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[madjoki]

Remedy Entertainment Plc: Remedy announces sales information for Alan Wake 2 - Remedy Investors

Remedy Entertainment Plc Stock Exchange Release February 16, 2024 […]

investors.remedygames.com

Alan Wake 2 sold 1 million at the end of December and 1.3 million at the beginning of February (all platforms). EGS is probably 1/3 of that total.

About 400k on Epic.

 

[C-Dub]

Do we really know it’s 1/3 on Epic? It could be a lot less.

And if it’s 1/3, how many of those are full price versus discounted?

 

[Arc]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/news/epic-games-store-2023-year-in-review

75 million MAU
Total revenue $950 million
Third party revenue $310 million

Those third party numbers are DISASTROUS.

 

[Ge0force]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/news/epic-games-store-2023-year-in-review

75 million MAU
Total revenue $950 million
Third party revenue $310 million

Those third party numbers are DISASTROUS.

Lol @ decrease in 3rd party sales. Bold decision to publish these numbers tho.

Do we really know it’s 1/3 on Epic? It could be a lot less.

Weren't console sales estimated at 880k in december?

 

[Arc]

Lol @ decrease in 3rd party sales. Bold decision to publish these numbers tho.

I give them props for publishing them but, good lord they are not pretty. You had mega hits like Hogwarts Legacy, Honkai Star Rail and EA Sports FC and you can only do that?

Also Tim Sweeney straight up lied about EGS having 80 million MAU lol.

 

[curi0usBystander]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/news/epic-games-store-2023-year-in-review

75 million MAU
Total revenue $950 million
Third party revenue $310 million

Those third party numbers are DISASTROUS.

Weren't you convinced that it would go up .

All joking aside, i don't really know how they calculate the top titles (since it says money+engagement) but it doesn't look like games move that many units.

 

[Arc]

Weren't you convinced that it would go up .

All joking aside, i don't really know how they calculate the top titles (since it says money+engagement) but it doesn't look like games move that many units.

I was only off by $165 million, but not in the direction I was expecting.

Also if Alan Wake 2 did ~400k on EGS and it's in the second highest tier, yeesh.

Edit: Those third party revenue numbers are also after having an effective 40% discount for nearly a month as well. I'm flabbergasted at how bad they are.

 

[fantomena]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/news/epic-games-store-2023-year-in-review

75 million MAU
Total revenue $950 million
Third party revenue $310 million

Those third party numbers are DISASTROUS.

lol

that's all

 

[Arsene]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/news/epic-games-store-2023-year-in-review

75 million MAU
Total revenue $950 million
Third party revenue $310 million

Those third party numbers are DISASTROUS.

First party is higher because of Fortnite OG + the launch of Lego Fortnite, Festival and Rocket Racing.

Hogwarts being on a lower revenue tier than Dead Island 2 despite being the highest selling game of 2023 really tells the whole story on third party though

 

[curi0usBystander]

I wanted to make a joke about KH sales but I guess, like SE, I forgot it exists on PC. I keep remembering that because it launched the same year as FF7R and the latter charted despite launching in december.

 

[Mor]

I was only off by $165 million, but not in the direction I was expecting.

Also if Alan Wake 2 did ~400k on EGS and it's in the second highest tier, yeesh.

Edit: Those third party revenue numbers are also after having an effective 40% discount for nearly a month as well. I'm flabbergasted at how bad they are.

It is around 400k yes

 

[STHX]

Almost 2 months of aggressive sales an coupons, and 3rd party spending is worse than last year. Also the 2nd tier hovers at 400k sales considering AW2 is there and it did that much on the EGS. Also less free games were claimed in total ocmpared to last year
But for me, the funniest part is the slide about games coming in 2024: by Steam numbers the best selling ones so far are Palworld, Helldivers 2, Granblue, Persona and Like a Dragon, and not a single one of them is coming to the EGS

 

[ExistentialThought]

I cannot get over those awful 3rd party revenue results. There are only more and more games simultaneously shipping on the platform and a larger catalog to select from and yet their 3rd party revenue goes down. How is that even possible... That means there is even less money circulating around on more games with more users who apparently spend less.

And their solution seems to pad the number through coupons and giveaways which only convinces folks to spend less. If you are not a larger publisher or developer, there is likely no reason to release on EGS based on their trending. Heck, you would be better to wait until Epic contacts you to release your game for free game giveaway and ask for a larger upfront payment.

