alan Wake 1 despite it's flaws. I love the atmosphere of Bright Falls and it's one of my favorite videogame locations/settings. But yeah I'm just being realistic about Alan Wakes chances. It's going to get destroyed by all the other major releases coming out this October.Rub it in, why don't you
But realistically, it's a small miracle we got a sequel in the first place. I get people not liking EGS, but there is zero chance anyone else would have touched this IP. Remedy was pitching this for a decade with no success. If it wasn't for Tim Epic, there'd be no Alan Wake 2, so worrying about it setting a bad example feels so silly. It might sell on consoles, it surely won't on PC because EGS. So ironically, if Epic continues to fund and publish games, it might even lead to them releasing on Steam, since -- surprise -- games sell there.
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I don't recommend you to stream it on Japan if you don't want to end up in prison XD
People are going on and on about how Epic has rescued Alan Wake from the grave because no one else was willing to publish it. Well, there's a reason no one else was willing to pay for it. And there's a reason Epic is doing it, and it is most certainly not because this is good business. Everyone and their dog knows they are going to lose money on this venture. This is just another marketshare play for them. And if you're thinking, "Well, I don't like it when they pay off devs/publishers for timed exclusivity but I'm okay with permanent exclusivity if they pay for the whole thing", my question is... do you think they will always just publish games that had no chance otherwise?
As a reminder, they paid 140 million dollars for Borderlands 3 exclusivity. Imagine which games they could snag 'as a publisher' if they decided to put that kind of money into the publishing business. Outside of the Starfields and the GTAs that kind of money would fund pretty much any AAA game out there. So what if the next Metro game is permanently exclusive to EGS because they're now the publisher? Or Stalker 2? What if they get into agreements with bigger publishers to 'co-fund' the game in exchange for being the PC publisher? What about the indies they could get? What if they decide to become the publisher of Silksong and make it permanently EGS exclusive? Or the next Supergiant game or whatever else they want?
How will you feel when games that would release on PC anyway now become permanently locked on EGS because they decided that paying money to keep games away from Steam as a 'publisher' is more palatable to audiences than when it's called a moneyhat or a bribe?
As a reminder, they paid 140 million dollars for Borderlands 3 exclusivity. Imagine which games they could snag 'as a publisher' if they decided to put that kind of money into the publishing business. Outside of the Starfields and the GTAs that kind of money would fund pretty much any AAA game out there. So what if the next Metro game is permanently exclusive to EGS because they're now the publisher? Or Stalker 2? What if they get into agreements with bigger publishers to 'co-fund' the game in exchange for being the PC publisher? What about the indies they could get? What if they decide to become the publisher of Silksong and make it permanently EGS exclusive? Or the next Supergiant game or whatever else they want?
How will you feel when games that would release on PC anyway now become permanently locked on EGS because they decided that paying money to keep games away from Steam as a 'publisher' is more palatable to audiences than when it's called a moneyhat or a bribe?
Very well said m8.
I know it's not fair towards AW fans for wishing that the sequel won't be successful. But the consequences of Epic's publishing label to succeed may be a lot bigger than the 1 year exclusives.
It's already worrying how a huge majority of devs are dropping their engine and online service for unreal engine and EOS.
There's no need to wish for AW2 to not be successful.
Save your wishes, it'll happen without them.
Save your wishes, it'll happen without them.
Are you all sure? Now that Alone in the Dark is being pushed to 2024 I see a vacuum of millions of gamers putting their money into AW2
Ah shit, I forgot about that juggernaut moving away.
Pool all your wishes together.
Pool all your wishes together.
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Requiem: Avenging Angel
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Epic does not have endless money, they are a business and want to make money. It's getting clearer and clearer that their year-long exclusives aren't paying off, and they are trying something else. Spending hundreds of millions to fund large-scale AAA games, and then cutting out the PC sales to only release them on their wasteland of a store is not a smart business choice, even less so than the exclusivity before. You don't need to worry about a future where this continues, it will just increase the bleeding of money, because not releasing on Steam is always going to be bad business.
