I mean it's better than the lowest common denominator of next gen titles, if not both in real-world performance, so that's not too bad.
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I mean it's better than the lowest common denominator of next gen titles, if not both in real-world performance, so that's not too bad.
One way to look at it is that the 2070 Super, which is a mid-gen refresh of an architecture originally released in 2018, is roughly as fast as the consoles releasing towards the end of 2020.
Finished Ori. Great game. Level design is great. Soundtrack beautiful and the game just flows very nicely. Thankfully had no issues with the UWP version.
Can recommend.
Except the part where some orb that is on the map but not in the level keeps me from 100%
Can recommend.
Except the part where some orb that is on the map but not in the level keeps me from 100%
Yep and the first year of these consoles won't see anything mindblowing or too impressive. Devs are gonna need a lot of time to take advantage of all this game changing SSD stuff. I don't imagine many big pubs/devs are in a rush to change game design or the way they make games to begin with.
So if you own a 20xx series card right now you are probably good for another 2 years. And that is assuming you care about the newest popular AAA games that come out every year.
I'll likely hold off before picking up a PS5, unlike past iterations.
I seriously need to upgrade my PC, so that money is better spent there.
I seriously need to upgrade my PC, so that money is better spent there.
So guys, I am on a trip of memory lane and I remember how I havent been able to find one of the original games i played. I only remember:
-Action adventure platformer DOS (or maybe super early windows?) game. It was quite intriquent with movement of the screen on all directions
-Guy had a sword and the mc was not a big sprite (basically, he didnt aoccupy a ton of the screen).
-Somewhat of a futuristic scenery in later levels with glass and stuff?
It is hard to remember anthing more so thanks to anyone that tries to help!
-Action adventure platformer DOS (or maybe super early windows?) game. It was quite intriquent with movement of the screen on all directions
-Guy had a sword and the mc was not a big sprite (basically, he didnt aoccupy a ton of the screen).
-Somewhat of a futuristic scenery in later levels with glass and stuff?
It is hard to remember anthing more so thanks to anyone that tries to help!
Reseteras thread about finding forgotten game titles is called "Games you remember, names you don't." It's pretty active and successful.
Do you remember colors / visuals? Can't think of anything mainstream with the sword part - but that still describes a lot of games.
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Anyone know which version of Blood is better? Is Fresh Supply good or is BloodGDX still the best one?
I've been doing the exact same thing. The upside is that with the warm weather and staying off the internet, my garden is looking great.
Surge 2 coming to PC gamepass soon 
Weird to see devs put it on gamepass b4 putting it in Humble choice. I guess they are making even less $$$ via Humble choice than gamepass so that is last resort.
I played Surge 1 on Origin and now 2 will be on gamepass. No SteamSurge feelsbadman.
Speaking of gamepass I'm now 7hrs into Will of the Wisps and what an amazing game. Almost feels perfect except the navigation is brutal on your memory so I am constantly clicking on the map to see where I am going. I don't remember if it was like that with Blind Forest but yea the map in this one is massive. For the next game they need to make some type of non-pause map on screen feature.
Also that western water section
so fucking good.
Weird to see devs put it on gamepass b4 putting it in Humble choice. I guess they are making even less $$$ via Humble choice than gamepass so that is last resort.
I played Surge 1 on Origin and now 2 will be on gamepass. No SteamSurge feelsbadman.
Speaking of gamepass I'm now 7hrs into Will of the Wisps and what an amazing game. Almost feels perfect except the navigation is brutal on your memory so I am constantly clicking on the map to see where I am going. I don't remember if it was like that with Blind Forest but yea the map in this one is massive. For the next game they need to make some type of non-pause map on screen feature.
Also that western water section
so fucking good.
The problem that the SSD becoming commonplace really brings up to me is games budget.
If you go from having, say, 50mb/s of throughput to three orders of magnitudes that, then it stands to reason that your asset budget is going to go through the roof, at least to some extent on top of the increase in fidelity that a new system enables. We are already at a point where the vaguely not-too-complicated juggernaut TPS takes 5 to 8 years to develop.