Even those Fortnite numbers are lukewarm because they indicate the game has mostly stagnated in revenue with no crazy growth despite Epic spending more to develop modes and fund their Roblox-like service. That relative stagnation is definitely the reason they laid a bunch of folks off as they likely misjudged Fortnite's continued growth and why their valuation has now fallen.

If I was an employee, but especially a laid off employee, I would be seriously questioning why the company is willing to waste money on the CEO's pet project and costing me and my peers their jobs to cover its losses.

 

[Stone Ocean]

EGS, the one store on the industry that will put the words "MAU up, third party revenue down, total free games claimed down" on the same year in review graph and go yep that sure makes sense yep yep yep

 

[Mivey]

EGS, the one store on the industry that will put the words "MAU up, third party revenue down, total free games claimed down" on the same year in review graph and go yep that sure makes sense yep yep yep

They are only showing MAU for December, and the plus is over the previous month, I believe. Thus we have no idea how user activity was over the course of the entire year. Compare and contrast that with Steam that publishes user activity numbers for every day even. (though be fair, MAU numbers for Steam are not frequently posted, but would dwarf EGS anyway)

 

[Arc]

EGS, the one store on the industry that will put the words "MAU up, third party revenue down, total free games claimed down" on the same year in review graph and go yep that sure makes sense yep yep yep

To me that says a ton of people came back for Fortnite and didn't bother with anything else in the store. As Arsene said, Fortnite OG and Chapter 5 saved their butts. Things would be a lot more dire if it hadn't popped off again.

Edit:

They are only showing MAU for December, and the plus is over the previous month, I believe. Thus we have no idea how user activity was over the course of the entire year. Compare and contrast that with Steam that publishes user activity numbers for every day even. (though be fair, MAU numbers for Steam are not frequently posted, but would dwarf EGS anyway)

For what it's worth, Fortnite peaked in December so I would assume the December 2023 numbers are the highest EGS got the whole year.

 

[Arsene]

Oh also Tim Sweeney mentioned in his post lawsuit interview in December that EGS was at 80m MAU, so either he was lying (again) or their MAU went down in December despite the launch of LEGO/Festival/Racing in Fortnite

Epic CEO Tim Sweeney: the post-trial interview

What he learned, why he attended, and what’s next.

www.theverge.com

EGS, the one store on the industry that will put the words "MAU up, third party revenue down, total free games claimed down" on the same year in review graph and go yep that sure makes sense yep yep yep

I completely missed that free game claims were down by 114m lmfao

 

[Lashley]

You love to see it.

 

[Stone Ocean]

To me that says a ton of people came back for Fortnite and didn't bother with anything else in the store. As Arsene said, Fortnite OG and Chapter 5 saved their butts. Things would be a lot more dire if it hadn't popped off again.

I completely missed that free game claims were down by 114m lmfao

Yeah, people are starting to not even bother claiming the free stuff

 

[C-Dub]

The death of the free games is definitely a sign of terminal decline.

 

[Parsnip]

Third party spending down from the already absolutely pathetic display of previous year is a yikes from me dawg.

You love to see it.

 

[Ascheroth]

Good on them for actually publishing this, because sheeesh.
Third party spending down in 2023 of all years? Seriously I have no idea how this project is supposed to ever become profitable.

 

[Mivey]

Good on them for actually publishing this, because sheeesh.
Third party spending down in 2023 of all years? Seriously I have no idea how this project is supposed to ever become profitable.

Mere profitability? Please, his Lord Tim Epic has higher goals than that. He wants a majority of all revenue of PC Gaming in his store, how else should he save gamerdom from GabeNs cruel tyranny?! Sure, these first six years have shown little progress, and so far it is a massive money sink that is perhaps even risking his companies overall finances. But once he just found the right exclusive game for the EGS, all his fortunes will reverse and EGS will wear its long deserved crown as the biggest PC platform of all time. Just a couple hundred million more dollars that need to be burned, I mean invested into this grand project

 

[Paul]

ngl, that third party spend is one of the more hilarious things I have seen today

1.15 dollar per user per year, great job Tim

 

[yuraya]

Honestly the only time I even thought about that store all of last year was when people here brought up Alan Wake 2 and Dead Island 2.

They have to do something big to differentiate themselves from Steam. Like some type of subscription thing or wtvr.

GOG and Gamepass kinda has that thing. Epic doesn't. I just don't see the point of the store if you are not a frequent Fortnite player.

 

[Vantr]

3rd party revenue is hilarious.