I also find these hypotheticals very silly. Remedy has said that they kept the IP to Alan Wake, and even if EGS has a contract that gives them literally permanent exclusivity rights, what if Remedy makes a "remaster" in the future, and then puts that one on Steam? If you own the IP, you can make new games, even if they are technically the same one. I expect Alan Wake 2 to be on Steam one day, hell, Epic will probably be fine with it, since they will earn money from it.
And I'm sorry, it's not a bribe or a moneyhat. They were willing to risk money to make this and I don't care what stupid ploys Tim Epic has in mind. The EGS is no threat to Steam. It's a joke and Epic is a massive joke if they think they will ever have a foothold in this market if they don't start offering a better product than Steam.
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It's obvious that Tim's hate boner against Valve has a huge impact on their business decisions. AW remastered is still not on Steam, despite bombing on EGS and despite the fact that the sequel is coming soon. Exposing the remaster to as many people as possible before releasing AW2 would make perfectly sense from a business point of view, but here we are.
Looking at their recently announced "first run" program, it's very clear that Epic is still focusing on exclusivity, and that they are willing to loose tons of money in the process. No, publishing AW2 is no money hat. But it still contributes towards Epic's goal to disrupt other storefronts that are actually competing.
Of course, they won't beat Steam using their current strategy. But it's extremely annoying for many PC gamers, and it may have a significant impact on what healthy competition on PC looks like in the future. I'd rather not see that happen.
It's exactly that "first run" program that shows to me how they are running on fumes. If devs (and customers) weren't interested in EGS before, with lengthy exclusives, why would anyone care now that they are (clearly) not offering as much money for shorter periods, nor for customers having to wait as much.
If this is their attempt at disruption, it's pretty laughable.
I fail to see the threat here, honestly. The only bad thing is that I have to give Epic some of my money to experience Alan Wake 2, but if that's the only way of getting it on PC, then that's still better than the game not existing.
Epic is not a threat to Steam based on everything we know and their First Run program is good evidence of that.
I still to this day think Elden Ring not also having released on EGS day 1 started the downfall of EGS.
I still to this day think Elden Ring not also having released on EGS day 1 started the downfall of EGS.
In retrospect I'm a little surprised at how many positive reviews there are for Jedi Survivor, having finished the main story myself. A lot of them suggest that if you get past the performance issues, it's a great game that improves on the first but like... combat is worse, platforming is worse (there are platform sections that are just seemingly random whether it recognizes you doing the thing or not), and the change to more exploration is nice for people who like it like me but given the other 2 issues (platforming and combat being worse), it ends up just not feeling great.
There were some fun moments but almost all were early on in the game, everything just got tedious and poorly designed the farther you went. I'm surprised people willing to push past all the performance issues weren't harsher on how it's a degrade in most gameplay.
There were some fun moments but almost all were early on in the game, everything just got tedious and poorly designed the farther you went. I'm surprised people willing to push past all the performance issues weren't harsher on how it's a degrade in most gameplay.
Elden Ring, and like 80% of other major game releases. Baldur's Gate 3! Resident Evil 4 Remake! Persona 5!
I'm surprised there seem to be more games doing releases on EGS, though. I wonder if Epic pays people just to put their game on there at all?
Capcom (Monster Hunter, Resident Evil, and a bit of Anime)
Bandai Namco (Elden Ring, Mechas and more Anime)
Larian (Baldur's Gate)
The holy trinity of the EGS downfall. Maybe there was a chance before but no fortnite money can recover from this triple punch
Didn't we find out Epic paid CD Project to put Cyberpunk on EGS or am I imagining things?