As much as I relish the creative freedom and much-improved hardware baseline this generation provides, I can't shake the sense of uneasiness I get while thinking on the explosion of asset quantity and fidelity.
If you go from having, say, 50mb/s of throughput to three orders of magnitudes that, then it stands to reason that your asset budget is going to go through the roof, at least to some extent on top of the increase in fidelity that a new system enables. We are already at a point where the vaguely not-too-complicated juggernaut TPS takes 5 to 8 years to develop.
As much as I relish the creative freedom and much-improved hardware baseline this generation provides, I can't shake the sense of uneasiness I get while thinking on the explosion of asset quantity and fidelity.
Assets are already more often than not created higher res/higher complexity than systems can handle and downscaled to fit, either as is for things like textures or with various techniques like normal mapping, displacement mapping, whatever when it comes to the geometry, I don't think it's gonna be a vast change outside not having to reduce them to match. I think SSD will have the least impact compared to the rest specs bump. Storage & Ram are still limited.
It was already kind of the same between the last and this generation, thanks to techniques like normal mapping artists have been creating the original assets to any complexity they want, then they had to create a low end model on top and then appropriately map the high end one over it which meant they also had to mind how they create that high end one in the first place as certain details are more suited for actual geometry etc. Better specs are more freeing.
Similar to things like ray tracing which, when universally used (ie, no RT off mode once all modern hardware can handle it), can free them from having to hand place all kinds of lights and shadows to get the right look vs just letting it do the calculations from the real light sources (and still working to adjust those for the right look they're going for). Like moving from baked shadows to real time lighting in the past meant they no longer needed to paint the shadows on a level (or if using baked lighting for performance reasons still having newer tools able to calculate and bake them automatically, not asking the texture artists to do it) etc.
I suppose you could have a next generation of mega textures that can look super sharp and still have every cm of a game unique but developers already voted against that and even idtech went back to good old tiled textures so if workflow/tools/storage can't adjust to match a tech's potential it just won't be used.
It was already kind of the same between the last and this generation, thanks to techniques like normal mapping artists have been creating the original assets to any complexity they want, then they had to create a low end model on top and then appropriately map the high end one over it which meant they also had to mind how they create that high end one in the first place as certain details are more suited for actual geometry etc. Better specs are more freeing.
Similar to things like ray tracing which, when universally used (ie, no RT off mode once all modern hardware can handle it), can free them from having to hand place all kinds of lights and shadows to get the right look vs just letting it do the calculations from the real light sources (and still working to adjust those for the right look they're going for). Like moving from baked shadows to real time lighting in the past meant they no longer needed to paint the shadows on a level (or if using baked lighting for performance reasons still having newer tools able to calculate and bake them automatically, not asking the texture artists to do it) etc.
I suppose you could have a next generation of mega textures that can look super sharp and still have every cm of a game unique but developers already voted against that and even idtech went back to good old tiled textures so if workflow/tools/storage can't adjust to match a tech's potential it just won't be used.
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I don't think it's going to affect game development much at all. They have 16GB of RAM they can fill. If they keep swapping assets in & out you'll only be able to install a single game on your PS4. Plus that's a game that wouldn't port well to X1X (because they can't sacrifice the entire CPU during gameplay to load assets.
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My currency is being destroyed due to coronavirus, parts are getting even more pricey.
The future of my PC upgrade is grim.
The future of my PC upgrade is grim.
You can also overclock it (silicon lottery permitting).
I still haven't caved in on Doom. Same old 'I would prefer it on steam but it's easily 20 euros more than grey market Beth keys'.
But now is not the time for that, now is the time for the questions that matter ! I'm not sure about which difficulty to choose
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It's a cockatiel but it will have to do in place of a chicken
Doom 2016 was relatively easy and I completed it on hard I think, but this one seems harder. Or maybe it's just the PCGamer reviewer being over-dramatic. Would be a first ! Dare I say, unprecedented
But now is not the time for that, now is the time for the questions that matter ! I'm not sure about which difficulty to choose
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It's a cockatiel but it will have to do in place of a chicken
Doom 2016 was relatively easy and I completed it on hard I think, but this one seems harder. Or maybe it's just the PCGamer reviewer being over-dramatic. Would be a first ! Dare I say, unprecedented
I've downloaded like 5 games from this game festival. Looking forward to playing them later this evening.