I would also like to say Palworld probably generated close to that much by itself in just one month. Great work Pocketpair.

 

[Ge0force]

Games journalists never stop to amaze me:

"Epic Games’ PC storefront is fast becoming the most popular place to buy and play games on the platform. It’s rivalling Steam – Valve’s legendary launcher and storefront"

PC Gamers Spent $1 Billion On The Epic Store in 2023

In Epic Games' year in review report, it was revealed that PC gamers spent a whopping $1 billion on the platform in 2023.

insider-gaming.com

In reality, a single indie game (Palworld) gets more revenue on Steam in 2 weeks than all 3rd party games on EGS in a full year...

 

[C-Dub]

Games journalists never stop to amaze me:

"Epic Games’ PC storefront is fast becoming the most popular place to buy and play games on the platform. It’s rivalling Steam – Valve’s legendary launcher and storefront"

PC Gamers Spent $1 Billion On The Epic Store in 2023

In Epic Games' year in review report, it was revealed that PC gamers spent a whopping $1 billion on the platform in 2023.

insider-gaming.com

In reality, a single indie game (Palworld) gets more revenue on Steam in 2 weeks than all 3rd party games on EGS in a full year...

I reckon it’s one of two (or a mixture of both) things:

1) An AI drafted it. They’re known for stupid hyperbole like that.

2) Provocative lines are put in articles to encourage engagement.

Games journalism is a sewer. Never forget this.

 

[Dandy]

I reckon it’s one of two (or a mixture of both) things:

1) An AI drafted it. They’re known for stupid hyperbole like that.

2) Provocative lines are put in articles to encourage engagement.

Games journalism is a sewer. Never forget this.

My first instinct was that this ~200 word "article" was AI generated. Certainly no one with an ounce of critical thinking wrote it.

 

[Arc]

I wonder how Skull and Bones is doing. It's the #1 seller on EGS right now, but that doesn't mean much. It's #27 on the most played chart and is below Destiny 2 which is doing about 21.4k daily users right now based on the tracking site Warmind. I doubt it's doing very well to be honest.

FWIW, I think S&B is struggling on console. It is only #7 on the US PSN chart while Helldivers 2 is #1. Even Suicide Squad launched at #3. Xbox numbers are always delayed several days so there's no information available right now.

Realistically we'll have to wait for Ubi's next financial report to get a better idea how it's doing, but for a AAAA game, I'm underwhelmed.

 

[CommodoreKong]

Yeah I'm sure Skull and Bones bombed and Ubisoft would have cancelled it years ago if they could have but because they had gotten government subsides for the game/studio they had to release it.

 

[prudis]

Ubisoft really was going to drop EGS until First Run was announced.

Also today's free game is Melvor Idle.

the "firs run" program is kinda glorious ... especially with Ubi being there with the gems

 

[Mivey]

the "firs run" program is kinda glorious ... especially with Ubi being there with the gems

Not sure Avatar can compete with such hits as "I'm in Love with your Dead Grandmother" and "My Demon Wife". The EGS crowd sure is a discerning bunch, only top-notch necrophiliac erotic games, selected by Tim Sweeney himself.

 

[Durante]

Remember, the great thing about EGS is that all the games are carefully curated.

The Epic team of curation experts selected hits such as "The Chosen One by the World" and "Party Monsterzz" from the vast swathe of titles eager to be on EGS so that you don't have to sift through thousands of games to get to the good stuff.

 

[STHX]

the "firs run" program is kinda glorious ... especially with Ubi being there with the gems

 

[madjoki]

Epic's EU Mau went up 14.7m -> 17.7m

Regulatory Disclosure Requirement - Monthly Active Users in the EU (Updated February 16, 2024)

The estimated average monthly active recipients in the European Union of the Epic Games Store for the past six months was 17.7 million.

The estimated average monthly active recipients in the European Union of the Epic Developer Community for the past six months was 417,000.

The estimated average monthly active recipients in the European Union of Fab Marketplace for the past six months was 4,700.

Users who accessed more than one of Epic’s services or products in a given month are counted as a user for each service or product.


Previous:

Regulatory Disclosure Requirement - Monthly Active Users in the EU (Updated August 17, 2023)

The estimated average monthly active recipients in the European Union of the Epic Games Store for the past six months was 14.7 million*. *This number is based on updated measurement methodology that more accurately counts EGS visitors that aren’t logged in. This change resulted in a decrease in reported MAU count on EGS.

The estimated average monthly active recipients in the European Union of the Epic Developer Community for the past six months was 256,000.