So grain of salt because I forgot to turn on the FPS counter before launching Jedi Survivor (since they don't have an in-game one), but tried the new patch and it's largely indistinguishable from before. I tried all High (not highest) settings, RTX off, DLSS at balanced, 4K, and I basically only hit 60fps for a few seconds a couple of times when I was mostly just staring at a wall (it's REALLY obvious when it was nailing the 60fps). Most of the time it was bouncing up and down a ton, and turning the camera is still god awful (I did see someone post that's because of the in-game Vsync and to use external limiting instead but I didn't try that yet).
This is with a 4090 and Ryzen 5600X, NVME SSD, and I forget the make of the RAM but it isn't some knock off. It didn't crash in the 5 minutes I was running around so I guess that's something? But it only crashed for me a couple times over my whole main quest playthrough anyway, I was one of the lucky ones there.
It's just a baffling fall from the first game
This is with a 4090 and Ryzen 5600X, NVME SSD, and I forget the make of the RAM but it isn't some knock off. It didn't crash in the 5 minutes I was running around so I guess that's something? But it only crashed for me a couple times over my whole main quest playthrough anyway, I was one of the lucky ones there.
It's just a baffling fall from the first game
I'm just realizing that almost all Bamco games are blocked in Venezuela now for some fucking reason. No Armored Core, No Klonoa, No Tales of Arise. Hell, last year I bought Elden Ring with no problem and now is blocked too. WTF is going on?!
It's nice to see yet another mobile game studio open a pc/console publishing arm.
Takes those gacha money and make non gacha games.
I think EGS downfall started with Bungie announcing that Destiny 2 was migrating from Battle.net to Steam. Epic probably offered a lot of money to Bungie for exclusivity since it would have brought a huge user base to the platform that would have used EGS on a daily basis to play the game.
What is that EGS thing people are talking about? Is a new game coming to Steam?
We've talked about EGS more in a day here than everywhere else has in an entire year.
This always happens when a high profile exclusive releases, and AW2 is high-enough profile for many people here. Sequel to a cult classic by a studio that is respected for the quality of their games, but still manage to baffle people by the stupid deals they sign.
Add to that, AW2 is probably a lot longer than the usual 6-12 months, due to it being published by Epic.
I've decided to just ignore EGS. I don't even collect the free games anymore. If there's a game I want, I'll just play it on a platform I'm willing to spend money on. Right now that's just Steam, but I'm not opposed to having a console at some point if there's enough games I want to play.
I am not sure anyone is "baffled" that Remedy agreed to have it published by Epic. They likely pitched this to every publisher under the sun. It's not a "stupid deal". It's either AW2 existing or it never being funded. Can we at least try have a bit of nuance when talking about things.
You have to wonder why Remedy needs the deal though...
It's an established studio with decent hits at least from a commercial pov, as I said before I don't think they made a single good game after MP2 but that's beside the point, so how come they aren't able to self sustain much more than they seemingly can? How come they are so dependent of handouts from MST or Epic or any other big name? What kind of cash burning culture and poor management is going on in there? It doesn't seem normal that a studio as mature and renowned as they are needs to jump from lifeline to lifeline with each release they do.
AW2 is for me a sequel to one of my favorite games of all time. Does it suck that it is exclusive to EGS for the forseeable future? Yes. Yet it is apparently a sacrifice the universe made in order to bring the game to existence.
On brighter news, I finally got the owlbear cub in Baldurs Gate 3!
Ready to move on to Act 2
Up until Control, they also haven't had much commercial success, so I think that's the main issue here, combined with their pretty high production qualities. I hope Control establishes itself as a successful franchise, and that Alan Wake 2 can make some money, though yeah, it's a long shot.
Ready to move on to Act 2
No clue, gaming is a hard business. I will say that it's impressive how technologically cutting-edge their releases tend to be, it's no surprise that Remedy had one of the first games with really impressive ray tracing.
Up until Control, they also haven't had much commercial success, so I think that's the main issue here, combined with their pretty high production qualities. I hope Control establishes itself as a successful franchise, and that Alan Wake 2 can make some money, though yeah, it's a long shot.
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