Steam now shows if a product was refunded in reviews:
It's neat, but I think it's already obvious before. If the review is negative with less than 2 hours played, it's most probably already refunded.
PS5 is weaker AND doesn't guarantee back-compat? Not even just PS4 gen can be 100% confirmed?
Garbage.
Ah, Glad to see you posting over here!
Same thoughts exactly. I am happily done with consoles. This gen I bought a PS4 and a Pro, in the end I regret both. Everything I wanted came to PC. None of the 1st-parties really excited me except Gravity Daze but Sony let it die, and really hung SIE J studio to dry this gen. What a waste of talent.
Not to mention they've just about replaced all key personnel with Westerners. And honestly, fuck that. I looked to the brand for strong Japanese presence... but no more.
Nintendo is
still I guess. Tonight at midnight is Animal Crossing, and I've got Friday off. Yay!
Garbage.
Ah, Glad to see you posting over here!
Same thoughts exactly. I am happily done with consoles. This gen I bought a PS4 and a Pro, in the end I regret both. Everything I wanted came to PC. None of the 1st-parties really excited me except Gravity Daze but Sony let it die, and really hung SIE J studio to dry this gen. What a waste of talent.
Not to mention they've just about replaced all key personnel with Westerners. And honestly, fuck that. I looked to the brand for strong Japanese presence... but no more.
Nintendo is
still I guess. Tonight at midnight is Animal Crossing, and I've got Friday off. Yay!
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From what I understand, the SSD is much superior..PS5 is is weaker AND doesn't guarantee back-compat? Not even just PS4 gen can be 100% confirmed?
Garbage.
hi, 4K eye-candy gamer here. (no seriously, I'm the kinda PC gamer ok with 30FPS as long my games are max pretty.) What exactly is a faster SSD gonna do for pushing visual tech further?
Yeah, that's probably the only thing that PS fans can latch into in this war.
It will be an interesting gen for sure. Do people prefer power after all? Or is it games that really matter in the end? XBox or Playstation, who will win in the end (in terms of unit sales)?
It will be an interesting gen for sure. Do people prefer power after all? Or is it games that really matter in the end? XBox or Playstation, who will win in the end (in terms of unit sales)?
First good news I have read in a long time. People in Wuhan are being let to go outside now and stores are opening again.
Historical low for OctoTrav.
Tempted to get it since it'll be probably a while to hit 60% off even though I'm busy with Trails from Zero.
Tempted to get it since it'll be probably a while to hit 60% off even though I'm busy with Trails from Zero.
Bought DOOM Eternal for the Bethesda launcher. I can pre-load DOOM Eternal but i can't find DOOM64 in the games list. Did anyone else buy the game for the Bethesda launcher?
If your favorite plastic box is stronger than competitor then power matter. If your favorite plastic box is weaker than competitor then only games matter. You can already see this happening before and after PS5 spec announcement lol.
But for me, as primarily PC gamer, the only reason I'll get a console is exclusive games and exclusive games only.
I feel like when it comes to the mainstream who only buy a console to play FIFA/NBA/Madden, etc and Fortnite, power would matter a lot.
Nah, with the current exchange rate of US$ to my currency, I wouldn't want to buy anything labeled in $.
For example, even at 75% off, it'll only be a couple of $ cheaper than the current 50% off on Steam in my region.
I completely agree, I'm loving it. I haven't played any BL since pre-sequel came out but still I feel like everything is better. I went into before how much better the worlds were but you are right, just playing it is much better. I also love that it takes itself much more serious but still humorous. Also, I can't remember how the music used to be but the music is genuinely quite good in BL3!
So if xbox gold time converts to ultimate time, then wouldn't the best be to add cheap but long gold time first and then add smallest ultimate time to get cheap game pass for the longest?
I think that’s correct, but it’s worth looking into some more. So, for example, I recall that redeeming a month of regular GP for PC only converted to 20 days if you had GP Ultimate at that moment, because it extends both. I think the same shenanigans apply with Gold.
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