Regulatory Disclosure Requirement - Monthly Active Users in the EU (Updated February 17, 2023)

The estimated average monthly active recipients in the European Union of the Epic Games Store for the past six months was 21.3 million. The estimated average monthly active recipients in the European Union of the Epic Developer Community for the past six months was 503,000.

 

[Arc]

https://www.fortnite.com/eula

Fortnite went from 16.4 million to 22.6 million.

The Fall Guys End User License Agreement - EULA

Please read the Fall Guys End User License Agreement. This legal document explains your rights and obligations related to your use of the Software.

fallguys.com

Fall Guys went from 3.9 million to 2.9 million.

Last I checked (about 6 hours ago), Valve still hasn't updated the Steam number. Here's the link if anyone in the EU wants to check as I'm too lazy to hop on a VPN right now.

 

[Alexandros]

https://www.fortnite.com/eula

Fortnite went from 16.4 million to 22.6 million.

The Fall Guys End User License Agreement - EULA

Please read the Fall Guys End User License Agreement. This legal document explains your rights and obligations related to your use of the Software.

fallguys.com

Fall Guys went from 3.9 million to 2.9 million.

Last I checked (about 6 hours ago), Valve still hasn't updated the Steam number. Here's the link if anyone in the EU wants to check as I'm too lazy to hop on a VPN right now.

I just checked, the last number is from July. Is there any way we can see those numbers for PSN and Xbox live?

 

[curi0usBystander]

I just checked, the last number is from July. Is there any way we can see those numbers for PSN and Xbox live?

Information on Average Monthly Active Recipients of Service in the European Union - Microsoft Support

Information on average monthly active recipients of service in the European Union in accordance with the EU Digital Services Act

support.microsoft.com

 

[Arc]

Last I checked (about 6 hours ago), Valve still hasn't updated the Steam number. Here's the link if anyone in the EU wants to check as I'm too lazy to hop on a VPN right now.

It finally updated.

26.3 million -> 26.0 million.

I'm starting to get why Valve is being so coy about not giving MAU numbers. I'm guessing growth is relatively flat overall.

Also Skull and Bones debuted at 26th on the Xbox charts. It's up to 25th on the EGS most played charts. It's probably a flop, especially with Helldivers 2 taking all the attention for live service games lately.

 

[Mor]

It finally updated.

26.3 million -> 26.0 million.

I'm starting to get why Valve is being so coy about not giving MAU numbers. I'm guessing growth is relatively flat overall.

Yeah, it feels stagnant for 2023, while consumerism and revenue grew, number of active users didn't change that much. Not unexpected IMHO.

 

[Arc]

I remember one of the UnrealFest sessions where Epic was expecting EGS to go from 68M to 69-70M in 2023 so they would have done similar had Fortnite not exploded again. I still wish Valve had gave an update for 2022 when it looked like there was still big growth. I know they went from ~27 million to ~31 million CCU in 2022 which should have tied to a healthy MAU increase.

 

[Jav]

Fellas is Steam dead?

 

[PC-tan]

The Nintendo show case has some cool stuff also





I wonder if they will delist the current ones and if this is why the OG ones got online servers up and running again years ago
Dang it wrong thread. No wonder I did see ang other post talking about this.

 

[Arc]

World of Goo 2

worldofgoo2.com

I think World of Goo 2 is EGS exclusive. Only Switch and Epic are mentioned on their site.

 

[Deku]

World of Goo 2

worldofgoo2.com

I think World of Goo 2 is EGS exclusive. Only Switch and Epic are mentioned on their site.

If I remember correctly they released a new update for World of Goo years later after release that is exclusive in EGS

 

[Mor]

The Nintendo show case has some cool stuff also





I wonder if they will delist the current ones and if this is why the OG ones got online servers up and running again years ago
Dang it wrong thread. No wonder I did see ang other post talking about this.

Wrong thread, yes

 

[madjoki]

If I remember correctly they released a new update for World of Goo years later after release that is exclusive in EGS

I think it was days rather than years (or even months).

 

[STHX]

World of Goo 2

worldofgoo2.com

I think World of Goo 2 is EGS exclusive. Only Switch and Epic are mentioned on their site.

Makes sense. A sequel to a very old succesful indie game feels like an easy get. Of course we know how these sequels ended up doing

 

[C-Dub]

Steam and Humble Bundle helped make World of Goo famous so, you know, the strategy for the sequel is “don’t do that” for some reason.